Out of Memory Error with 384 ram ??

jluzbet · 03-28-2001, 05:12 PM

Hello to all,
Latelly I am getting an Out of Memory error that I have to reboot my PC so it can work again.
I have WinME (It was Happening in 98) This is happening if I am using IE, I have reinstalled the OS again with no luck.. Can I have a bad Ram ?
I am using 3 128 Sticks of Crucial with a p3 @1000 not overclocked.

Thanks for the help in advance.

dddibley · 03-28-2001, 06:17 PM

Try a Ctrl-Alt-Del the next time you see the message and find out whats currently running on the system. If there's very little listed, then you may have a program that isn't returning mem back to Windows when it shuts down. (Windows can do this too !!). Commonly referred to as a 'memory leak'.

ddd

jrogers · 03-28-2001, 07:18 PM

windows has a utility "sysmon" I like to use sometimes to check the health of my system:
http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/sysmon.jpg
I have mine set to monitor

kernel processor usage
swapfile size
allocated memory
unused physical memory
and a few other items

I guess an approximation would be that Allocated memory = (total physical memory - unused physical memory) + some swapfile space or from the picture above(my total memory = 384) so
307.7 = (384 - 123) + about 46 meg of the 80meg swapfile, the swapfile is dynamic and windows may not always be using the full size that it dynamically changes as it's needs change.

I once had a problem with M$ flightsimulator caused by my swap partition free space was being incorrectly reported to windows, my swap partition was set for 512meg and fligtsimulator crashed when it hit around 350meg, a scandisk of my swap partition found and fixed the problem. I happened to have sysmon running at the time

and thought I had 150meg of swap file available but scandisk told me otherwise.

click START, RUN and type SYSMON
if you don't have it, you can install it using control panel,
Add/Remove Programs, Windows Setup, select System Tools and check system monitor.

http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/sysmon1.jpg

here's another interesting program:
http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/taskinfo.jpg

get it here==> http://www.iarsn.com/

hope you solve your problem

[Edited by jrogers on 03-28-2001 at 07:33 PM]

Mushkin Rules · 03-28-2001, 07:37 PM

jluzbet,

Just curious, is your memory each has 2 sides (chips are located on both sides of the SDRAM pcb)?

jluzbet · 03-28-2001, 07:40 PM

After checking the Sysmon I have available 85 to 90 megs of unsed phisical mem,. could windows be using over 290 megs with only two things running ..

jluzbet · 03-28-2001, 07:41 PM

Hey Mushkin Rules.
No the are one sided ram

Mushkin Rules · 03-28-2001, 07:51 PM

Hey, maybe this can help, it's from microsoft :"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed. Link: http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q253/9/12.ASP

From Google Search Engine: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+Memory+error+

dddibley · 03-29-2001, 05:29 PM

Interesting link. Seems the 512 MB cap on the CUSL2 isn't such a bad idea after all. Nice find.

ddd

Sir Skully · 03-30-2001, 12:37 AM

Interesting Mushkin Rules and thanks!

DennisTheMenace · 03-31-2001, 08:45 AM

I'm also getting out of memory (I have 256MB), spool errors etc after I formatted my hard drive and installed a fresh WIN98 SE and using the new ASUS CD-ROM version 14.02 (says it on the top of the CD). I was using CD version 14.01. The only things I installed from version 14.02 was the ATA drivers, graphic drivers and the chipset. Glad I'm not the only one seeing this problem. What ASUS CD ROM are you using? Do you think it is a bad motherboard or the drivers from ASUS CD 14.02?

dddibley · 03-31-2001, 04:08 PM

I have 1x256MB and Win98se but don't have that problem.. yet. All I installed was the latest Intel INF drivers (2.80.010a) from their site, right after the OS. Haven't used anything on the CD.

http://developer.intel.com/design/so...atform/inf.htm

There must be something else you guys have in common other than the OS and RAM.

ddd

Sir Skully · 03-31-2001, 10:35 PM

I'm the same as you ddd, 1x 256 rev2 Mushkin. No problems! I also installed INF drivers only and right after loading the OS.

jluzbet · 03-31-2001, 11:57 PM

I have the new inf drivers installed too and I am getting this error every 30 minutes or so ...

Sir Skully · 04-01-2001, 12:58 AM

I don't know if I have the newest INF drivers or not! I need to check that out!

jluzbet · 04-01-2001, 03:29 AM

Dennis,
I dont thinks is the motherboard or the drivers I thinks is a windows issue.. What do you guys think..
I will try the change in the microsoft site.
What shouls I put for minimum vcache size & Maximum if I have a total of 384 Ram?

