Official Eve-Online ABX Corp thread - Page 25

Rick_EE · 12-05-2005, 01:36 PM

Looks like I should train my manufacturing skills and get into the Caracal business. Seems to be a demand.

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Underwater Mike · 12-05-2005, 01:42 PM

Heck, the ship is the least of my worries. I got nailed in losing a bunch of T2 and named fittings.

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Originally Posted by Rick_EE

Looks like I should train my manufacturing skills and get into the Caracal business. Seems to be a demand.

Wingit · 12-06-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Underwater Mike

Caracal came off an accel gate into the Ignoitten Serpentis complex 15km directly underneath one of the CUL guys in a Harpy. He webbed, scrambled and shot me up before I could even turn to warp out. Even with a painter, the range was too close for my heavies to dent him. Then he tried to pod me, but I got out with half pod structure. Total loss about 11 million.

I think that I will stay in frigates until I get my skills up.

Ya got Cultured.....

.....and became ------>

Underwater Mike · 12-06-2005, 07:57 AM

Someone has a bit too much time on his hands! Go do some mining!

Rick_EE · 12-07-2005, 08:57 AM

The lowdown on red moon rising.

Qba73 · 12-07-2005, 10:39 AM

oh man get ready, jetcan revenge

Rick_EE · 12-08-2005, 03:10 PM

I put a set of insta book marks for traveling from poinen via jita to faurent in the corp hangars at faurent and poinen. Instas or near instas. I went from faurent to poinen in about 6 min

They are under the research tab.

Qba73 · 12-08-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick_EE

I put a set of insta book marks for traveling from poinen via jita to faurent in the corp hangars at faurent and poinen. Instas or near instas. I went from faurent to poinen in about 6 min

They are under the research tab.

rick can you get me a insta from my house to starbucks ..

Rick_EE · 12-13-2005, 06:40 AM

omber in artisiene has regened today.

Underwater Mike · 12-13-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick_EE

omber in artisiene has regened today.

Yup, looks like every TUE, although that may change after the patch.

Underwater Mike · 12-13-2005, 08:25 AM

Guys,

We need to discuss joining an alliance. We’ve had two offers: from ISS and from FOUNDATION. I’ve tabled the ISS guy for now but I told the FOUNDATION dude that we’d give him an answer by FRI.

As I see it, there are three basic benefits of joining an alliance.

1) Access to 0.0 space. This would also allow us to use alliance member stations until we put up our own. We still have to deal with NPCs and pirates, but we would have some help ratting. We’d also keep a couple bases in Empire, for buying and selling.

2) Controlled access to PvP, and assistance with training. FOUNDATION is currently at war with Veritas, trying to open up the Great Wildlands to unfettered access. (In fact, this is FOUNDATION’s stated reason for existence.) They’ve retreated to Red Alliance space to regroup and recruit, but the hostilities are continuing – which means that there’s immediate opportunities for both fleet and skirmish activity. SS and I stressed to the alliance contact (Eriqeu) that we need help with PvP training, and he assured us that we will get it.

3) Added benefit of negotiated NAPs with potentially hostile groups. I requested a FoF list for the alliance and will share when I get it. The umbrella pacts negotiated with the alliance cover all the individual corps. Unfortunately, so do the declared hostilities!

The key costs:

4) ISK. 75 million to join and 1 million per month per corp member ongoing. (FYI, this compares to 25 million upfront and 25 million a month for ISS.) Personally, I don’t think the funds are an issue, especially since some 0.0 mining should recoup that quickly. The key is whether we’re spending the money wisely.

Right now, the upfront fee is being used to pay off the 1 billion alliance formation fee. I have no problem with that, as long as we are listed as a founding member or something. Enrique also promised that they’re building a BPO library and are working toward providing free frigate-level ships to member corps, but I’ll believe that when I see it happen.

5) Gaining allies means gaining enemies. Picking a side paints a target on your back when there are hostilities. The trade-off is that at least one side is your friend, instead of having everyone hunt you.

To me, we have to answer these questions among ourselves before making a decision:

Do we want to go to 0.0? Going in doesn’t mean that we have to stay there all the time, but joining an alliance is not something we want to do on a weekly basis. Once we’re in, we’re in. But no one will babysit us while we’re there, so if anyone doesn’t feel ready, we shouldn’t do it.

Do we have a preference for which part of the map we’re on? Great Wildlands is near southeast, right under Minmatar space. Personally, I could care less where we go, but if anyone has a strong preference we need to consider that. Current map is here.

Let’s start the discussion ASAP. Also, if you have any questions that you want to ask Eriqeu, please post them here.

Rick_EE · 12-13-2005, 12:29 PM

I am willing to go further. I have a hard time commiting large blocks of uninterrupted time. I can mine, because it lets me do other things.

I will follow whatever the corp wants to do.

Underwater Mike · 12-13-2005, 12:37 PM

That sounds fine -- one of the opportunities he mentioned will be for manufacturing.

phalinx · 12-13-2005, 04:05 PM

Looks like a node went down somewhere. I was mining in Art blt 5 and was being attacked by serps at the time.....I hope the Ossie is still intact...

