New 24" Dell 2408WFP...!

[polonyc2]

what panel is that using?...it's not a TN panel so anyone know which kind it is?...specs looks nice...I also heard that the 2408WFP suffers from poor input lag which is a big negative for hard core gamers

[Wingit]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

what panel is that using?...it's not a TN panel so anyone know which kind it is?...specs looks nice...I also heard that the 2408WFP suffers from poor input lag which is a big negative for hard core gamers

S-PVA panel is what I have read, have heard the same re input lag...perhaps Bajo can offer some RL usage observations...quite a long thread at [H]ard forums on this display.

[bajo]

Originally Posted by DBoone

Ordered mine yesterday. Estimated shipping date the 17th. I can hardly wait!!

cool !
... and there's even a little known fact (that even dell tech dudes were not able to confirm).. it has built in a new SD-HC reader.. the previous models had a 2gb sd reader capacity limit..!

[DBoone]

It's beautiful! Absolutely fantastic. First wide format monitor I've had and the image is excellent! I've been looking at some of my digital pics from the last couple of years and they look so much better on the new monitor. No bad/stuck pixels and I'm not noticing much if any red tint. I'm very happy with it so far, even if has been hooked up for less than 2 hours!

[bajo]

...told'ya !

[XJ.]

Originally Posted by Wingit

S-PVA panel is what I have read, have heard the same re input lag...perhaps Bajo can offer some RL usage observations...quite a long thread at [H]ard forums on this display.

Well S-PVA panels aren't as fast as good TN panels, but they look incredible for graphics work and movies. There's always a trade off.

[Wingit]

Originally Posted by XJ.

Well S-PVA panels aren't as fast as good TN panels, but they look incredible for graphics work and movies. There's always a trade off.

Exactly...polony had commented on input lag for hard core gamers and TN panels, warts and all, are the fastest for gaming usually.

[polonyc2]

actually S-IPS panels are generally considered the best overall LCD technology for image quality, color accuracy and viewing angles...but they also suffer from high input lag, and higher response times then TN panels

that's what I hate about the current LCD technology...you have to compromise with some feature(s)...there isn't one particular LCD that has all the best features all in one

TN panels are currently the best for gaming but you have to suffer through poor color reproduction, especially blacks...and blacks are used extensively in high end PC games...also TN panels don't offer 8 bit panels

that's why I'm gonna stick with my high end 21' CRT for as long as I can...I would buy a high end refurbished CRT over any current LCD

LCD's are still not the way to go for high end gamers

[traveler]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

[snip]

that's why I'm gonna stick with my high end 21' CRT for as long as I can...I would buy a high end refurbished CRT over any current LCD

LCD's are still not the way to go for high end gamers

Wrong!!!!!!!

That's a trade off right there!

I will not play a game unless I play it in widescreen format. High end gaming to me means -----> widescreen; don't settle for anything less. See all that you can see! You are limitimg your gaming.

Go get a widescreen and you will not go back.

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by traveler

Wrong!!!!!!!

That's a trade off right there!

I will not play a game unless I play it in widescreen format. High end gaming to me means -----> widescreen; don't settle for anything less. See all that you can see! You are limitimg your gaming.

Go get a widescreen and you will not go back.

having widescreen at the expense of lesser image quality and performance is 'settling' for me...by the way they do have an excellent widescreen CRT

Amazon.com: Sony GDM-FW900 Flat Widescreen 24" FD Trinitron CRT Monitor: Computers & PC Hardware

[Wingit]

A discontinued $2,000.00 monitor?

I have to agree with traveler polony, my 22" HP2207 TN panel has been a real pleasure...is it perfect?...no, but for around $300.00 does an amazing job..I use it for Stalker, Bioshock, Oblivion, Eve Online, etc., etc, with very few glitches or lag incidents. resolution is native at 1680 x 1050, but I am able to run most games at top settings at this res, with a system not dissimiliar to yours.

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by Wingit

A discontinued $2,000.00 monitor?

but that's the point I'm trying to make...it is discontinued but it is still available now refurbished for $250-$300...a high end CRT which once cost $2000 can now be had for dirt cheap which can perform better then any current LCD without any need to compromise on anything

[Wingit]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

but that's the point I'm trying to make...it is discontinued but it is still available now refurbished for $250-$300...a high end CRT which once cost $2000 can now be had for dirt cheap which can perform better then any current LCD without any need to compromise on anything

I see, well I guess I just don't feel overly compromised, but I certainly acknowledge that each of us will pursue the tech grail to his own standards and I wish you luck in your search...I'm sure the image on the Sony must be amazing. The worst purchase I ever made btw, was a used 12 cylinder Jaguar XJS years ago using a logic somewhat in this vein, lol. What a lawn ornament! (but it looked GREAT!) J/K incidentally...not being a smartazz (mostly)

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by Wingit

I see, well I guess I just don't feel overly compromised, but I certainly acknowledge that each of us will pursue the tech grail to his own standards and I wish you luck in your search...I'm sure the image on the Sony must be amazing. The worst purchase I ever made btw, was a used 12 cylinder Jaguar XJS years ago using a logic somewhat in this vein, lol. What a lawn ornament! (but it looked GREAT!) J/K incidentally...not being a smartazz (mostly)

but you admit that your LCD does have its shortcomings...you have grown to accept those shortcomings but it doesn't mean that they are not still present...I currently run all my games at 1920 x 1200 except for Crysis which I run at 1600 x 1200 (and I literally mean all my games) with all graphical settings pretty much maxed out with at least 2x AA and 8x AF...so for me dropping down to 1680 x 1050 with poor blacks, poor viewing angles and lag issues is not worth it

like I said in another thread if I change my current monitor I want a better monitor not a worse one...hopefully LCD's will improve in the near future where ALL the best features can be had in one LCD and no one will have to sacrifice quality or other issues just for the sake of having 'widescreen'...but it looks like waiting for OLED's might be the best option

the only way LCD's became mainstream was by making CRT's unavailable

if CRT's were still being manufactured and sold in the same quantity as LCD's are now then CRT's would still be the clear choice for many people---especially hard core gamers...LCD's only started to take off after CRT manufacturer's stopped producing them

[Wingit]

It will be interesting to see what and when new display tech comes down the road, I agree. I thought long and hard before relegating my 21" Hitachi 828s to a friend who recycles comps for disadvantaged kids, but it was the right move for me. My blacks are quite good btw, I sit in front of my comp, so the viewing angle is really not an issue, and I have not experienced perceptible lag, although Crysis is probably the closest thing to a twitch game I have loaded atm (and my advanced years may have diminished my capacity to sense this ofc). Enjoy your new machine and game on!