AntiVir, Avast, AVG, NOD32 and Kaspersky test update

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by pointreyes

The snide remarks are getting rather tiresome to read through. Instead of using this form of language to commuciate, how about we try to use some professional talk about this subject? Oh and BTW anymore unpleasant commentary that is used to insult any person on this thread will lead to a 'cooling' down period.

I think I'm going to take that cooling period on my own. I'll be back sometime next week to answers questions, discuss this further and take constructive criticism. Have a nice weekend..err...Sunday...

[Conan]

Originally Posted by wayne

FastGame,

Please edit your post.

ABXZone.com Forum Rules


-wayne

I don't see anything wrong with his post.

[ABoard]

Originally Posted by FastGame

I suppose this is one of them ? Alert - eXtendia AVK Pro Failure Under DEP

I'm amazed that such a well written scientific journal received such little response

So what's the problem Mr ABoard ? you feel the sheep are following the wrong Shepard ? are you looking for your flock ?

BTW I'm impressed with the car crash test, I just don't have much faith in crash test because there's a dummy behind the wheel.

Porsche 911 and AVAST make a good combo

I have no idea why you think the contents of that post can be likened to anything in this thread. I posted an incompatibility of MY specific antivirus software with a new component of Windows XP SP2 (namely Data Execution Prevention). The post dealt with that specific issue alone and cannot be construed by anyone (I doubt even you) as an attempt to present a review and analysis of that AV software's capabilities in general. I still use the same software, by the way, but I have excluded it from DEP and all is well.

To quote from the last paragraph of that post:

"Anyway, I felt compelled to post this alert out of general concern, but also because I have posted once to this forum recommending eXtendia AVK Pro as an alternative to more well known AV applications."

There was no other reason for the post except to cover anyone who may have tried Extendia because of me (unlikely, but possible). The post you refer to required no response. I don't personally know anyone that uses Extendia AVK besides me (and only one other on this forum that I've seen mention it), so a response of any kind wasn't necessarily expected.

All cards are on the table. I don't have an "ulterior" motive for the criticism, and certainly not one as lame as you suggest (i.e., I'm trying to steer a "flock" of AV devotees to my [non-existent-except-in-your-mind] reviews of antivirus software).

If you want to find something to shoot me with, I'm sure you can with just a little more effort. But, that "smoking gun" you posted certainly isn't it.



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By the way, the post where I recommended Extendia AVK is in the following thread which asked for user opinions of alternative AV software; actual testing was not intended, implied or expected. I related briefly my experiences with the software the author of the thread had tried or was interested in and then gave an alternative (I jumped in and gave my two cents in two minutes, then moved on):

Time for AV change

[wallijonn]

ABoard,

Thanks for the Kerio settings. It is much appreciated.

[ABoard]

Originally Posted by wallijonn

ABoard,

Thanks for the Kerio settings. It is much appreciated.

You're welcome. Wasn't sure if you actually were still using Kerio or had used it in the past but had given it up.

[wallijonn]

No, I really like Kerio. It does what I want (even though the logs show the usual port scans, trojans, etc.) I have tightened security by setting everything to "Deny", setting the DSL built in firewall to "high," using a HOSTS file, McAfee, Spyware Blaster, worm guard (even though McAfee has worm guard builkt in), webmail, a Limited / Restricted account, etc.

I've tried Outpost, McAfee Guard Dog, ZoneAlarm and Sygate. Kerio is the one I like best.

I tend to switch to Ubuntu and Shorewall unless I am working on a project which needs Windows (like now where I am burning security software (anti-virus freeware, anti spyware, anti trojan, anti worm, anti bho, firewalls, Windows Security Patches, port scanner detectors, FireFox, Thunderbird, etc.)) Or when playing games.

For plain surfing I prefer Ubuntu Linux. It just plain looks better. I had to do a lot of tweaking to make W2KP and WXPP Firefox look anywhere as good as Ubuntu.

Again, thanks.

[Finalheaven]

So, have we decided what the best FREE solution and the best PAID solution is, for AV software?