Cheers

Phalinx

Underwater Mike · 12-13-2005, 04:06 PM

1704 EST Status: Proxy Not Connected
MOTD: "We're investigating what happened."

I wonder if CCP is actually a business with profit goals, or just a tax write-off for a rich kid and his pals to play online games?

12-05-2005, 01:36 PM	#361
Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	Looks like I should train my manufacturing skills and get into the Caracal business. Seems to be a demand.
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12-06-2005, 07:57 AM	#364
Underwater Mike Thoroughly water-cooled Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere, beyond the sea Posts: 2,606	Someone has a bit too much time on his hands! Go do some mining! __________________
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12-07-2005, 08:57 AM	#365
Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	The lowdown on red moon rising.
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12-07-2005, 10:39 AM	#366
Qba73 Bench This Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of the lost Towers, NY Posts: 1,665	oh man get ready, jetcan revenge __________________ I7 920 @ 4.02Ghz 6gb Corsair Dominators P6T Deluxe BFG 285 GTX OC OCZ Powerstream 700w Samsung 2693HM 25in PS3/X360 60" Panny
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12-08-2005, 03:10 PM	#367
Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	I put a set of insta book marks for traveling from poinen via jita to faurent in the corp hangars at faurent and poinen. Instas or near instas. I went from faurent to poinen in about 6 min They are under the research tab.
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12-13-2005, 06:40 AM	#369
Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	omber in artisiene has regened today.
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12-13-2005, 08:25 AM	#371
Underwater Mike Thoroughly water-cooled Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere, beyond the sea Posts: 2,606	Alliance or not? Guys, We need to discuss joining an alliance. We’ve had two offers: from ISS and from FOUNDATION. I’ve tabled the ISS guy for now but I told the FOUNDATION dude that we’d give him an answer by FRI. As I see it, there are three basic benefits of joining an alliance. 1) Access to 0.0 space. This would also allow us to use alliance member stations until we put up our own. We still have to deal with NPCs and pirates, but we would have some help ratting. We’d also keep a couple bases in Empire, for buying and selling. 2) Controlled access to PvP, and assistance with training. FOUNDATION is currently at war with Veritas, trying to open up the Great Wildlands to unfettered access. (In fact, this is FOUNDATION’s stated reason for existence.) They’ve retreated to Red Alliance space to regroup and recruit, but the hostilities are continuing – which means that there’s immediate opportunities for both fleet and skirmish activity. SS and I stressed to the alliance contact (Eriqeu) that we need help with PvP training, and he assured us that we will get it. 3) Added benefit of negotiated NAPs with potentially hostile groups. I requested a FoF list for the alliance and will share when I get it. The umbrella pacts negotiated with the alliance cover all the individual corps. Unfortunately, so do the declared hostilities! The key costs: 4) ISK. 75 million to join and 1 million per month per corp member ongoing. (FYI, this compares to 25 million upfront and 25 million a month for ISS.) Personally, I don’t think the funds are an issue, especially since some 0.0 mining should recoup that quickly. The key is whether we’re spending the money wisely. Right now, the upfront fee is being used to pay off the 1 billion alliance formation fee. I have no problem with that, as long as we are listed as a founding member or something. Enrique also promised that they’re building a BPO library and are working toward providing free frigate-level ships to member corps, but I’ll believe that when I see it happen. 5) Gaining allies means gaining enemies. Picking a side paints a target on your back when there are hostilities. The trade-off is that at least one side is your friend, instead of having everyone hunt you. To me, we have to answer these questions among ourselves before making a decision: Do we want to go to 0.0? Going in doesn’t mean that we have to stay there all the time, but joining an alliance is not something we want to do on a weekly basis. Once we’re in, we’re in. But no one will babysit us while we’re there, so if anyone doesn’t feel ready, we shouldn’t do it. Do we have a preference for which part of the map we’re on? Great Wildlands is near southeast, right under Minmatar space. Personally, I could care less where we go, but if anyone has a strong preference we need to consider that. Current map is here. Let’s start the discussion ASAP. Also, if you have any questions that you want to ask Eriqeu, please post them here. __________________ Last edited by Underwater Mike; 12-13-2005 at 08:32 AM..
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12-13-2005, 12:29 PM	#372
Rick_EE Sent from my PC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,168	I am willing to go further. I have a hard time commiting large blocks of uninterrupted time. I can mine, because it lets me do other things. I will follow whatever the corp wants to do.
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12-13-2005, 12:37 PM	#373
Underwater Mike Thoroughly water-cooled Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere, beyond the sea Posts: 2,606	That sounds fine -- one of the opportunities he mentioned will be for manufacturing. __________________
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12-13-2005, 04:05 PM	#374
phalinx The SilentSentinel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 810	Looks like a node went down somewhere. I was mining in Art blt 5 and was being attacked by serps at the time.....I hope the Ossie is still intact... Cheers Phalinx __________________ "Few are the Heroes upon this Globe who deserve the reward of Michelob." David Blackshire FOLD FOR ABXZONE 1714
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12-13-2005, 04:06 PM	#375
Underwater Mike Thoroughly water-cooled Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere, beyond the sea Posts: 2,606	1704 EST Status: Proxy Not Connected MOTD: "We're investigating what happened." I wonder if CCP is actually a business with profit goals, or just a tax write-off for a rich kid and his pals to play online games? __________________
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