Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista

*zapionics<alt>* · 04-20-2009, 08:31 PM

Julie Larson-Green hopes you'll like Windows 7. If not, well, now you and a billion other people know who to blame...

Microsoft is counting on Larson-Green, its head of "Windows Experience," to deliver an operating system that delights the world's PC users as much as its last effort, Vista, disappointed them...

Interesting article here

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*PeterT* · 04-20-2009, 09:11 PM

That was interesting. Thanks.

DBoone · 04-20-2009, 10:15 PM

But I still hate Office 2007 so much that I refuse to use it.

*johnrr6* · 04-21-2009, 06:45 AM

January release date for Windows 7???

Where does this guy come up with that??? That would just be.......

Plain stupid on Microsoft's part......as long as the software is ready (and I think it is-----because it's built on a core product that has been out for three years)......yes----I'm talking about "awful" Vista-----that same awful Vista that I have used on a daily basis for the last few years and enjoyed it immensely....

I bet this journalist is another of those "Vista Bashers"-----who has never even used it....

But be that as it may.....I look forward to Windows 7 because it will do one thing Vista has trouble with-----and that is run extremely well on lower horsepower machines.

I think MS won't miss the opportunity for the Holiday sales season....I see them with a total advertising blitz starting Septemeber with a release in Odctober.

I also think Julie Larson-Green is cute.....

so there you go.....

polonyc2 · 04-21-2009, 08:17 AM

"Just as Vista was a magnet for complaints, Office 2007 won accolades from software critics and regular users"

really?...I'm still waiting for a new version of Office that will make me want to upgrade from Office 2000 Premium

*johnrr6* · 04-21-2009, 08:49 AM

I hate Office 2007 as well....

and I use little Add-ons to bring the menus back (I'm soooo retro...)

but I swear to you that for as many people I find that HATE it----I find an equal amount that just LOVE it!

The ones who love it say that it now is just so easy----and it all makes more sense....

Well......not to me....

But maybe there is something to all of Julie Larson Green's research----at least for many folks....

*PeterT* · 04-21-2009, 12:35 PM

I use Office 2003 and have never used 2007, but I am sure I would not like not having menus. I also think making them unavailable is as disappointing to me as the classic start menu not being available in Win7.

*zapionics<alt>* · 04-21-2009, 09:01 PM

I think the new UI in Office 2007 is a natural and logical progression from the old one. Basically in past versions we had to have all the toolbars that we frequently needed docked - taking up valuable screen space (or otherwise try squeezing the buttons we needed onto the main toolbar).

Office 2007 tries to solve that by having separate groups of related items arrranged as tabs at the top of the page and then having a common toolbar for those common operations we need. Seems straightforward to me. Only thing is there is a learning curve from the old to the new, because we just got too used to the old UI over the years.

The only real problem IMO with the UI in 2007 is that there are so many features that we never use that just sit there cluttering up the interface and looking a little complicated. All they need to do to solve that is identify the features that are most often used by the greatest number of users and hide the others.
Then people could just add buttons back as they need them, rather than the other way around of having to remove buttons they dont need (which means you have to work out what each one is for to decide if you need them or not).

I also think M$ needs to add a "what can I use this for?" feature to the help system. That kind of help is scattered throughout the rest of the help which is of the "how do I use this?" type and so the help text is often confusing and irrelevant.

If they just hired me I could solve it.

Cogar · 04-24-2009, 02:11 PM

So Mrs. hyphenated-name hopes we will like it. Gee, I feel so warm and fuzzy since she empathizes with me.

For the record, even though I use my home computer virtually every day, I cannot even recall the last time I booted into Windows and somehow I have survived.

Additionally, if Office 2007 is the “sleeper hit” of the “Vista era,” Microsoft is still out of touch with reality. That statement reminds me of the numerous press releases from Microsoft over many months stating how Vista was taking the market by storm.

Brian · 04-24-2009, 03:06 PM

What I find amusing is that I don't feel like I need an "antidote" to Vista. I'm using it and I am absolutely loving it.

If Windows 7 turns out to be supremely better than Vista then I will consider upgrading but, seriously, Windows Vista has been a total joy for me to use.

Brian · 04-24-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cogar

So Mrs. hyphenated-name hopes we will like it.

She looks pretty damn good for someone who is pushing 50, though!

*zapionics<alt>* · 04-25-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

She looks pretty damn good for someone who is pushing 50, though!

Joe Public · 04-25-2009, 05:32 AM

Oh, don't get me started. The IT manager at work installed Office 2007 last week and I'm already ready to murder someone.

As for Vista and Win 7, whatever floats peoples boat. Myself, 95% of the time I'm still on XP. (Got Vista for testing DX10 stuff).

