2 or 3 gigs for gaming? YES.

El Wiseguy · 02-01-2007, 03:20 AM

Well, hey everyone. Been away for a while but I'm comin' back! lol I had to get another job so I'm workin' about 54 hours a week right now and I'm just getting used to the new schedule.

Anyways, onto what's goin' on.

Well, my OCZ Platinum 3200 1GB (2x512mb) El Rev.2 (man, that's a mouthful) kit died. Well, specifically one of the modules in the kit died so I had to RMA the whole kid.

So, my experience with OCZ Support was 'ok' at best to begin with... but it did get better. This is what happened:

I sent in my RMA of my Platinum 1GB kit and I had to pay for the shipping as per usual for these deals. I don't hear back for about a week and a half, so I call in and talk to the dude on my case.

He says, "Sorry, we don't carry your ram anymore and since it's the top of the line we don't have anything higher. So how do you feel about having the Gold 3200 El GX XTC 1GB kit with a 1GB flash drive for your trouble?"

I was like, sure why not?

So, they send me back the 1GB kit, which I was a bit disappointed in not having the same quality ram as before, but hey at least I got a 1gb flash drive. So, I go to stick it in my computer and guess what? IT DOESN'T FIT!!!! hahaha

They sent me mislabeled DDR2 ram! So, I called them back and let them know. I don't hear back from the guy for a few days so I call again. This time I get a Service Rep Supervisor. THIS DUDE GOT ON IT!

He paid for my shipping, cross shipped, and then gave me 2GB GX XTC GOLD 3200 DDR Ram.... AND I got to keep the 1GB flash drive!!!!!!!

Sooooooooooooooo....

Now I have 3GB of GOLD OCZ Ram and it's awesome! All my games run soooo smooth. And I have to say... I didn't think 3GB would make much of a difference than 2... but it really does. I run Oblivion and it helps sooo much. BF2 runs great and so do a bunch of other games, plus my system is just running a whole lot more smooth.

Sure, it could be because I had some shizzy ram in there, but I gotta say that before all the errors, Oblivion just runs way better with the extra ram. I have full settings maxed out on 1024x768 with my 7900gtx, and AMD 4000san diego.

Anyone else have any experience with high amounts of ram and gaming?

Sorry for writing so much, I just figured I'd tell the whole story. :P

ATINUT · 02-01-2007, 03:57 AM

I've been gaming on 4GB's of ram for about a year, and don't regret getting it. One is better off having two to four gigs of ram now days for gaming.

JMerrick · 02-01-2007, 05:49 PM

Two gigs are a minimum but I can't imagine having 3 or 4 is better in terms of reducing load times, other than the fact it can cache more, but that's not really the same as stuttering from VM swapping.

johnrr6 · 02-01-2007, 09:49 PM

If I spend the extra----and get 4 x1 gig pc6400 DDR2 sticks

Vista 32 Bit will recognize and use it----correct??? (as long as the MoBo Bios will accept up to 4 gigs)

To go higher than 4 Gigs----I'd have to use the 64 Bit version.

I could NEVER get 4 gigs to be recognized with XP.

Before I spend the money----I just want to make sure.....

I saw an article at Anand that showed that the more memory with Vista----the better the performance overall. They seemed to think the sweet spot was 3 gigs

So I gues you could go two 1 gig sticks and two 512 sticks----using the same basic timings and voltage in their specs....

fvbounty · 02-01-2007, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrr6

If I spend the extra----and get 4 x1 gig pc6400 DDR2 sticks

Vista 32 Bit will recognize and use it----correct??? (as long as the MoBo Bios will accept up to 4 gigs)

To go higher than 4 Gigs----I'd have to use the 64 Bit version.

I could NEVER get 4 gigs to be recognized with XP.

Before I spend the money----I just want to make sure.....

I saw an article at Anand that showed that the more memory with Vista----the better the performance overall. They seemed to think the sweet spot was 3 gigs

So I gues you could go two 1 gig sticks and two 512 sticks----using the same basic timings and voltage in their specs....

I don't think 32 bit vista will recognize 4 gigs either, you have to run 64 bit .....

ATINUT · 02-02-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvbounty

I don't think 32 bit vista will recognize 4 gigs either, you have to run 64 bit .....

Wrong, 32bit Vista will see a full 4GB's of memory, but if you ever need to go more than 4GB's of ram, you will need to get a 64bit copy of Vista.

