What to do?

Verbal_abx · 06-16-2001, 12:53 AM

Hi,

This is my first post here so please bear with me. Right now I have an Intel 815EEA Motherboard with on board lan. Two days ago I ordered my 2nd piece of 128mb Rev 2 Ram. So now I have 256mb. After having this for a couple of days I find myself very limited with the things I can do to my comp as far as tweaking and getting as much performance as possible out of it. My first piece of mushkin rev 2 ram had the spd programmed to do 3-3-3 (which i just found it from this board and from a call to mushkin )and was on the old green PCB. My new one is on Black PCB and is low profile and is programmed 2-2-2, but with Intel's lack of bios options i guess it reverts back to CAS 3 because of the other chip. So here's where i stand now, I really would like to get rid of my Intel Mobo and get an Asus Cusl2. This is where you guys come in. I want to get an Asus board but i think there are a couple of ones and I saw that there was a pearl or something. If someone could explain that to me what the different ones are id appreciate it. I don't need any onboard video, nor onboard audio. Also, will the bios in the asus allow me to bypass the spd on that one chip so that it will run 2-2-2 since that is what its rated at? Or would you advise me just to sell the ram and get a stick of 256 Crucial Cas 2 to go with my new board? please offer some opinions. Thank you very much.

jc34 · 06-16-2001, 03:59 AM

If your going for a 815 board from Asus

there is the
CUSL2 Has onboard video

Cusl2-C no onboard video
AGP pro slot 6 PCI 3 DIMM Slots

Black Pearl Based on the 815
this is a specialilty board kinda of thier salute to
the 815 chipset nothing special.

The new 815 boards

Tusl2
Tusl2-c
there are a couple more models not sure what they are
these boards should be on sale very soon if not already.

Are made to support the new Tutalin PIII CPU's
but will work with the Coppermine PIII's and Celerons II's also
I think the TUSL2 has a onboard RAID controller not sure on that
one.I have the CUSL2 board I don't use the onboard video
I find it to be rock stable in everything

And yes you can set the memory manually in all the board I listed
as long as your memory can handle the faster timings the board will do the rest.If you plan to overclock the board have great features for that as well.

Hope this helps

Mushkin Rules · 06-16-2001, 03:02 PM

1 stick 256MB Mushkin Rev 2 (Infineon chip) is better than 1 stick 128 MB Rev 2 (Mosel Vitelic chip). The 1 stick 256 MB Rev 2 can overclock higher. If you like, since you just bought your 128 Rev 2, return it and get the 1 stick 256MB Rev 2. It depends on how high FSB overclocking are you looking. But, yes, you can set the Memory timing manually, instead of SPD detection, in the bios using CUSL2 & TUSL2 series mobo.

For CUSL2 and TUSL2 series mobo see here:
CUSL2: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...sl2/index.html

CUSL2-C: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...2-c/index.html

CUSL2-C Black Pearl: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth..._bp/index.html

TUSL2: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...sl2/index.html

TUSL2-C: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...2-c/index.html

CUSL2 has on board VGA, whereas CUSL2-C & CUSL2-C Black Pearl (Black PCB) does not have onboard VGA. ALL come with optional onboard Audio. You have to specify that you don't want mobo with onboard Audio, usually the one without onboard Audio is specified as WOA (Without Audio)

**Perry_abx** · 06-16-2001, 03:08 PM

Welcome to the forum Verbal.

I agree with MR on the 256MB Rev2. See if they will let you exchange it. The Mushkin Rev2 will do better than Crucial for overclocking!

Hey MR... did I hear somebody say "Mushkin Rules"?

patentman · 06-16-2001, 04:14 PM

Yes a CUSL2 or C will let you set the memory timings at CAS2 whatever the module`s SPD is programmed to.
Hmm,early rev2 128Mb modules may run at 133 CAS2 but not sure how much more memory bus at CAS2
Buy first the mobo,then see if you need a mem upgrade-Rev2 256 or rev3(128) is a good choise.

Mushkin Rules · 06-16-2001, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pbeyer
........Hey MR... did I hear somebody say "Mushkin Rules"?

YES ............. MUSHKIN RULES

Btw, patentman & pbeyer, I was about to purchase the Rev 3, but since yesterday Mushkin web at www.mushkin.com was down. It's very unusual. Any idea....some hackers from jealous competitors might do that .....?

patentman · 06-16-2001, 04:27 PM

Yep,site doesn`t work for me.Thanks God I`ve already have that beast!!
Hope it will be soon fixed.