I'd like to know.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by Finalheaven

So, have we decided what the best FREE solution and the best PAID solution is, for AV software?

I'd like to know.

There's no "BEST". There is a "best for you". Ultimately, this is one you need to answer for yourself. I tried to find holes in each application, nothing less, nothing more. You can't trust one source for how good an application is anyway. Next update is coming soon. You'll see that things won't be so clear anymore

[Sentinel]

An update is coming (better late than never...). I had some major DSL problems, which left me with two options: either scrap what I had started before the Holidays, or append the new tests to my results. I chose the latter. Since it still isn't a detection rate test, it hardly matters IMO. Dates will be included in any case.

New tools and tests will be included as well

Before you dump or praise any product, please keep in mind that this is only one set of tests. Other sources need to be taken into consideration (incl. overall detection rates), notwithstanding your own needs. All products have flaws. Things might not be so clear when you see my new results...

Edit:

Added products:

Tech-Protect (F-Prot for DOS)
F-Prot for Windows
Ewido
a²
Prevx Home

[muni_abx]

In the last AV review I read, I think that f-secure did the best job. Most of the softs are good in finding viruses but not so with trojan horses or spyware.
And then for small business, most of the AV softs don't work well if the user has not administrator rights (for updates). I see it here with Norton.

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

Kaspersky: Passed/Failed removal* 5.0.227

Reaction time could be better and Kaspersky leaves behind NTFS Streams after it is removed. You will need a third party tool to clean this up if you move to another product. Worked as expected otherwise. *Removal not available with trial.

Edit: Kaspersky apparently offers a NTFS Streams (ADS tags) removal tool "KLStreamRemover" if required.

I am currently using Kaspersky and I heard about these alarming ADS tags that it leaves behind after uninstall....I went to Kaspersky's website to download the removal tool but don't quite understand the directions of use...

To clean additional data streams (ADS tags) on NTFS partitions you need to do the following:

-download packed utility Klstreamremover.zip extract the file into root folder of the partition, where you plan to clean ADS

-run Klstreamremover.exe with parameter -r (for example go to menu Start -> Run -> here type c:\klstreamremover.exe -r and press Enter)

-wait until the utility finishes working

when they say "extract the file into root folder of the partition, where you plan to clean ADS" which folder are they talking about??

-I heard of another good program that will also do this called NTFS Streams Eraser but I can't seem to find this anywhere

[subman]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

when they say "extract the file into root folder of the partition, where you plan to clean ADS" which folder are they talking about??

Root is the first directory you see on a drive\partition like in attached pic where the root directory of my first partition is C:\ which has been highlit BLUE similarly for the second partition\drive it would be D:\

EDIT: If you want to see this location from RUN type in CMD <ENTER> and then in the window type CD\ <ENTER> and you will be in the root directory of that particular Drive\partition.

[polonyc2]

Originally Posted by subman

Root is the first directory you see on a drive\partition like in attached pic where the root directory of my first partition is C:\ which has been highlit BLUE similarly for the second partition\drive it would be D:\

I only have a single C partition...when I go into my C: drive folder, the first folder also seems to be "Documents and Settings"...so does that mean that I have to extract the above file into my "Documents and Settings" folder??...or do I have to extract into the C: by itself and not in any particular folder??...if thats the case will it let me extract the file like that, won't it ask me where in the C: I want the file extracted??

[subman]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

I only have a single C partition...when I go into my C: drive folder, the first folder also seems to be "Documents and Settings"...so does that mean that I have to extract the above file into my "Documents and Settings" folder??

I added an EDIT to my above post - that should explain it a bit more

[subman]

Originally Posted by polonyc2

I only have a single C partition...when I go into my C: drive folder, the first folder also seems to be "Documents and Settings"...so does that mean that I have to extract the above file into my "Documents and Settings" folder??...or do I have to extract into the C: by itself and not in any particular folder??...if thats the case will it let me extract the file like that, won't it ask me where in the C: I want the file extracted??

the C: itself without any directory name after it is the root folder.