Read the following webpage, before making a statement like you did again.
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_02.asp

JMerrick · 02-02-2007, 03:59 AM

It will recognise it as 3.5 GB

johnrr6 · 02-02-2007, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMerrick

It will recognise it as 3.5 GB

I know of some users who could get XP to recognize approx 3.2 Gigs with XP..

But I never could.....

So-----I guess this is an improvement----somewhat

shaihulud · 02-02-2007, 09:51 AM

OK, ok, this has to stop! Every time I see this I cringe. Windows addresses all 4GB. ALL OF IT. There is no see only partial, a bit, some, or whatever. ATINut is on point, and as he said you are all incorrect if you think in that way.

How, all 4GB is utilize is another subject matter, and I leave it up to a previous link I posted for the details. So, please, stop misinforming people or incorrectly describing the 4GB barrier. All it takes is just a little education, and these horribly misinforming posts can stop.

Also, to recommend a memory size is futile for it is too relative, and even arbitrary. Really, the golden rule I learned long ago is: The more memory the better-period. It is simple as that. If you cannot simply gauge that you need more memory, then perhaps you do not even need to think about it.

Please read to understand the 4GB barrier better.
Understanding Address Spaces and the 4GB Limit - [H]ard|Forum

fvbounty · 02-02-2007, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATINUT

Wrong, 32bit Vista will see a full 4GB's of memory, but if you ever need to go more than 4GB's of ram, you will need to get a 64bit copy of Vista.

Read the following webpage, before making a statement like you did again.
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_02.asp

Please forgive me all mighty one if you read my post I said " I said I think it wouldn't", I didn't say that it absolutely would, so unless I know for absolute 100% sure I won't post anything here again....

vtjvt · 02-02-2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihulud

OK, ok, this has to stop! Every time I see this I cringe. Windows addresses all 4GB. ALL OF IT. There is no see only partial, a bit, some, or whatever. ATINut is on point, and as he said you are all incorrect if you think in that way.

How, all 4GB is utilize is another subject matter, and I leave it up to a previous link I posted for the details. So, please, stop misinforming people or incorrectly describing the 4GB barrier. All it takes is just a little education, and these horribly misinforming posts can stop.

Also, to recommend a memory size is futile for it is too relative, and even arbitrary. Really, the golden rule I learned long ago is: The more memory the better-period. It is simple as that. If you cannot simply gauge that you need more memory, then perhaps you do not even need to think about it.

Please read to understand the 4GB barrier better.
Understanding Address Spaces and the 4GB Limit - [H]ard|Forum

WOW, Reminds me of why I hardly ever post here anymore, Listen up boys and girls, GOD HAS SPOKEN!!!! (what a dick)

BKA · 02-02-2007, 10:47 AM

See what you started El Wiseguy. All you wanted to do was post your experience and maybe get a few comments and all heck breaks lose. Just kidding, lighten up people, its just a forum and were all here to learn or help others. Sometimes we all give misinformation. I remember one time when I was wrong but later found out I was mistaken.

fvbounty · 02-02-2007, 10:52 AM

I should never post without my first cup of coffee.....

mr. Charles · 02-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvbounty

I should never post without my first cup of coffee.....

. . . .don't forget that " Lemon-twist " just to please "those"4-here&thar........

........

......[ya know what i mean,(from im)...fv ].....

.....mr. Charles

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mr. Charles · 02-02-2007, 11:55 AM

. . . . so, you are stating for here that you went from 1GB memory to 2GB, and now at 3GB of memory??? For this upgrading you can see & feel a BIG improvement in all, OR Gaming, OR OS & app's?????? ............just curious to get your pont of noticed-improvement's of from the upp'ng in the memory past 1GB........

