SMP Folding rants and raves!

XJ. · 04-20-2007, 03:57 PM

Well, with a number of us running the SMP client now (available for Linux, Windows and MacOSX), I thought I might start a thread for us to kibitz in once and a while.

Me first

Over-all I've pretty much doubled my production on my Core2 system and am very happy with my current PPD

Today, however, I just finished folding a 1385 pt WU that took ~50 hours to fold (+another ~5 hours of being shut down when I was playing a game). Seem really odd since the usual 1760 point WUs fold in about 26 hours. Just seems like the points are ->

I thought Pande Group had just straightened out the point situation - so what's going on?

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h20-ski · 04-21-2007, 12:57 AM

They still use the standard benchmark, and unfortunately they have not always been right. There is one wu that on my machine at best reaches 100ppd not the standard 110, and it is seen across the board for that one wu.

But as you said SMP has doubled my ppd. Although for the Windows version I had a sudden rash of BSOD's, once I reinstalled the MPI client the BSOD went away.

XJ. · 04-21-2007, 07:11 AM

100 PPD - that's a drag!

I just got another project taking about 33 minutes per frame, it's project 2608.
Well, I wish the points made more sense, but it all in the name of science - and hopefully finding cures or treatments for some very debilitating and deadly diseases.

Griff · 04-21-2007, 10:19 AM

Overall I am happy with the SMP Client. The only thing I do not like is sometimes if you shut it down and reboot the computer it starts right from the first frame again, thus losing the previous time spent folding that wu. My production has really gone up since changing to this client.

h20-ski · 04-21-2007, 09:31 PM

I just wish that they could code it for true SMP not 4 networked threads. Which I think would solve quite a few problems, especially when you need to change a network setting and it kills the client.

XJ. · 04-27-2007, 12:47 PM

I've been trying out different Internet security packages lately and it's killing my average PPD - I keep getting connections blocked (mainly because they are coming from the VM, and hence cause multiple problems for the security gateways).

XJ. · 06-18-2007, 11:01 AM

Ugh, I really hate the ~1500 point SMP WUs. They take 50% longer to fold than the ~1800 point ones. Not really a logical value/time ratio

VSEKH · 06-18-2007, 11:05 AM

The 1523 point proteins work well with a lot of L2 cache as it folds pretty fast on my QX6700 system.

Overall, I've been happy with the SMP client as my point production has nearly doubled since utilizing this client on all of my home PCs.

zsaz1029 · 06-18-2007, 05:57 PM

Being a complete Linux newb, I have no idea how to get FAH to run at startup on my VM.

XJ. · 06-18-2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsaz1029

Being a complete Linux newb, I have no idea how to get FAH to run at startup on my VM.

I have a thread somewhere in here citing several sources on what to do. I look for it tomorrow.

zsaz1029 · 06-18-2007, 10:14 PM

I know you've got something about finstall (I think it was called?) but it looked like it was used if you don't even have F@H installed yet. And I'd have no idea how to uninstall it to start over, though I guess I could just redo the whole VM. Or maybe it wouldn't matter if I have it installed already? It would just be a new install and I wouldn't be using the old one anymore? I guess I should have thought of that before. My brain hasn't been working properly for about 3 months now.

XJ. · 06-18-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSEKH

The 1523 point proteins work well with a lot of L2 cache as it folds pretty fast on my QX6700 system.

Overall, I've been happy with the SMP client as my point production has nearly doubled since utilizing this client on all of my home PCs.

Interesting. I'm hoping to pick-up a Q6600 some time after the price reductions in July. I'll probably shoot for 2.8-3.2GHz per core, which shouldn't be hard with a 9x multi.

XJ. · 06-21-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsaz1029

Being a complete Linux newb, I have no idea how to get FAH to run at startup on my VM.

Here you go zsaz! -> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/distri...int-gains.html

DBoone · 06-21-2007, 08:14 PM

I finally tried it today but I can't connect to a SMP server. It just sits there waiting and occasionally trying to connect. Is that usual? How long should I give it? It's been over an hour already.

Griff · 06-21-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBoone

I finally tried it today but I can't connect to a SMP server. It just sits there waiting and occasionally trying to connect. Is that usual? How long should I give it? It's been over an hour already.

Make sure your firewall is not blocking the connection. Also when you configured it did you leave IExplorer blank as the connection.

