Opinions: Best current flight sims?

PeterT · 12-24-2002, 10:28 AM

I have MS FS2002pro, CFS1 & CFS2, but am looking for something new. My biggest concerns are the quality & reality of the graphics & flight model. What are the best ones currently available? Opinions?

Thanks!
Peter

gaddster · 12-24-2002, 10:30 AM

I think IL Sturmovik is regarded as a FS with a pretty accurate flight model. I've played it and it seemed pretty good to me.

yamawho · 12-24-2002, 10:47 AM

I was pondering this and it seems to be between two games Battlefield 1942 and CFS3.

I decided to get CFS3 as one of my son's xmas gifts.
It seems to offer more in terms of strategy than CFS2.
There is also supposed to be cooperative missions in CFS3.

PeterT · 12-24-2002, 01:11 PM

Thanks for the heads up on those 3, gaddster & yamawho!
Anyone else?
I know we have a few flight sim junkies here at AB!

EVCreedguy · 12-24-2002, 05:08 PM

I was always partial to the MS ones, but sometimes I'm lured to combat flight simulators though those don't seem to be as accurate as the non-combat ones.

Dintkin · 12-24-2002, 05:28 PM

i think IL-2 is the best right now. CFS3 is a bit buggy. seems to have a memory leak. if they have a fix for CFS3 i would like that better than IL-2 because you have choice of missions and planes. IL-2 if you do the german campain you only get to fly the BF109. i was wanting to try the FW190

as for graphics IL-2 is purdy. and the clouds look so cool. CFS3 isnt bad. but not as sharp.

SLM crew chief · 12-24-2002, 05:52 PM

Don't forget about the "old" Falcon 4.0. With the Superpak, it is a very realistic flight model. If you do go for it, buy it off eBay, but make sure you get the full manual. It is over 500 pages and you will be totally lost without it. The PDF for the Superpack is like another 190 pages.

PeterT · 12-24-2002, 09:57 PM

I'll give IL2 a try. I just downloaded the demo from a painfully slow server. Took forever, but I got it.

Thanks everyone!

cenkog · 12-25-2002, 07:05 PM

Don't forget "Jane's FA-18" ...Best MP flights waiting for you in HL with this really excellent & stable combat jet sim...By the way ,LOMAC coming soon...

TjF2 · 12-26-2002, 04:39 PM

Serria'a A-10 Warthog Was my first flight sim I thought it was awesome.Lost the manuel 4 Falcon 4.0 almost impossible 2play without it.

cenkog · 12-29-2002, 03:02 PM

IMO:

*Combat Jet : "Jane's FA-18 TSH 1.0", "Falcon4.0 SP3" at the moment & LOMAC is coming...

*Civil sim: FS 2002 no doubt

*WWII sim: IL-2 at the moment & by the way "Forgotten Battles" is coming ...

Wingit · 12-29-2002, 03:40 PM

WWII - IL2 Sturmovik stands head and shoulders above the rest ... graphics and otherwise... needs mucho muscle machine (but what flightsim doesn't)

Modern Jets - Falcon4 Superpack3 iteration will have no competition until Lomac (hopefully) raises the bar again. Graphics are a little dated, but not bad with the multitude of user mods (512 skins recently!)

Civil - FS2002 is prettier but supposedly X-Plane cannot be beat for flight models...don't have personal experience of X-Plane

Early Jets - StrikeFighters by Thirdwire is a work in progress....buggy as hell right now, but the develper"TK" is the force behind the old European Air War and IMHO will surmount the problems if given time and resources. "Mig Alley" by Rowan is a bargain title at this point and is well worth the few bucks expended btw. (go to SIMHQ website for enhancements and WinXP fixes)

Just my opinion

Torstein · 12-29-2002, 03:53 PM

Old but still going strong..........

My vote goes to "Flight Unlimited III" which I think stems back to the 1998 or 1999. It has the most realistic flight dynamics (except perhaps the "X-plane" according to some). FU III's scenery and weather simulation are also worth mentioning as is its ATC capability.

It is no longer obtainable through the trade but the AVSIM-forum (www.avsim.com) has pointers to sources where it can be bought.
Also over at the AVSIM-forum there are a crowd of "hard core" simmers that are designing new aircrafts and scenery.

Its biggest drawback (to some) is that the scenery is limited to the north west of US but then that scenery is more detailed and realistic than most of the add-ons for MS FS2002.

pointreyes · 12-29-2002, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Torstein
Its biggest drawback (to some) is that the scenery is limited to the north west of US but then that scenery is more detailed and realistic than most of the add-ons for MS FS2002.

Hmmm, I'm going to need to check this one out. Considering where I live, this might be fun.

PeterT · 12-29-2002, 07:41 PM

Thanks to Everyone for all the responses!

