Is Vista supposed to be this buggy?

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 08:13 AM

I just started using Windows Vista Home Premium and have had an endless amount of bugs and glitches. I recently bought an ASUS G1 but returned it because of these bugs and glitches and because I thought the hardware was causing them. I now have a Gateway FX7020 and low and behold, Im having some of the same bugs! This made me start to think that it was my OS not my hardware. My screen has frozen up twice, to the point where i had to force shutdown, almost all of my games have crashed at least once when they were running fine (Crysis, UT3, Counter Strike Source) I think im going to switch back to XP but wanted some opinions first. THX!

TQ · 02-14-2008, 08:26 AM

What does the big red button do?

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ

What does the big red button do?

Its a nickname for the power button.

I should have said "to the point of where i had to force shutdown"

3 of 7 · 02-14-2008, 08:47 AM

We have 2 Laptops here that came with Vista and I nuked em both and put XP on em, be warned that you need to do your homework first. Find all the drivers you need before you start...
I have Home premium on my main rig to play with and I thought SP1 had solved all the glitches but I'm still having a few (not crashes, mind you)

zman88 · 02-14-2008, 08:53 AM

I also have a G1S , but I switched to ultimate 64 bit. I have no problems and didn't have any with home premium that I was aware of. However, I installed xp pro sp2 with intel matrix drivers slipsteamed to see how it would run , but ran into a road block finding video divers for the 8600m\go. Tried every driver I could find with no luck for a week. So do your research before waisting your time.

John

TQ · 02-14-2008, 09:49 AM

Doing any overclocking on your system?

SRTDodge05 · 02-14-2008, 09:51 AM

Being thats a OEM he cant oc it. If your not using Vista approved software, games, driver, etc your will have system lockups and restarts. As for your games not working you mite need to get the latest update patch for them.

DutchBBQ · 02-14-2008, 10:19 AM

Well, I've a Thinkpad with Vista pre-installed.

Just problems.

So, I UPGRADED to XP Pro SP2 and since then....

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 10:28 AM

I have a seperate partition for all my drivers so the transfer should be pretty flawless.

*johnrr6* · 02-14-2008, 10:42 AM

Vista Ultimate 32 bit

Q6600 overclocked to 3.2Ghz

Abit Quad GT 965 mobo

4-drive RAID 5

8800 GTX

4 gigs of RAM

Soundblaster x-Fi

have NOT moved to SP1 yet

No major bugs or driver issues-----nada-----zip....and it has been (at least for me) a VERY solid operating system from first load.....

Occasionally, (maybe once a week) I will get a "Com" service failure----or another service will fail but this is invariably after I have done something like load a new program or a windows update....

A simple reboot solves the problem immediately.....

My complaints with Vista were all about snappiness and bloat and the way everything is THERE----but it is all in a DIFFERENT PLACE now----or called something different.....

But I have 7 machines now on Vista including 2 laptops......

And I have to tell you that patches HAVE improved the snappiness....

And it DOES grow on you once you get over the initial learning curve....

And you turn off UAC!!!!

I'm hoping that SP1 helps even more......

I don't think it will ever be the "Hit" Microsoft was hoping for....

But I think with time and effort------it will evolve into a pretty darn good operating system....

Just like XP did after SP2.

The total problem with Vista has been it's high hardware requirements. if you don't have machines with a lot of juice.....fuggeeddaboutit

Unlike XP, which was a NICE upgrade for schools and businesses with most of their CURRENT hardware----Vista requires a whole new paradighm when it comes to hardware......

And that's why I think Schools and Businesses have shied away-----purely a financial decision-----and any benifits are just not compelling enough to justify the overall cost.....

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 10:51 AM

I know some people have had no problems with it, thats what made me take my hardware into consideration, but everything checks in right and thats what makes me think its Vista not my hardware.

SRTDodge05 · 02-14-2008, 11:09 AM

If this is your second machine with vista on it and your still having trouble its the not hardware.

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRTDodge05

If this is your second machine with vista on it and your still having trouble its the not hardware.

Thats exactly what I took into mind.

SRTDodge05 · 02-14-2008, 11:17 AM

If you have a restore disk i would reload and remove all that junk oem's install and then start installing your programs a few at a time.

jaketerminate · 02-14-2008, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRTDodge05

If you have a restore disk i would reload and remove all that junk oem's install and then start installing your programs a few at a time.

Thanks for the advice, I have two restore disks, one for Vista and one for XP Media Center.

