Desperate!!!!!

misskitty0804 · 06-29-2004, 09:59 AM

Hello everyone. Hope someone can figure this one out.

I have a laptop compaq presario 1230, I loaned it to someone and it got returned crashed. I have tried everything I can and things I have been told to redo the whole system on the computer.

The OS is 98SE the person tried to install XP. Now I can't get anything to go on it. I have tried to go to c:\>format c: after tapping f8 upon startup and going to comand prompt only.

The computer is stating that I have missing or corrupted files
1. C:\WINDOWS\HIMEN.SYS
2. C:\WINDOWS\DB;BULL.SYS
3. C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS

ALSO it cannot find WIN>COM, unable to continue loading Windows

If someone has any suggestions PLEASE let me know.
I am at wits end.

Thank-you Miss Kitty

Monkey Hanger · 06-29-2004, 10:12 AM

To reinstall Win98 you will probably need to FDISK it to clear all the old/XP stuff out.
You can get a Win98 boot disk from www.bootdisk.com
This will allow you to reinstall Win98 from the original disk that came with your lapptop.

XStorm · 06-30-2004, 12:24 PM

lets hope the quick restore set you have is a full version and not the partition version - the part version uses backup information off of the secondary SYSTEM_SAV partition on the hard drive - the xp format may have damaged the partitions and that might make the cds no good - it may be rough trying to get these from compaq anymore

like the monkey said get a bootdisk and fdisk the hard disk to repartition it then format it clean and then run the recovery cds to see if they will take

good luck

XS

DeMenAce · 06-30-2004, 01:02 PM

The recovery disk SHOULD clear out all the old garbage and install W98 fresh. Just as it was when new.

Monkey Hanger · 06-30-2004, 01:53 PM

The OP makes no mention of recovery CDs!

3 of 7 · 06-30-2004, 02:31 PM

I wonder if your friend formated the HD using NFTS? (I would have)....win 98 can't read the file structure.....If there is a small partition on the drive...that's likely where your system install files reside...If that's the case it will be a matter of formating C: using fat32, booting with a win 98 disk and finding the setup application file stored on your smaller partition.....
I'm an XP Fan , so if it were me I'd just do a format and install of XP (you can format your drive using the XP install disk BTW)

ThugsRook · 07-01-2004, 09:16 AM

if it was converted to NTFS he'll need a HD install disk to convert it back to FAT32.

3 of 7 · 07-01-2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

if it was converted to NTFS he'll need a HD install disk to convert it back to FAT32.

The XP Pro install disk will allow you to format using fat 32, I can't remember off-hand if the XP Home one will or not, but if he has access to one, I'd try it...format to fat 32 and bail on the install when it asks for the id #

Monkey Hanger · 07-01-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 of 7

The XP Pro install disk will allow you to format using fat 32, I can't remember off-hand if the XP Home one will or not, but if he has access to one, I'd try it...format to fat 32 and bail on the install when it asks for the id #

Time for FDISK!

BoWevil_abx · 07-01-2004, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 of 7

The XP Pro install disk will allow you to format using fat 32, I can't remember off-hand if the XP Home one will or not, but if he has access to one, I'd try it...format to fat 32 and bail on the install when it asks for the id #

You can reformat in FAT32 with XP Home.

wallijonn · 07-09-2004, 03:47 PM

does it boot from floppy? if it does, then he didn't NTFS it.

3 of 7 · 07-09-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallijonn

does it boot from floppy? if it does, then he didn't NTFS it.

?????????
What does the floppy have to do with NFTS?

wallijonn · 07-11-2004, 11:36 PM

If you boot from a W98 boot floppy, and can get to the C: drive, it means that the WXP install did not convert the FAT or FAT32 to NTFS.

Your original message just said that certain files were missing. These files are on the W98 boot floppy, or at least himem.sys is. If it hasn't been converted then a plain install over the old windows directory should clean it up. Yes, there are people who run WXP on FAT32.

check:
http://www.theeldergeek.com/uninstal...and_prompt.htm
http://www.winxpfix.com/page23-Unins...XP.htm#unwinxp
http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1
http://labmice.techtarget.com/window.../uninstall.htm
http://www.quepublishing.com/article...02260&seqNum=4

(I did a google search for 'uninstalling windows xp' string).