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johnrr6 Lucky Amateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,051	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista January release date for Windows 7??? Where does this guy come up with that??? That would just be....... Plain stupid on Microsoft's part......as long as the software is ready (and I think it is-----because it's built on a core product that has been out for three years)......yes----I'm talking about "awful" Vista-----that same awful Vista that I have used on a daily basis for the last few years and enjoyed it immensely.... I bet this journalist is another of those "Vista Bashers"-----who has never even used it.... But be that as it may.....I look forward to Windows 7 because it will do one thing Vista has trouble with-----and that is run extremely well on lower horsepower machines. I think MS won't miss the opportunity for the Holiday sales season....I see them with a total advertising blitz starting Septemeber with a release in Odctober. I also think Julie Larson-Green is cute..... so there you go..... __________________ i7 920 @ 3.5 Ghz Win 7 Ultimate Edition 64 Bit Asus P6T Deluxe, BIOS 1904 Vigor Monsoon III LT 6 x 2 Gig Mushkin PC12800 ATI HD 4870 X2 2 x 500 Gig Seagate SATA II HDs in RAID 0 Samsung SATA TruDirect DVD Burner w/Lightscribe Seasonic 600W PSU Creative X-Fi Titanium sound Lian Li AO5B Black Case Hauppage 1800 TV Card
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johnrr6 Lucky Amateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,051	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista I hate Office 2007 as well.... and I use little Add-ons to bring the menus back (I'm soooo retro...) but I swear to you that for as many people I find that HATE it----I find an equal amount that just LOVE it! The ones who love it say that it now is just so easy----and it all makes more sense.... Well......not to me.... But maybe there is something to all of Julie Larson Green's research----at least for many folks.... __________________ i7 920 @ 3.5 Ghz Win 7 Ultimate Edition 64 Bit Asus P6T Deluxe, BIOS 1904 Vigor Monsoon III LT 6 x 2 Gig Mushkin PC12800 ATI HD 4870 X2 2 x 500 Gig Seagate SATA II HDs in RAID 0 Samsung SATA TruDirect DVD Burner w/Lightscribe Seasonic 600W PSU Creative X-Fi Titanium sound Lian Li AO5B Black Case Hauppage 1800 TV Card
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PeterT CUSL2...GA-EP45-UD3P...? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,935	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista I use Office 2003 and have never used 2007, but I am sure I would not like not having menus. I also think making them unavailable is as disappointing to me as the classic start menu not being available in Win7. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Asus Eee PC 1000HE, 1x2GB Corsair DDR2 667 GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GA-EP45-DS3L, E7200, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, Asus EAH4850 TOP 512MB GA-EP45-UD3P, E6600, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB P5B-D in a box at the moment P4P800-D, P4 2.4C, 4x512MB Mushkin DDR 400, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live! * Please join ABXZone and participate *
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zapionics<alt> <unknown level> Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 3,890	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista I think the new UI in Office 2007 is a natural and logical progression from the old one. Basically in past versions we had to have all the toolbars that we frequently needed docked - taking up valuable screen space (or otherwise try squeezing the buttons we needed onto the main toolbar). Office 2007 tries to solve that by having separate groups of related items arrranged as tabs at the top of the page and then having a common toolbar for those common operations we need. Seems straightforward to me. Only thing is there is a learning curve from the old to the new, because we just got too used to the old UI over the years. The only real problem IMO with the UI in 2007 is that there are so many features that we never use that just sit there cluttering up the interface and looking a little complicated. All they need to do to solve that is identify the features that are most often used by the greatest number of users and hide the others. Then people could just add buttons back as they need them, rather than the other way around of having to remove buttons they dont need (which means you have to work out what each one is for to decide if you need them or not). I also think M$ needs to add a "what can I use this for?" feature to the help system. That kind of help is scattered throughout the rest of the help which is of the "how do I use this?" type and so the help text is often confusing and irrelevant. If they just hired me I could solve it. __________________ * Please note: any advertising within this post has been placed there by the site owner and NOT by me! * "To Boldly Go..."
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Cogar Level 16, lawful good Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: It varies, but usually within 100 yards of a keyboard. Posts: 7,299	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista So Mrs. hyphenated-name hopes we will like it. Gee, I feel so warm and fuzzy since she empathizes with me. For the record, even though I use my home computer virtually every day, I cannot even recall the last time I booted into Windows and somehow I have survived. Additionally, if Office 2007 is the “sleeper hit” of the “Vista era,” Microsoft is still out of touch with reality. That statement reminds me of the numerous press releases from Microsoft over many months stating how Vista was taking the market by storm.
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Brian See ya! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6,000	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista What I find amusing is that I don't feel like I need an "antidote" to Vista. I'm using it and I am absolutely loving it. If Windows 7 turns out to be supremely better than Vista then I will consider upgrading but, seriously, Windows Vista has been a total joy for me to use.
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Joe Public Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,932	Re: Meet Microsoft's antidote to Vista Oh, don't get me started. The IT manager at work installed Office 2007 last week and I'm already ready to murder someone. As for Vista and Win 7, whatever floats peoples boat. Myself, 95% of the time I'm still on XP. (Got Vista for testing DX10 stuff). __________________ Asus P5B-E - Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2 GHz - 2x1024MB Geil PC6400 RAM - Asus GeForce GTX260 896MB- Samsung F1 1TB - Corsair HX620W PSU - 18x Samsung DVD/RW - SB Live - Winders XP SP2/Ubuntu 7.10
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