Rev 2 or rev 3 Mushkin....

tpenney · 02-12-2001, 07:12 AM

Hey guys:

Assuming that rev3 Mushkin High Perf is better than rev2, why isn't there a 256MB module available in rev3 format??? Also, do mushkin make 512MB modules?

Thanks..

Yoda_abx · 02-12-2001, 08:31 AM

The chips on the Rev 2 256 are the same as the Rev 2 128! Call Mushkin for verification! The Rev 2 256 are the best! Mushkin does not make a 512 currently.

Howard Stern_abx · 02-12-2001, 02:03 PM

I do not think the chips are the same, rev 2 use mosel while rev 3 use seimmens

Valvoline6 · 02-12-2001, 02:27 PM

I think Tom made a typo. He means the Rev 2 256 and the Rev 3 128 use the same chips.

DS_abx · 02-12-2001, 03:08 PM

I am not sure because I do not own mushkin but I kind of remember someone saying that rev.2 is double sided and rev.3 is single sided, but do not take my word for it.

Musaki · 02-13-2001, 04:31 AM

Here's the chip (Mosel Vitelic) used on Rev.2 128 megs stick

The Rev.2 256megs and Rev.3 128megs sticks use the same chip (Siemens Infineon)

The Rev.3 is better in stability when overclocking than the Rev.2 128megs.
Often 1 256megs module will perform better than 2 128megs modules because your driving information on 1 module.

Valvoline6 · 02-13-2001, 11:05 AM

What I said.

jian · 02-13-2001, 11:23 AM

The overclcokabilty of the rev 3 chips is not so much related to the chips used but rather the design of the pcb.

Apparently, the single sided dimm reduces interference, or something along those lines, and therefore allows for a higher overclock.

Therefore, it is possible that the chips used in rev 3 could be of either make.

There's an srticle on the web somewhere about this, i think it is on http://www.octools.com but I'm not toally sure.

jmsandrsn · 02-13-2001, 11:18 PM

OK Folks,
This article fully explains how REV 3 came into being: http://www.lostcircuits.com/memory/rev3/

They took a 256mb Module of REV 2 and removed all of the chips from 1 of the sides.

Musaki · 02-14-2001, 12:08 AM

Hey jmsandrsn, great reply you made !
Hope it's gonna stop the posting about Rev.2 & Rev.3 differences that multiplies since Rev.3 came out.

Regards ! Musaki

eraser44 · 03-02-2001, 02:16 PM

jmsandrsn,
Great link helped me to make the next purchasing decision.

[Edited by eraser44 on 03-02-2001 at 10:21 PM]

Sir Skully · 03-02-2001, 02:35 PM

Hey, did I hear someone say ''Mushkin Rules''

eraser44 · 03-02-2001, 10:21 PM

Anyone know how long of a backorder at Mushkin for the 256 Rev2?

02-12-2001, 07:12 AM	#1
tpenney Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 21	Hey guys: Assuming that rev3 Mushkin High Perf is better than rev2, why isn't there a 256MB module available in rev3 format??? Also, do mushkin make 512MB modules? Thanks.. __________________ Sincerely, Trevor...
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02-12-2001, 08:31 AM	#2
Yoda_abx MODERATOR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: United States of America Posts: 4,144	The chips on the Rev 2 256 are the same as the Rev 2 128! Call Mushkin for verification! The Rev 2 256 are the best! Mushkin does not make a 512 currently. __________________ Sincerely, Yoda AKA: Usa_re8e1 (when gaming) Show your support for this site by visting our advertisers...
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02-12-2001, 02:03 PM	#3
Howard Stern_abx King Of All Media Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: VA Posts: 793	I do not think the chips are the same, rev 2 use mosel while rev 3 use seimmens
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02-13-2001, 04:31 AM	#6
Musaki GOA Freak !!! ;-) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: QC, CA Posts: 62	Here's a fact ! Here's the chip (Mosel Vitelic) used on Rev.2 128 megs stick The Rev.2 256megs and Rev.3 128megs sticks use the same chip (Siemens Infineon) The Rev.3 is better in stability when overclocking than the Rev.2 128megs. Often 1 256megs module will perform better than 2 128megs modules because your driving information on 1 module.
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Valvoline6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 125	What I said. __________________ Lian Li PC65 USB Asus P4PE 1003.007 P4 2.53B @ 3.34 GHz 1.525v @ 35* C /w Vantec Aeroflow (idle) 512 MB Corsair PC3200 RAM 2-3-2-5 @440 Antec TruePower 430 Watt 80 GB Maxtor 8MB Cache Sapphire Radeon 9700 350/325 LiteOn 52x CDRW, Hitachi GD-5000 DVD Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Logitech MX 700 Mouse Logitech Cordless Elite Keyboard 3.5" Rheobus Vantech Nexus Panel Blue Cold Cathode light, 3 Blue and 1 Green LED Fans.
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02-13-2001, 11:23 AM	#8
jian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 89	The overclcokabilty of the rev 3 chips is not so much related to the chips used but rather the design of the pcb. Apparently, the single sided dimm reduces interference, or something along those lines, and therefore allows for a higher overclock. Therefore, it is possible that the chips used in rev 3 could be of either make. There's an srticle on the web somewhere about this, i think it is on http://www.octools.com but I'm not toally sure. __________________ Asus CUSL2-C Intel P3600E @ 912 128MB Crucial PC133 Cas 2 Ram @ 152 Cas 2 Creative Labs Geforce Annihilator Pro Sound Blaster Live Player 5.1 Promise Fasttrak100 (Modified Ultra100) 2 x 30GB IBM 75GXP (Raid Striping configuration) Pioneer 103S DVD ROM Mitsumi CR-4804TE CDRW
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02-13-2001, 11:18 PM	#9
jmsandrsn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 102	OK Folks, This article fully explains how REV 3 came into being: http://www.lostcircuits.com/memory/rev3/ They took a 256mb Module of REV 2 and removed all of the chips from 1 of the sides.
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02-14-2001, 12:08 AM	#10
Musaki GOA Freak !!! ;-) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: QC, CA Posts: 62	Youou !!!!!!! Hey jmsandrsn, great reply you made ! Hope it's gonna stop the posting about Rev.2 & Rev.3 differences that multiplies since Rev.3 came out. Regards ! Musaki
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03-02-2001, 02:16 PM	#11
eraser44 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 27	jmsandrsn, Great link helped me to make the next purchasing decision. [Edited by eraser44 on 03-02-2001 at 10:21 PM]
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03-02-2001, 10:21 PM	#13
eraser44 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 27	Anyone know how long of a backorder at Mushkin for the 256 Rev2?
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