mr. Charles

02-01-2007, 03:20 AM	#1
El Wiseguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 490	2 or 3 gigs for gaming? YES. Well, hey everyone. Been away for a while but I'm comin' back! lol I had to get another job so I'm workin' about 54 hours a week right now and I'm just getting used to the new schedule. Anyways, onto what's goin' on. Well, my OCZ Platinum 3200 1GB (2x512mb) El Rev.2 (man, that's a mouthful) kit died. Well, specifically one of the modules in the kit died so I had to RMA the whole kid. So, my experience with OCZ Support was 'ok' at best to begin with... but it did get better. This is what happened: I sent in my RMA of my Platinum 1GB kit and I had to pay for the shipping as per usual for these deals. I don't hear back for about a week and a half, so I call in and talk to the dude on my case. He says, "Sorry, we don't carry your ram anymore and since it's the top of the line we don't have anything higher. So how do you feel about having the Gold 3200 El GX XTC 1GB kit with a 1GB flash drive for your trouble?" I was like, sure why not? So, they send me back the 1GB kit, which I was a bit disappointed in not having the same quality ram as before, but hey at least I got a 1gb flash drive. So, I go to stick it in my computer and guess what? IT DOESN'T FIT!!!! hahaha They sent me mislabeled DDR2 ram! So, I called them back and let them know. I don't hear back from the guy for a few days so I call again. This time I get a Service Rep Supervisor. THIS DUDE GOT ON IT! He paid for my shipping, cross shipped, and then gave me 2GB GX XTC GOLD 3200 DDR Ram.... AND I got to keep the 1GB flash drive!!!!!!! Sooooooooooooooo.... Now I have 3GB of GOLD OCZ Ram and it's awesome! All my games run soooo smooth. And I have to say... I didn't think 3GB would make much of a difference than 2... but it really does. I run Oblivion and it helps sooo much. BF2 runs great and so do a bunch of other games, plus my system is just running a whole lot more smooth. Sure, it could be because I had some shizzy ram in there, but I gotta say that before all the errors, Oblivion just runs way better with the extra ram. I have full settings maxed out on 1024x768 with my 7900gtx, and AMD 4000san diego. Anyone else have any experience with high amounts of ram and gaming? Sorry for writing so much, I just figured I'd tell the whole story. :P __________________ There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.
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02-01-2007, 03:57 AM	#2
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02-01-2007, 05:49 PM	#3
JMerrick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 352	Two gigs are a minimum but I can't imagine having 3 or 4 is better in terms of reducing load times, other than the fact it can cache more, but that's not really the same as stuttering from VM swapping. __________________ OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 3.0 GHz (Conroe) Motherboard ASUS P5B-E RAM 2 GB Kingston DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 Dual Channel Video NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT PCI-E 512 MB Audio SoundMAX HD Audio OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz with HT (Northwood) Motherboard ASUS P4P800 Deluxe RAM 1 GB Kingston DDR400 3-3-3-8 Dual Channel Video NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT AGP 256 MB Audio SoundMAX Digital Audio OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Pentium III 1.0 GHz (Coppermine) Motherboard ASUS P3V4X RAM 256 MB Kingston PC133 2-2-2-6 Video NVIDIA GeForce2 MX400 AGP 64 MB Audio Creative Sound Blaster Live!
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02-01-2007, 09:49 PM	#4
johnrr6 Lucky Amateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,373	32 bit Vista----4 Gigs recognized?? If I spend the extra----and get 4 x1 gig pc6400 DDR2 sticks Vista 32 Bit will recognize and use it----correct??? (as long as the MoBo Bios will accept up to 4 gigs) To go higher than 4 Gigs----I'd have to use the 64 Bit version. I could NEVER get 4 gigs to be recognized with XP. Before I spend the money----I just want to make sure..... I saw an article at Anand that showed that the more memory with Vista----the better the performance overall. They seemed to think the sweet spot was 3 gigs So I gues you could go two 1 gig sticks and two 512 sticks----using the same basic timings and voltage in their specs.... __________________ 1st Rig:-----------------------------------------------------2nd Rig: Q6600 @ 3.2 Ghz------------------------------------------9850 BE at 2.6 Ghz Vista Ultimate Edition 32 Bit SP1--------------------------Vista Ultimate Edition 64 Bit SP1 AB9QuadGT, BIOS .13-------------------------------------AsRock 780G BIOS 1.50 Thermalright SI-128 HS w/JMC 120 PWM Fan------------Thermaltake Blue Orb II 4 x 1 Gig Gskill PC 6400 Micron D9's---------------------Mushkin 4 x 2 Gig PC8500 eVGA 8800 GTX--------------------------------------------ATI HD 4870 4 x 250 Gig Western Digital SATA II HDs in RAID 5-----2 x 500Gig Western Digital SATA II HDs in RAID 0 Lite-On 20x DVD Burner w/Lightscribe--------------------Samsung SATA Tru Direct DVD Burner w/Lightscribe OCZ 700 W GameXstream PSU---------------------------Silverstone 500 Watt ST50EF PSU Creative X-Fi sound----------------------------------------Azalia Onboard Sound Lian Li PC-7B Plus II Black Case--------------------------Silverstone SG01 SFF Black Case Speedlink Medusa 5.1 headphones----------------------Hauppage 1600 TV Card