04-20-2007, 03:57 PM	#1
XJ. Back at the Zone! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NH, USA Posts: 6,468	SMP Folding rants and raves! Well, with a number of us running the SMP client now (available for Linux, Windows and MacOSX), I thought I might start a thread for us to kibitz in once and a while. Me first Over-all I've pretty much doubled my production on my Core2 system and am very happy with my current PPD Today, however, I just finished folding a 1385 pt WU that took ~50 hours to fold (+another ~5 hours of being shut down when I was playing a game). Seem really odd since the usual 1760 point WUs fold in about 26 hours. Just seems like the points are -> I thought Pande Group had just straightened out the point situation - so what's going on? __________________ Using my PC for work ATM, so no folding for now.
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04-21-2007, 12:57 AM	#2
h20-ski Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	They still use the standard benchmark, and unfortunately they have not always been right. There is one wu that on my machine at best reaches 100ppd not the standard 110, and it is seen across the board for that one wu. But as you said SMP has doubled my ppd. Although for the Windows version I had a sudden rash of BSOD's, once I reinstalled the MPI client the BSOD went away.
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04-21-2007, 07:11 AM	#3
XJ. Back at the Zone! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NH, USA Posts: 6,468	100 PPD - that's a drag! I just got another project taking about 33 minutes per frame, it's project 2608. Well, I wish the points made more sense, but it all in the name of science - and hopefully finding cures or treatments for some very debilitating and deadly diseases. __________________ Using my PC for work ATM, so no folding for now.
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04-21-2007, 10:19 AM	#4
Griff OLD FART Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Smithers BC, Canada Posts: 4,245	Overall I am happy with the SMP Client. The only thing I do not like is sometimes if you shut it down and reboot the computer it starts right from the first frame again, thus losing the previous time spent folding that wu. My production has really gone up since changing to this client. __________________ Jerry Folding for the betterment of man kind.
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04-21-2007, 09:31 PM	#5
h20-ski Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	I just wish that they could code it for true SMP not 4 networked threads. Which I think would solve quite a few problems, especially when you need to change a network setting and it kills the client.
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04-27-2007, 12:47 PM	#6
XJ. Back at the Zone! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NH, USA Posts: 6,468	I've been trying out different Internet security packages lately and it's killing my average PPD - I keep getting connections blocked (mainly because they are coming from the VM, and hence cause multiple problems for the security gateways). __________________ Using my PC for work ATM, so no folding for now.
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06-18-2007, 11:01 AM	#7
XJ. Back at the Zone! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NH, USA Posts: 6,468	Ugh, I really hate the ~1500 point SMP WUs. They take 50% longer to fold than the ~1800 point ones. Not really a logical value/time ratio __________________ Using my PC for work ATM, so no folding for now.
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06-18-2007, 11:05 AM	#8
VSEKH Fold for ABX Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 11,936	The 1523 point proteins work well with a lot of L2 cache as it folds pretty fast on my QX6700 system. Overall, I've been happy with the SMP client as my point production has nearly doubled since utilizing this client on all of my home PCs. __________________ Folding Rig:Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6, QX9650 cooled with a Zalman 9700NT, Powercolor X300SE, Audigy2zs, 4G DDR2-800 Mushkin memory, Plextor PX-760, Pair of 74GB WD Raptors in Raid0 & Seagate 750GB SATA drives, PC Power & Cooling 610 watt PSU, Coolermaster Cosmos case Gaming Rig: Asus Maximus Formula SE, Intel QX9650 cooled with a Zalman 9700NT, EVGA 8800GTX, 4GB of GSkill DDR2-1000, Audigy XFi fatality, Samsung 203B, Pair of 150GB WD Raptors in Raid0 & 1TB Hitachi Sata hard drives, PC Power & Cooling 750 watt PSU, Coolermaster Stacker STC-T01 case
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06-18-2007, 05:57 PM	#9
zsaz1029 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,200	Being a complete Linux newb, I have no idea how to get FAH to run at startup on my VM. __________________ Spaz ----- ----- "A scar is never the same as good flesh, but it stops the bleeding." -- FitzChivalry Farseer (Assassin's Quest by Robin Hobb) "Only my pain is more silent than my anger." -- Amber (The Liveship Traders by Robin Hobb) -----
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06-18-2007, 10:14 PM	#11
zsaz1029 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,200	I know you've got something about finstall (I think it was called?) but it looked like it was used if you don't even have F@H installed yet. And I'd have no idea how to uninstall it to start over, though I guess I could just redo the whole VM. Or maybe it wouldn't matter if I have it installed already? It would just be a new install and I wouldn't be using the old one anymore? I guess I should have thought of that before. My brain hasn't been working properly for about 3 months now. __________________ Spaz ----- ----- "A scar is never the same as good flesh, but it stops the bleeding." -- FitzChivalry Farseer (Assassin's Quest by Robin Hobb) "Only my pain is more silent than my anger." -- Amber (The Liveship Traders by Robin Hobb) -----
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06-21-2007, 08:14 PM	#14
DBoone Just call me Dave Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,000	I finally tried it today but I can't connect to a SMP server. It just sits there waiting and occasionally trying to connect. Is that usual? How long should I give it? It's been over an hour already. __________________ ASUS P5B-Deluxe, Intel E6600, 4 GB Corsair XMS, Sapphire 5850, Windows 7
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