12-24-2002, 10:28 AM	#1
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,688	Opinions: Best current flight sims? I have MS FS2002pro, CFS1 & CFS2, but am looking for something new. My biggest concerns are the quality & reality of the graphics & flight model. What are the best ones currently available? Opinions? Thanks! Peter __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-24-2002, 10:30 AM	#2
gaddster Having fun... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bad Barnet Posts: 586	I think IL Sturmovik is regarded as a FS with a pretty accurate flight model. I've played it and it seemed pretty good to me. __________________ Asus P4C800E \| 730 Dothan \| 6800GT \| GSkill LA \| OCZ 520w
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12-24-2002, 10:47 AM	#3
yamawho Linux user Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 4,093	I was pondering this and it seems to be between two games Battlefield 1942 and CFS3. I decided to get CFS3 as one of my son's xmas gifts. It seems to offer more in terms of strategy than CFS2. There is also supposed to be cooperative missions in CFS3. __________________
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12-24-2002, 01:11 PM	#4
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,688	Thanks for the heads up on those 3, gaddster & yamawho! Anyone else? I know we have a few flight sim junkies here at AB! __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-24-2002, 05:08 PM	#5
EVCreedguy School oppressed Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Down the Street from Ozzie... Posts: 361	I was always partial to the MS ones, but sometimes I'm lured to combat flight simulators though those don't seem to be as accurate as the non-combat ones. __________________ Pardon me while I burst and rise above the flames...Pardon me, pardon me I won't ever be the same.
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12-24-2002, 05:28 PM	#6
Dintkin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milwaukee WI. Posts: 24	i think IL-2 is the best right now. CFS3 is a bit buggy. seems to have a memory leak. if they have a fix for CFS3 i would like that better than IL-2 because you have choice of missions and planes. IL-2 if you do the german campain you only get to fly the BF109. i was wanting to try the FW190 as for graphics IL-2 is purdy. and the clouds look so cool. CFS3 isnt bad. but not as sharp.
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12-24-2002, 05:52 PM	#7
SLM crew chief We Came We Saw We Folded Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NE Ohio, USA Posts: 4,641	Don't forget about the "old" Falcon 4.0. With the Superpak, it is a very realistic flight model. If you do go for it, buy it off eBay, but make sure you get the full manual. It is over 500 pages and you will be totally lost without it. The PDF for the Superpack is like another 190 pages. __________________ Folding on a CUSL2/TUSL2? Why not..........Join F@H Team-CUSL2The "Old-School Crew" SLM crew chief, EJD3, SKI, Drufuss, PeterT Your name here I walk a lonely road The only one that I have ever known Don't know where it goes But it's home to me and I walk alone -- Greenday
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12-24-2002, 09:57 PM	#8
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,688	I'll give IL2 a try. I just downloaded the demo from a painfully slow server. Took forever, but I got it. Thanks everyone! __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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12-25-2002, 07:05 PM	#9
cenkog FujiS5000 n I'm LOVIN IT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cyprus Turkish Republic Posts: 166	Jane's F/A-18 ... Don't forget "Jane's FA-18" ...Best MP flights waiting for you in HL with this really excellent & stable combat jet sim...By the way ,LOMAC coming soon...
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12-26-2002, 04:39 PM	#10
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12-29-2002, 03:02 PM	#11
cenkog FujiS5000 n I'm LOVIN IT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cyprus Turkish Republic Posts: 166	Best Current Hardcore Flight Sims... IMO: Combat Jet : "Jane's FA-18 TSH 1.0", "Falcon4.0 SP3" at the moment & LOMAC is coming... Civil sim: FS 2002 no doubt *WWII sim: IL-2 at the moment & by the way "Forgotten Battles" is coming ...
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12-29-2002, 03:40 PM	#12
Wingit Palm Rat Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southwest Florida, USA Posts: 4,968	WWII - IL2 Sturmovik stands head and shoulders above the rest ... graphics and otherwise... needs mucho muscle machine (but what flightsim doesn't) Modern Jets - Falcon4 Superpack3 iteration will have no competition until Lomac (hopefully) raises the bar again. Graphics are a little dated, but not bad with the multitude of user mods (512 skins recently!) Civil - FS2002 is prettier but supposedly X-Plane cannot be beat for flight models...don't have personal experience of X-Plane Early Jets - StrikeFighters by Thirdwire is a work in progress....buggy as hell right now, but the develper"TK" is the force behind the old European Air War and IMHO will surmount the problems if given time and resources. "Mig Alley" by Rowan is a bargain title at this point and is well worth the few bucks expended btw. (go to SIMHQ website for enhancements and WinXP fixes) Just my opinion
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12-29-2002, 03:53 PM	#13
Torstein Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 30	Old but still going strong.......... My vote goes to "Flight Unlimited III" which I think stems back to the 1998 or 1999. It has the most realistic flight dynamics (except perhaps the "X-plane" according to some). FU III's scenery and weather simulation are also worth mentioning as is its ATC capability. It is no longer obtainable through the trade but the AVSIM-forum (www.avsim.com) has pointers to sources where it can be bought. Also over at the AVSIM-forum there are a crowd of "hard core" simmers that are designing new aircrafts and scenery. Its biggest drawback (to some) is that the scenery is limited to the north west of US but then that scenery is more detailed and realistic than most of the add-ons for MS FS2002.
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12-29-2002, 07:41 PM	#15
PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,688	Thanks to Everyone for all the responses! __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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