What is the largest hdd win98se will support ?

yamawho · 10-12-2004, 09:17 PM

I seem to remember that it is 32 gig ... anyone know ?

ThugsRook · 10-12-2004, 09:22 PM

128gb

yamawho · 10-12-2004, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

128gb

Really ...

Where did I get 32 gig from ... is that the limit for win98 1st edition ?

*SRTDodge05* · 10-12-2004, 09:29 PM

when you load windows xp with fat32 32gb is the biggest you can go.

**Perry_abx** · 10-12-2004, 09:32 PM

It's not only the OS but also the motherboards BIOS that limits hard drive sizes... all the barriers are listed here:

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/size.htm

ThugsRook · 10-12-2004, 09:32 PM

32gb is the FAT32 partition limit.

it can go higher, but itll use 32kb clusters (ok for a storage drive, but sux for an OS drive)

under 8gb partition = 4kb clusters
under 16gb partition = 8kb clusters
under 32gb partition = 16kb clusters
over 32gb partition = 32kb clusters

HTH

**Perry_abx** · 10-12-2004, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSgtJoe2005

when you load windows xp with fat32 32gb is the biggest you can go.

Not if you use fdisk to partition and format with a 98SE bootdisk first...

yamawho · 10-12-2004, 09:40 PM

I noticed in the hdd properties that it has Int13h checked.
This system has a 4 gig hdd and DMA was not checked so I did.

I am thinking of adding a 40gig hdd ... will this work ?
I installed True Image 7 already and it has a feature to prepare a new hdd.
I have never tried this but what the hey

Any pointers ?

**Perry_abx** · 10-12-2004, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

32gb is the FAT32 partition limit.

it can go higher, but itll use 32kb clusters (ok for a storage drive, but sux for an OS drive)

under 8gb partition = 4kb clusters
under 16gb partition = 8kb clusters
under 32gb partition = 16kb clusters
over 32gb partition = 32kb clusters

HTH

FAT32 actually allows a hard disk of up to 2 terabytes to be formatted as a single drive. No BIOS or OS has support for this yet and probably never will...

It would take a month to format 2 TB!!!

**Perry_abx** · 10-12-2004, 09:56 PM

yamawho,

When you say "this system", what system are you referring to? More than likely a 40GB would be easily partitioned and formatted as a single drive if the system BIOS and motherboard were released after early 1999.

wonderwrench · 10-12-2004, 10:00 PM

Make sure the win98se boot disk used to fdisk the drive has the large drive support update (drives over 64 gigs) I use the modified boot disk on all fat32 drives.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;263044
If I remember correctly you have to manually copy several files from 98se to a 98se boot disk after installing the update to 98se. As 98se will not create an updated boot disk even though the os was patched. I could not find any info at MS. I do have winimage boot disk creator that makes a 98se boot disk with large drive support. If anyone needs or wants it PM me or I can try to post it here.

98 and 98se large drive support (over 32 gigs) with old phoenix bios.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/d...de/Default.asp

FYI XP can only format fat32 up to 32gig partitions but can read/write to larger fat partitions.

yamawho · 10-12-2004, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perry

yamawho,

When you say "this system", what system are you referring to? More than likely a 40GB would be easily partitioned and formatted as a single drive if the system BIOS and motherboard were released after early 1999.

This system is a Compaq Deskpro 6300 series built in 1998.
P2 350 mhz, 128 mg pc100 ram, Intel chipset (haven't looked which yet) and Matrox G200 AGP video card 8mg, hdd 4gig.

I wanted to change the hdd but then I remembered Compaq's don't allow you to change the hdd. It least my last one didn't, this one doesn't have a svae partition so you never know.

I might need to keep the original hdd for the OS and the use the 40 gig as slave. Can I use True Image 7 prepare new drive ?

UbiMea · 10-12-2004, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perry

FAT32 actually allows a hard disk of up to 2 terabytes to be formatted as a single drive. No BIOS or OS has support for this yet and probably never will...

It would take a month to format 2 TB!!!

Don't know about the month, but I recently purchased a 250 gigabyte Lacie external drive which came formated FAT32.

So at least 250 gigabytes IS supported by FAT32 (I reformatted the drive to NTFS, however)

**Perry_abx** · 10-12-2004, 11:17 PM

With a system that old yamawho you will probably have to partition the drive in half unless there is a BIOS update available from Compaq (Highly unlikely!) or if you use a software utility from the HDD manufacturer to overcome the size limit. They usually install a drive "overlay" to fool the BIOS since it can't intepret the drive's parameters. What brand is it?

yamawho · 10-12-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perry

With a system that old yamawho you will probably have to partition the drive in half unless there is a BIOS update available from Compaq (Highly unlikely!) or if you use a software utility from the HDD manufacturer to overcome the size limit. They usually install a drive "overlay" to fool the BIOS since it can't intepret the drive's parameters. What brand is it?

Maxtor 40 gig 7200 rpm 2mg

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