02-14-2008, 08:13 AM	#1
jaketerminate Maximum Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 919	Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? I just started using Windows Vista Home Premium and have had an endless amount of bugs and glitches. I recently bought an ASUS G1 but returned it because of these bugs and glitches and because I thought the hardware was causing them. I now have a Gateway FX7020 and low and behold, Im having some of the same bugs! This made me start to think that it was my OS not my hardware. My screen has frozen up twice, to the point where i had to force shutdown, almost all of my games have crashed at least once when they were running fine (Crysis, UT3, Counter Strike Source) I think im going to switch back to XP but wanted some opinions first. THX! __________________ "Mozart" Rig #1 Case: Thermaltake Mozart TX Mobo: Asus P5N-E CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4ghz Memory: 4GB (2x 2GB) G.Skill DDR2 Hard Drive: 320 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Video Card: EVGA Nvidia 9800GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) Power Supply: 600W OCZ StealthXStream OS: Windows XP Homee Edition and Ubuntu Linux x64 Monitor: 22" Westinghouse LCD and 2 Dell CRTs HP G60t CPU: Intel Pentium 2.0ghz Memory: 4GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta + Ubuntu Linux HP Pavillion tx 2000z Tablet CPU: AMD Turion x2 2.1Ghz Memory: 3GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: ATI Radeon 3200 64mb OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta 1TB Seagate External Backup Drive Last edited by jaketerminate; 02-14-2008 at 08:34 AM..
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02-14-2008, 08:26 AM	#2
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02-14-2008, 08:47 AM	#4
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,677	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? We have 2 Laptops here that came with Vista and I nuked em both and put XP on em, be warned that you need to do your homework first. Find all the drivers you need before you start... I have Home premium on my main rig to play with and I thought SP1 had solved all the glitches but I'm still having a few (not crashes, mind you)
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02-14-2008, 08:53 AM	#5
zman88 I'll race the truck! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: NH Posts: 491	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? I also have a G1S , but I switched to ultimate 64 bit. I have no problems and didn't have any with home premium that I was aware of. However, I installed xp pro sp2 with intel matrix drivers slipsteamed to see how it would run , but ran into a road block finding video divers for the 8600m\go. Tried every driver I could find with no luck for a week. So do your research before waisting your time. John __________________ Turn Left,Go Fast I spend most of my money on wild women,booze and computers....... The rest I just waste!
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02-14-2008, 09:49 AM	#6
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? Doing any overclocking on your system? __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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02-14-2008, 09:51 AM	#7
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02-14-2008, 10:19 AM	#8
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02-14-2008, 10:28 AM	#9
jaketerminate Maximum Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 919	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? I have a seperate partition for all my drivers so the transfer should be pretty flawless. __________________ "Mozart" Rig #1 Case: Thermaltake Mozart TX Mobo: Asus P5N-E CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4ghz Memory: 4GB (2x 2GB) G.Skill DDR2 Hard Drive: 320 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Video Card: EVGA Nvidia 9800GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) Power Supply: 600W OCZ StealthXStream OS: Windows XP Homee Edition and Ubuntu Linux x64 Monitor: 22" Westinghouse LCD and 2 Dell CRTs HP G60t CPU: Intel Pentium 2.0ghz Memory: 4GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta + Ubuntu Linux HP Pavillion tx 2000z Tablet CPU: AMD Turion x2 2.1Ghz Memory: 3GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: ATI Radeon 3200 64mb OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta 1TB Seagate External Backup Drive
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02-14-2008, 10:42 AM	#10
johnrr6 Lucky Amateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,911	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? Vista Ultimate 32 bit Q6600 overclocked to 3.2Ghz Abit Quad GT 965 mobo 4-drive RAID 5 8800 GTX 4 gigs of RAM Soundblaster x-Fi have NOT moved to SP1 yet No major bugs or driver issues-----nada-----zip....and it has been (at least for me) a VERY solid operating system from first load..... Occasionally, (maybe once a week) I will get a "Com" service failure----or another service will fail but this is invariably after I have done something like load a new program or a windows update.... A simple reboot solves the problem immediately..... My complaints with Vista were all about snappiness and bloat and the way everything is THERE----but it is all in a DIFFERENT PLACE now----or called something different..... But I have 7 machines now on Vista including 2 laptops...... And I have to tell you that patches HAVE improved the snappiness.... And it DOES grow on you once you get over the initial learning curve.... And you turn off UAC!!!! I'm hoping that SP1 helps even more...... I don't think it will ever be the "Hit" Microsoft was hoping for.... But I think with time and effort------it will evolve into a pretty darn good operating system.... Just like XP did after SP2. The total problem with Vista has been it's high hardware requirements. if you don't have machines with a lot of juice.....fuggeeddaboutit Unlike XP, which was a NICE upgrade for schools and businesses with most of their CURRENT hardware----Vista requires a whole new paradighm when it comes to hardware...... And that's why I think Schools and Businesses have shied away-----purely a financial decision-----and any benifits are just not compelling enough to justify the overall cost..... __________________ i7 920 @ 3.5 Ghz Win 7 Ultimate Edition 64 Bit Asus P6T Deluxe, BIOS 1701 Vigor Monsoon III LT 6 x 2 Gig Mushkin PC12800 ATI HD 4870 X2 2 x 500 Gig Seagate SATA II HDs in RAID 0 Samsung SATA TruDirect DVD Burner w/Lightscribe Seasonic 600W PSU Creative X-Fi Titanium sound Lian Li AO5B Black Case Hauppage 1800 TV Card
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02-14-2008, 10:51 AM	#11
jaketerminate Maximum Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 919	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? I know some people have had no problems with it, thats what made me take my hardware into consideration, but everything checks in right and thats what makes me think its Vista not my hardware. __________________ "Mozart" Rig #1 Case: Thermaltake Mozart TX Mobo: Asus P5N-E CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4ghz Memory: 4GB (2x 2GB) G.Skill DDR2 Hard Drive: 320 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Video Card: EVGA Nvidia 9800GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) Power Supply: 600W OCZ StealthXStream OS: Windows XP Homee Edition and Ubuntu Linux x64 Monitor: 22" Westinghouse LCD and 2 Dell CRTs HP G60t CPU: Intel Pentium 2.0ghz Memory: 4GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta + Ubuntu Linux HP Pavillion tx 2000z Tablet CPU: AMD Turion x2 2.1Ghz Memory: 3GB Hard Drive: 250GB 5400RPM GPU: ATI Radeon 3200 64mb OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta 1TB Seagate External Backup Drive
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02-14-2008, 11:09 AM	#12
SRTDodge05 Grab Life By The Balls Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,835	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? If this is your second machine with vista on it and your still having trouble its the not hardware.
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02-14-2008, 11:17 AM	#14
SRTDodge05 Grab Life By The Balls Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,835	Re: Is Vista supposed to be this buggy? If you have a restore disk i would reload and remove all that junk oem's install and then start installing your programs a few at a time.
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