Tursiops · 06-16-2001, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Mushkin Rules

Quote:

Btw, patentman & pbeyer, I was about to purchase the Rev 3, but since yesterday Mushkin web at www.mushkin.com was down. It's very unusual. Any idea....some hackers from jealous competitors might do that .....?

Looks like a router's down at qwest.net...

- Tursiops.

**Perry_abx** · 06-16-2001, 04:40 PM

16 78 ms 78 ms 72 ms den-edge-17.inet.qwest.net [205.171.16.30]
17 * * * Request timed out.

Yep it's timing out here.

Mushkin Rules · 06-16-2001, 05:04 PM

I guess I have to wait then.....

patentman · 06-16-2001, 05:14 PM

Too bad for me that I had bought them when prices were high...

...but I have enjoyed them earlier.he he he

**Perry_abx** · 06-16-2001, 05:18 PM

Tell me about it Pman! I paid $167 U.S. back in March for my 256MB stick of Rev2. Last time I checked they were selling for $119. It was still worth it though. No problems ever due to my RAM!

Mushkin Rules · 06-16-2001, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pbeyer
Tell me about it Pman! I paid $167 U.S. back in March for my 256MB stick of Rev2. Last time I checked they were selling for $119. It was still worth it though. No problems ever due to my RAM!

Hey, I bought my 256 Rev 2 for $167 too, must be come from the same batch production. I wanna try the Rev 3 now. 1 stick 128 MB for about $79. All Prices of Memory (SDRAM & DDRAM) & other electronics products are always have one thing in common...reduced after the newer comes out. Guess you have enjoyed yours patentman

patentman · 06-16-2001, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mushkin Rules

Hey, I bought my 256 Rev 2 for $167 too, must be come from the same batch production. I wanna try the Rev 3 now. 1 stick 128 MB for about $79. All Prices of Memory (SDRAM & DDRAM) & other electronics products are always have one thing in common...reduced after the newer comes out. Guess you have enjoyed yours patentman

You know what I would post if I didn`t

After all,I paid $351

for two sticks,totaly(international shippment,taxes)

Mushkin Rules · 06-16-2001, 05:45 PM

But they are still rocking your puter, aren't they patentman...

