A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ???

plainman007 · 08-18-2008, 01:35 PM

Is it possible to have a UPS inside the system cabinet ?
I have a server cabinet thats quite spacious inside.
Any Suggestions ??

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Briton · 08-18-2008, 01:45 PM

Do you have a rack mount server? If so, there are rack mountable UPS's.

APC - Smart-UPS - Product Information

We have several for our servers where I work. There's a lot of different brands that offer them, so look around.

plainman007 · 08-23-2008, 01:41 PM

Hi,

Thanks.
Tried your link.
I dont think that was an internal UPS anyway.
By internal i mean in the CPU cabinet.
Not sure how rackmount figures there.
Im looking for a UPS for a field based server system.
Its a travelling system and i wanted to know if the ups could be built in.

placebo · 11-17-2008, 02:42 PM

If you have a non-rackmountable battery already you can use a shelf. Here's one that I use the 7206-FR-A32HD* from a company called Great Lakes.

If you don't already have a battery APC, Eaton and TripLite all make rackmount batteries. They are heavy as heck but look quite nice when installed and you don't have to worry about by-pass airflow.

Rick_EE · 11-17-2008, 03:20 PM

Do you mean in the case?

A cabinet usually means this.

Server Rack: Server Racks and Server Cabinets from Rackmount Solutions

metalman · 12-03-2008, 05:23 AM

i would think if you got the room and and can let it vent if it has fans in the ups , then all you would have to do is some sheet metal work to bolt it down and then run your cables , it would be not stranger then the guy i know who put a eq/ amp board in a drive bay on his system and ran it off the power supply .

plainman007 · 12-05-2008, 02:27 AM

Rick EE > I mean inside the server ATX cabinet.

Metalman > Yes i thought about that. But i invested in a $200 server ATX cabinet and wouldnt consider risking it with a sheet metal fabricator here. I posted this thread thinking there would be some other smaller options which were made for ATX cabinets internal mounting. Maybe im out of luck ?

Logic_abx · 12-05-2008, 03:25 AM

This is a first I have heard of anyone trying to install a UPS inside a computer case.

If you are quite technical, you can attempt to buy a simple UPS and take it apart. You might be able to fabricate a few hinges to secure the battery and move all the internal part of the UPS inside the CPU case.

What we normally do in this case is buy a cage that will hold the CPU and UPS inside of it. Depend on the application, you can buy a simple Mitx computer and put the UPS in a lock cage.

Rick_EE · 12-05-2008, 07:04 AM

I think the real problem would be the size of the batteries.

One thought I have had is to make a power supply with battery connectors, so you could have external batteries and integrate the UPS and PSU.

metalman · 12-22-2008, 02:52 AM

well i under stand not wanting to cut a spendy thing like that dependin on how much power you need could you put in a small apc and then run the power cable out a card port ?much less cuttin and its only knock out plates but you would have to come up with a mount to keep it from floating around but some simple brackets should do that .

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plainman007 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 438	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? Hi, Thanks. Tried your link. I dont think that was an internal UPS anyway. By internal i mean in the CPU cabinet. Not sure how rackmount figures there. Im looking for a UPS for a field based server system. Its a travelling system and i wanted to know if the ups could be built in.
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placebo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? If you have a non-rackmountable battery already you can use a shelf. Here's one that I use the 7206-FR-A32HD* from a company called Great Lakes. If you don't already have a battery APC, Eaton and TripLite all make rackmount batteries. They are heavy as heck but look quite nice when installed and you don't have to worry about by-pass airflow.
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Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? Do you mean in the case? A cabinet usually means this. Server Rack: Server Racks and Server Cabinets from Rackmount Solutions
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12-03-2008, 05:23 AM	#6
metalman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? i would think if you got the room and and can let it vent if it has fans in the ups , then all you would have to do is some sheet metal work to bolt it down and then run your cables , it would be not stranger then the guy i know who put a eq/ amp board in a drive bay on his system and ran it off the power supply .
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12-05-2008, 02:27 AM	#7
plainman007 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 438	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? Rick EE > I mean inside the server ATX cabinet. Metalman > Yes i thought about that. But i invested in a $200 server ATX cabinet and wouldnt consider risking it with a sheet metal fabricator here. I posted this thread thinking there would be some other smaller options which were made for ATX cabinets internal mounting. Maybe im out of luck ?
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Logic_abx Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Burnaby, British columbia Posts: 1,154	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? This is a first I have heard of anyone trying to install a UPS inside a computer case. If you are quite technical, you can attempt to buy a simple UPS and take it apart. You might be able to fabricate a few hinges to secure the battery and move all the internal part of the UPS inside the CPU case. What we normally do in this case is buy a cage that will hold the CPU and UPS inside of it. Depend on the application, you can buy a simple Mitx computer and put the UPS in a lock cage. __________________ You Learn Nothing, by Doing Nothing.
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Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? I think the real problem would be the size of the batteries. One thought I have had is to make a power supply with battery connectors, so you could have external batteries and integrate the UPS and PSU.
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metalman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5	Re: A UPS inside a server cabinet , posssible ??? well i under stand not wanting to cut a spendy thing like that dependin on how much power you need could you put in a small apc and then run the power cable out a card port ?much less cuttin and its only knock out plates but you would have to come up with a mount to keep it from floating around but some simple brackets should do that .
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