HDD crash? - Page 2

jaketerminate · 05-16-2008, 01:08 PM

I don't preferably think its the pirated OS you have installed, although it could be reading wrong and making huge skips on the disk. Just a thought. Heres a diagram:

ynnadkrap · 05-18-2008, 03:34 PM

Ok well I downloaded the Seagate Diagnose tool and after it runs it says:
No Hard Drives found

So I am assuming that my hard drive is fried?

Before I buy a new one does anyone have any idea what may have caused this problem? I just want to make sure before I purchase a new hard drive because I don't want the same problem occurring again.

My hard drive was only about 5 months old but I would RARELY restart my computer or turn it off for that matter. Could this be the reason why my hard drive fried?

rjs735 · 05-18-2008, 04:23 PM

That's a pretty good bet. If you get that error message that says the electronics ( Bios being a part) is history.

The diagnostics bypass the system bios. The BIOS I talk about is the bios on the harddrive.

Other than the posted MTBF rates there's no guaranty your will achieve the same results. Some drives go longer and then some go less. I assume you can use the warranty to get a new drive.

ctal · 05-18-2008, 08:51 PM

Everyone should understand that hard drive mtbf's are extremely misleading. For instance, the recent WD Enterprise drives are rated at 1.2 million hours mtbf, which is 137 years. In reality, they will only last for a tiny fraction of that time.

The numbers in the following explanation are just for purposes of explanation, and are not representative of the numbers for any actual drives. What the manufacturers do is to run say 100 drives for 1 year, find that 1 has failed, and declare the mtbf to be 100 years. The problem with that is that the failure rate is not constant as the drives age. After say 5 or 10 years, most or all of the drives will fail due to mechanical components wearing out.

Also, a disproportionate number of drives fail very early (either doa, or within a few months), due to manufacturing defects or various infant mortality failure modes, or rough handling during shipping.

As Mark Twain once said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics!

Regards,

-- Al

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jaketerminate ABX Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 641	Re: HDD crash? I don't preferably think its the pirated OS you have installed, although it could be reading wrong and making huge skips on the disk. Just a thought. Heres a diagram: Last edited by jaketerminate : 05-16-2008 at 01:16 PM.
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05-18-2008, 03:34 PM	#17
ynnadkrap Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 11	Re: HDD crash? Ok well I downloaded the Seagate Diagnose tool and after it runs it says: No Hard Drives found So I am assuming that my hard drive is fried? Before I buy a new one does anyone have any idea what may have caused this problem? I just want to make sure before I purchase a new hard drive because I don't want the same problem occurring again. My hard drive was only about 5 months old but I would RARELY restart my computer or turn it off for that matter. Could this be the reason why my hard drive fried?
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05-18-2008, 04:23 PM	#18
rjs735 Virus? What I am not sick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,788	Re: HDD crash? That's a pretty good bet. If you get that error message that says the electronics ( Bios being a part) is history. The diagnostics bypass the system bios. The BIOS I talk about is the bios on the harddrive. Other than the posted MTBF rates there's no guaranty your will achieve the same results. Some drives go longer and then some go less. I assume you can use the warranty to get a new drive. __________________ Asus P4S8x 2.0 Ghz Celeron Ram 512MB WDC 80GB HD SATA WDC 80GB SATA Memorex DUAL DVD/RW Win98SE/XP pro Asus P2b-F Cel 450 Ram 256MB W98 SE Optorite CDRW WD 40GB Asrock P4combo P4 346 Xp Pro Sp 3 SATA HD SATA DVD/RW Foxconn 925EX 550 XP Media SP2 Sata HD Sata DVD/RW Foxconn 925EX 550 Xp SP2 Asrock 775Dual 550 Xp pro SP2 IBM T23 1.3hz RAM 512MB XP pro SP2 All systems are networked Konica Minolta Color Laser Samsung clp-315 Color laser Dlink 655 Dlink G650 Wireless
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05-18-2008, 08:51 PM	#19
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,160	Re: HDD crash? Everyone should understand that hard drive mtbf's are extremely misleading. For instance, the recent WD Enterprise drives are rated at 1.2 million hours mtbf, which is 137 years. In reality, they will only last for a tiny fraction of that time. The numbers in the following explanation are just for purposes of explanation, and are not representative of the numbers for any actual drives. What the manufacturers do is to run say 100 drives for 1 year, find that 1 has failed, and declare the mtbf to be 100 years. The problem with that is that the failure rate is not constant as the drives age. After say 5 or 10 years, most or all of the drives will fail due to mechanical components wearing out. Also, a disproportionate number of drives fail very early (either doa, or within a few months), due to manufacturing defects or various infant mortality failure modes, or rough handling during shipping. As Mark Twain once said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics! Regards, -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Last edited by ctal : 05-18-2008 at 09:27 PM.
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