06-29-2004, 09:59 AM	#1
misskitty0804 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1	Desperate!!!!! Hello everyone. Hope someone can figure this one out. I have a laptop compaq presario 1230, I loaned it to someone and it got returned crashed. I have tried everything I can and things I have been told to redo the whole system on the computer. The OS is 98SE the person tried to install XP. Now I can't get anything to go on it. I have tried to go to c:\>format c: after tapping f8 upon startup and going to comand prompt only. The computer is stating that I have missing or corrupted files 1. C:\WINDOWS\HIMEN.SYS 2. C:\WINDOWS\DB;BULL.SYS 3. C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS ALSO it cannot find WIN>COM, unable to continue loading Windows If someone has any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I am at wits end. Thank-you Miss Kitty
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06-29-2004, 10:12 AM	#2
Monkey Hanger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 10,590	To reinstall Win98 you will probably need to FDISK it to clear all the old/XP stuff out. You can get a Win98 boot disk from www.bootdisk.com This will allow you to reinstall Win98 from the original disk that came with your lapptop.
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06-30-2004, 12:24 PM	#3
XStorm Lady of the Dark Aribeth Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ND Posts: 881	lets hope the quick restore set you have is a full version and not the partition version - the part version uses backup information off of the secondary SYSTEM_SAV partition on the hard drive - the xp format may have damaged the partitions and that might make the cds no good - it may be rough trying to get these from compaq anymore like the monkey said get a bootdisk and fdisk the hard disk to repartition it then format it clean and then run the recovery cds to see if they will take good luck XS __________________ ABIT IC7-G MAX II Advance w/BIOS 28 P4C 3.0GHz D1 w/TT Spark 7 4x256 OCZ PC3200 2336 Seagate SATA 80GB NEC DVDRW SB Audigy 2 ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB WIN XP PRO SP2 ANTEC TruePower 430W PSU 6x80mm glowing fans & pretty blue cathode
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06-30-2004, 01:02 PM	#4
DeMenAce GOD is LOVE Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,978	The recovery disk SHOULD clear out all the old garbage and install W98 fresh. Just as it was when new. __________________
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06-30-2004, 01:53 PM	#5
Monkey Hanger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 10,590	The OP makes no mention of recovery CDs!
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06-30-2004, 02:31 PM	#6
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,661	I wonder if your friend formated the HD using NFTS? (I would have)....win 98 can't read the file structure.....If there is a small partition on the drive...that's likely where your system install files reside...If that's the case it will be a matter of formating C: using fat32, booting with a win 98 disk and finding the setup application file stored on your smaller partition..... I'm an XP Fan , so if it were me I'd just do a format and install of XP (you can format your drive using the XP install disk BTW) __________________ Last edited by 3 of 7 : 06-30-2004 at 02:39 PM.
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07-01-2004, 09:16 AM	#7
ThugsRook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: FLA Posts: 1,832	if it was converted to NTFS he'll need a HD install disk to convert it back to FAT32.
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07-09-2004, 03:47 PM	#11
wallijonn PHX Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,569	does it boot from floppy? if it does, then he didn't NTFS it.
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07-11-2004, 11:36 PM	#13
wallijonn PHX Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,569	If you boot from a W98 boot floppy, and can get to the C: drive, it means that the WXP install did not convert the FAT or FAT32 to NTFS. Your original message just said that certain files were missing. These files are on the W98 boot floppy, or at least himem.sys is. If it hasn't been converted then a plain install over the old windows directory should clean it up. Yes, there are people who run WXP on FAT32. check: http://www.theeldergeek.com/uninstal...and_prompt.htm http://www.winxpfix.com/page23-Unins...XP.htm#unwinxp http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1 http://labmice.techtarget.com/window.../uninstall.htm http://www.quepublishing.com/article...02260&seqNum=4 (I did a google search for 'uninstalling windows xp' string). Last edited by wallijonn : 07-11-2004 at 11:45 PM.
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