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02-02-2007, 03:59 AM	#7
JMerrick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 352	It will recognise it as 3.5 GB __________________ OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 3.0 GHz (Conroe) Motherboard ASUS P5B-E RAM 2 GB Kingston DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 Dual Channel Video NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT PCI-E 512 MB Audio SoundMAX HD Audio OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz with HT (Northwood) Motherboard ASUS P4P800 Deluxe RAM 1 GB Kingston DDR400 3-3-3-8 Dual Channel Video NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT AGP 256 MB Audio SoundMAX Digital Audio OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2 CPU Intel Pentium III 1.0 GHz (Coppermine) Motherboard ASUS P3V4X RAM 256 MB Kingston PC133 2-2-2-6 Video NVIDIA GeForce2 MX400 AGP 64 MB Audio Creative Sound Blaster Live!
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02-02-2007, 09:51 AM	#9
shaihulud Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,239	OK, ok, this has to stop! Every time I see this I cringe. Windows addresses all 4GB. ALL OF IT. There is no see only partial, a bit, some, or whatever. ATINut is on point, and as he said you are all incorrect if you think in that way. How, all 4GB is utilize is another subject matter, and I leave it up to a previous link I posted for the details. So, please, stop misinforming people or incorrectly describing the 4GB barrier. All it takes is just a little education, and these horribly misinforming posts can stop. Also, to recommend a memory size is futile for it is too relative, and even arbitrary. Really, the golden rule I learned long ago is: The more memory the better-period. It is simple as that. If you cannot simply gauge that you need more memory, then perhaps you do not even need to think about it. Please read to understand the 4GB barrier better. Understanding Address Spaces and the 4GB Limit - [H]ard\|Forum
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02-02-2007, 10:47 AM	#12
BKA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,093	See what you started El Wiseguy. All you wanted to do was post your experience and maybe get a few comments and all heck breaks lose. Just kidding, lighten up people, its just a forum and were all here to learn or help others. Sometimes we all give misinformation. I remember one time when I was wrong but later found out I was mistaken. __________________ DFI LT X48-T2R Q9450@3.2 2-3870(CF) 4GB Patriot Viper Vista x64 ULT
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mr. Charles Lost > but still at it Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: P.N.W. Posts: 1,402	so, El WiseGuy. . . . . . . . . . so, you are stating for here that you went from 1GB memory to 2GB, and now at 3GB of memory??? For this upgrading you can see & feel a BIG improvement in all, OR Gaming, OR OS & app's?????? ............just curious to get your pont of noticed-improvement's of from the upp'ng in the memory past 1GB........ mr. Charles __________________ .....Gaming_rigg#1 ..... _AMD Opty 170 {CCBWE 0530 TPMW} dual core@2.8 * [now] ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mthrbrd * 2GB G.Skill {HZ} * 2(ea)=Nvidia Geforce 7800 GTX 512MB=>>SLI<< * HHD's = WD 74GB Raptor & Maxtor 250GB/16mb/7200 rpm * PSU=OCZ-600w_Adj SLi PwrStream * SB X-Fi XtremeMusic * Swiftech H2O "Xtreme Duty"_cooling(w/*Storm_wb* ) * . ..."Gaming"_rigg#2... AMDFX-55 MSI K8N Neo2 Plat. nVidia nForce3 mthrbrd2GB Mushkin's XP4000ATi (R) X800* XT Plat.Ed.(cat's 5.20)* OCZ-520w_Adj PwrStream PSU*H2O-cooling = CPUAC_Silencer4-cooling = GPUAudigy2 ZS_Gamer* >>>Ground Poundin<<< Logitech's Z680 spkr.systm. * Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard & Logitech MX518 Gaming Mouse * Samsung 940b LCD * yeah >>> yeah ..... i-No * . _ the "other" rigg: P4 2.4C@3.4 {SL6Z3}Asus P4C800-E Dlx_rev2.0 {Bios=1016}OCZ PC4000(2x512) dl ch GOLD's* H2O-cooled = Koolance/EXOS-AL { rad, CPU, GPU, res/pump }NB = Swiftech's MCX159-P ATi (R) X800 Pro {cat's 5.20}Aerogate-2 {mntr-temp's/fan rpm's}Enermax-550w psu* 2(ea)=Maxtor hhd's 160gb w/8mb buffer_7200Lian-Li PC60usb (mid_Alum.cs) Audigy 2 ZSViewSonic PF790 (19" mntr.) ..... ..... .
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