03-28-2001, 05:12 PM	#1
jluzbet MATRIX69 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Miami Posts: 95	Hello to all, Latelly I am getting an Out of Memory error that I have to reboot my PC so it can work again. I have WinME (It was Happening in 98) This is happening if I am using IE, I have reinstalled the OS again with no luck.. Can I have a bad Ram ? I am using 3 128 Sticks of Crucial with a p3 @1000 not overclocked. Thanks for the help in advance. __________________ "Nothing Attempted, Nothing Achieved"
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03-28-2001, 06:17 PM	#2
dddibley Time well wasted Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,276	Try a Ctrl-Alt-Del the next time you see the message and find out whats currently running on the system. If there's very little listed, then you may have a program that isn't returning mem back to Windows when it shuts down. (Windows can do this too !!). Commonly referred to as a 'memory leak'. ddd
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03-28-2001, 07:18 PM	#3
jrogers Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: marion, ma usa Posts: 103	windows has a utility "sysmon" I like to use sometimes to check the health of my system: http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/sysmon.jpg I have mine set to monitor kernel processor usage swapfile size allocated memory unused physical memory and a few other items I guess an approximation would be that Allocated memory = (total physical memory - unused physical memory) + some swapfile space or from the picture above(my total memory = 384) so 307.7 = (384 - 123) + about 46 meg of the 80meg swapfile, the swapfile is dynamic and windows may not always be using the full size that it dynamically changes as it's needs change. I once had a problem with M$ flightsimulator caused by my swap partition free space was being incorrectly reported to windows, my swap partition was set for 512meg and fligtsimulator crashed when it hit around 350meg, a scandisk of my swap partition found and fixed the problem. I happened to have sysmon running at the time and thought I had 150meg of swap file available but scandisk told me otherwise. click START, RUN and type SYSMON if you don't have it, you can install it using control panel, Add/Remove Programs, Windows Setup, select System Tools and check system monitor. http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/sysmon1.jpg here's another interesting program: http://24.218.106.234/flightsim/taskinfo.jpg get it here==> http://www.iarsn.com/ hope you solve your problem [Edited by jrogers on 03-28-2001 at 07:33 PM]
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03-28-2001, 07:37 PM	#4
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	jluzbet, Just curious, is your memory each has 2 sides (chips are located on both sides of the SDRAM pcb)? __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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03-28-2001, 07:40 PM	#5
jluzbet MATRIX69 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Miami Posts: 95	After checking the Sysmon I have available 85 to 90 megs of unsed phisical mem,. could windows be using over 290 megs with only two things running .. __________________ "Nothing Attempted, Nothing Achieved"
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03-28-2001, 07:41 PM	#6
jluzbet MATRIX69 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Miami Posts: 95	Hey Mushkin Rules. No the are one sided ram __________________ "Nothing Attempted, Nothing Achieved"
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03-28-2001, 07:51 PM	#7
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Hey, maybe this can help, it's from microsoft :"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed. Link: http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q253/9/12.ASP From Google Search Engine: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+Memory+error+ __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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03-29-2001, 05:29 PM	#8
dddibley Time well wasted Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,276	Interesting link. Seems the 512 MB cap on the CUSL2 isn't such a bad idea after all. Nice find. ddd
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03-30-2001, 12:37 AM	#9
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 26,213	Interesting Mushkin Rules and thanks!
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03-31-2001, 08:45 AM	#10
DennisTheMenace Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 6	Out of Memory I'm also getting out of memory (I have 256MB), spool errors etc after I formatted my hard drive and installed a fresh WIN98 SE and using the new ASUS CD-ROM version 14.02 (says it on the top of the CD). I was using CD version 14.01. The only things I installed from version 14.02 was the ATA drivers, graphic drivers and the chipset. Glad I'm not the only one seeing this problem. What ASUS CD ROM are you using? Do you think it is a bad motherboard or the drivers from ASUS CD 14.02?
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03-31-2001, 04:08 PM	#11
dddibley Time well wasted Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,276	I have 1x256MB and Win98se but don't have that problem.. yet. All I installed was the latest Intel INF drivers (2.80.010a) from their site, right after the OS. Haven't used anything on the CD. http://developer.intel.com/design/so...atform/inf.htm There must be something else you guys have in common other than the OS and RAM. ddd
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03-31-2001, 10:35 PM	#12
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 26,213	I'm the same as you ddd, 1x 256 rev2 Mushkin. No problems! I also installed INF drivers only and right after loading the OS.
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03-31-2001, 11:57 PM	#13
jluzbet MATRIX69 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Miami Posts: 95	I have the new inf drivers installed too and I am getting this error every 30 minutes or so ... __________________ "Nothing Attempted, Nothing Achieved"
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04-01-2001, 12:58 AM	#14
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 26,213	I don't know if I have the newest INF drivers or not! I need to check that out!
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04-01-2001, 03:29 AM	#15
jluzbet MATRIX69 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Miami Posts: 95	Dennis, I dont thinks is the motherboard or the drivers I thinks is a windows issue.. What do you guys think.. I will try the change in the microsoft site. What shouls I put for minimum vcache size & Maximum if I have a total of 384 Ram? __________________ "Nothing Attempted, Nothing Achieved"
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