06-16-2001, 12:53 AM	#1
Verbal_abx Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: State College Posts: 3	What to do? Hi, This is my first post here so please bear with me. Right now I have an Intel 815EEA Motherboard with on board lan. Two days ago I ordered my 2nd piece of 128mb Rev 2 Ram. So now I have 256mb. After having this for a couple of days I find myself very limited with the things I can do to my comp as far as tweaking and getting as much performance as possible out of it. My first piece of mushkin rev 2 ram had the spd programmed to do 3-3-3 (which i just found it from this board and from a call to mushkin )and was on the old green PCB. My new one is on Black PCB and is low profile and is programmed 2-2-2, but with Intel's lack of bios options i guess it reverts back to CAS 3 because of the other chip. So here's where i stand now, I really would like to get rid of my Intel Mobo and get an Asus Cusl2. This is where you guys come in. I want to get an Asus board but i think there are a couple of ones and I saw that there was a pearl or something. If someone could explain that to me what the different ones are id appreciate it. I don't need any onboard video, nor onboard audio. Also, will the bios in the asus allow me to bypass the spd on that one chip so that it will run 2-2-2 since that is what its rated at? Or would you advise me just to sell the ram and get a stick of 256 Crucial Cas 2 to go with my new board? please offer some opinions. Thank you very much. __________________ --Verbal
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06-16-2001, 03:59 AM	#2
jc34 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Posts: 29	If your going for a 815 board from Asus there is the CUSL2 Has onboard video Cusl2-C no onboard video AGP pro slot 6 PCI 3 DIMM Slots Black Pearl Based on the 815 this is a specialilty board kinda of thier salute to the 815 chipset nothing special. The new 815 boards Tusl2 Tusl2-c there are a couple more models not sure what they are these boards should be on sale very soon if not already. Are made to support the new Tutalin PIII CPU's but will work with the Coppermine PIII's and Celerons II's also I think the TUSL2 has a onboard RAID controller not sure on that one.I have the CUSL2 board I don't use the onboard video I find it to be rock stable in everything And yes you can set the memory manually in all the board I listed as long as your memory can handle the faster timings the board will do the rest.If you plan to overclock the board have great features for that as well. Hope this helps __________________ Tweaked and running 100% out of Spec.Then again so is my Computer.
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06-16-2001, 03:02 PM	#3
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	1 stick 256MB Mushkin Rev 2 (Infineon chip) is better than 1 stick 128 MB Rev 2 (Mosel Vitelic chip). The 1 stick 256 MB Rev 2 can overclock higher. If you like, since you just bought your 128 Rev 2, return it and get the 1 stick 256MB Rev 2. It depends on how high FSB overclocking are you looking. But, yes, you can set the Memory timing manually, instead of SPD detection, in the bios using CUSL2 & TUSL2 series mobo. For CUSL2 and TUSL2 series mobo see here: CUSL2: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...sl2/index.html CUSL2-C: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...2-c/index.html CUSL2-C Black Pearl: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth..._bp/index.html TUSL2: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...sl2/index.html TUSL2-C: http://www.asus.com.tw/products/Moth...2-c/index.html CUSL2 has on board VGA, whereas CUSL2-C & CUSL2-C Black Pearl (Black PCB) does not have onboard VGA. ALL come with optional onboard Audio. You have to specify that you don't want mobo with onboard Audio, usually the one without onboard Audio is specified as WOA (Without Audio) __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-16-2001, 03:08 PM	#4
Perry_abx Modulator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Paul, MN - USA Posts: 5,912	Welcome to the forum Verbal. I agree with MR on the 256MB Rev2. See if they will let you exchange it. The Mushkin Rev2 will do better than Crucial for overclocking! Hey MR... did I hear somebody say "Mushkin Rules"? __________________ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066, Palit 9600GT Sonic, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1600, 250GB Seagate, 250GB Maxtor, Lite-On XJ-HD166, NEC ND-2510A, Antec SLK3700BQE, Antec SP-500, LG L226WT Widescreen
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06-16-2001, 04:14 PM	#5
patentman Modded Person Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 2,281	Yes a CUSL2 or C will let you set the memory timings at CAS2 whatever the module`s SPD is programmed to. Hmm,early rev2 128Mb modules may run at 133 CAS2 but not sure how much more memory bus at CAS2 Buy first the mobo,then see if you need a mem upgrade-Rev2 256 or rev3(128) is a good choise.
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06-16-2001, 04:27 PM	#7
patentman Modded Person Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 2,281	Yep,site doesn`t work for me.Thanks God I`ve already have that beast!! Hope it will be soon fixed. __________________ P4C800-E DELUXE, 3.2E D0 218FSB 1:1 2.5 2368 (up to 240 stable 5:4), Zalman CNPS7000B Al-Cu, 2x512 TwinMos PC3200, Chieftec LBX-03, Chieftec HPC-420, 2x WD1600JD Raid 0, 2x WD800JD RAID 0, WD1200JB, WD800BB, NEC ND3500A, 6800LE, AverMedia TvStudio 303, Zoom 56K, USR9105, SB Live! and and old but too modded CUSL2 !!!
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06-16-2001, 04:40 PM	#9
Perry_abx Modulator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Paul, MN - USA Posts: 5,912	16 78 ms 78 ms 72 ms den-edge-17.inet.qwest.net [205.171.16.30] 17 * * * Request timed out. Yep it's timing out here. __________________ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066, Palit 9600GT Sonic, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1600, 250GB Seagate, 250GB Maxtor, Lite-On XJ-HD166, NEC ND-2510A, Antec SLK3700BQE, Antec SP-500, LG L226WT Widescreen
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06-16-2001, 05:04 PM	#10
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	I guess I have to wait then..... __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-16-2001, 05:14 PM	#11
patentman Modded Person Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 2,281	Too bad for me that I had bought them when prices were high... ...but I have enjoyed them earlier.he he he
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06-16-2001, 05:18 PM	#12
Perry_abx Modulator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Paul, MN - USA Posts: 5,912	Tell me about it Pman! I paid $167 U.S. back in March for my 256MB stick of Rev2. Last time I checked they were selling for $119. It was still worth it though. No problems ever due to my RAM! __________________ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066, Palit 9600GT Sonic, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1600, 250GB Seagate, 250GB Maxtor, Lite-On XJ-HD166, NEC ND-2510A, Antec SLK3700BQE, Antec SP-500, LG L226WT Widescreen
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06-16-2001, 05:45 PM	#15
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	But they are still rocking your puter, aren't they patentman... __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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