Linux on Apple???

speedaddict150 · 07-21-2004, 02:36 PM

I will soon be purchasing a old Powerbook G3, Is it possible to run Windows XP on this notebook? I know this sounds crazy but I really dont feel like buying
OS X, and all I want this notebook for is surfing the web and instant messenger. Or would Red Hat be a possible solution? any and all input is much appreciated.

Brian · 07-21-2004, 02:44 PM

I don't think it would work. I am not really that familiar with Apple but it is so proprietary and so specifically made with Apple's OS in mind, I don't think Windows XP would even recognize any of the hardware.

But I was wrong once, so if anyone else can add any input?

:wave2:

PCBruiser · 07-21-2004, 02:48 PM

There is at least one version of Linux for the Apple, not sure how good it is at all, not being much of either an Apple or Linux expert for sure. Here:

http://penguinppc.org/

pointreyes · 07-21-2004, 02:48 PM

Well, you can run OS X (not talking about Darwin) through an emulator on an x86 proc but I'm not sure if someone out there has done that the other way around.

Why not use OS X, it's BSD based whereas Linux is not.

garnet_abx · 07-21-2004, 02:51 PM

Yes, using Virtual PC 6.1. I had one of our Apple notebooks at our office running win XP using Virtual PC. It seemed to be just like running it on a PC.

Brian · 07-21-2004, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garnet

Yes, using Virtual PC 6.1. I had one of our Apple notebooks at our office running win XP using Virtual PC. It seemed to be just like running it on a PC.

Well, there ya go! My favourite Bluenoser to the rescue!

**k0NG0** · 07-21-2004, 02:55 PM

http://www.apple.com/macosx/applications/virtualpc/

You do need OS X for it, though, and it's gonna cost you (unless you 'stumble upon' it.) I read it runs XP nicely.

Slooooower than Garnet I see. Ah well.

**k0NG0** · 07-21-2004, 02:58 PM

Check this out as well:

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-install.xml
http://www.desertsol.com/~kevin/ppc/

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppc.php3

http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html

http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/

speedaddict150 · 07-21-2004, 02:59 PM

I dont really want to buy OS X for $100

**k0NG0** · 07-21-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedaddict150

I dont really want to buy OS X for $100

Then I guess Linux is your poison...

dust_abx · 07-21-2004, 03:02 PM

Hi all,

I hate to say it, but if you emulate Windows XP under Mac OS X on a G3 laptop, well... You're going to die. Like seriously. They'll find your corpse twisted between making the ctrl-alt-delete and ctrl-apple button-esc key combinations after notepad stalls out for the kajillionth time.

if I were you I would go with yellow dog linux, available here:
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

I've had a little bit of experiance with it, and always found it easy to use. It's a solid, polished product, and it has excellent hardware compatablity.

speedaddict150 · 07-21-2004, 03:29 PM

I have never used linux before, will i be able to run programs like NAV 2004 and Zonealarm pro for security?

PCBruiser · 07-21-2004, 03:31 PM

No, neither run under Linux. There are other alternatives, but one of the Linux experts will have to give you more info on those security issues. You might want to check out the Linux threads here for a lot more info on Linux itself. If you want I can move this thread over to the Linux Forum and change the title for you to asking about Linux on an Apple.

speedaddict150 · 07-21-2004, 03:56 PM

thanx

PCBruiser · 07-21-2004, 04:02 PM

Done.

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07-21-2004, 02:44 PM	#2
Brian See ya! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6,000	I don't think it would work. I am not really that familiar with Apple but it is so proprietary and so specifically made with Apple's OS in mind, I don't think Windows XP would even recognize any of the hardware. But I was wrong once, so if anyone else can add any input? :wave2:
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PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	There is at least one version of Linux for the Apple, not sure how good it is at all, not being much of either an Apple or Linux expert for sure. Here: http://penguinppc.org/
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pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	Well, you can run OS X (not talking about Darwin) through an emulator on an x86 proc but I'm not sure if someone out there has done that the other way around. Why not use OS X, it's BSD based whereas Linux is not.
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k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,750	http://www.apple.com/macosx/applications/virtualpc/ You do need OS X for it, though, and it's gonna cost you (unless you 'stumble upon' it.) I read it runs XP nicely. Slooooower than Garnet I see. Ah well. __________________ Use Firefox - "the one that blocks all the schmutz" Feeling multicore elation? Remember this correlation: Amdahl's Law. Last edited by k0NG0; 07-21-2004 at 02:55 PM.. Reason: Slooooooooooooooooooow
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k0NG0 Remembering TQ Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 13,750	Check this out as well: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-install.xml http://www.desertsol.com/~kevin/ppc/ http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppc.php3 http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ __________________ Use Firefox - "the one that blocks all the schmutz" Feeling multicore elation? Remember this correlation: Amdahl's Law.
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speedaddict150 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 65	$$$ I dont really want to buy OS X for $100
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dust_abx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 43	Hi all, I hate to say it, but if you emulate Windows XP under Mac OS X on a G3 laptop, well... You're going to die. Like seriously. They'll find your corpse twisted between making the ctrl-alt-delete and ctrl-apple button-esc key combinations after notepad stalls out for the kajillionth time. if I were you I would go with yellow dog linux, available here: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ I've had a little bit of experiance with it, and always found it easy to use. It's a solid, polished product, and it has excellent hardware compatablity.
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07-21-2004, 03:29 PM	#12
speedaddict150 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 65	Linux is looking better and better I have never used linux before, will i be able to run programs like NAV 2004 and Zonealarm pro for security?
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07-21-2004, 03:31 PM	#13
PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	No, neither run under Linux. There are other alternatives, but one of the Linux experts will have to give you more info on those security issues. You might want to check out the Linux threads here for a lot more info on Linux itself. If you want I can move this thread over to the Linux Forum and change the title for you to asking about Linux on an Apple.
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07-21-2004, 03:56 PM	#14
speedaddict150 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 65	Please do thanx
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07-21-2004, 04:02 PM	#15
PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	Done.
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