I will NEVER buy ASUS AGAIN!!!

jwhitemx15 · 12-03-2001, 06:27 AM

I have had nothing but problems with my Asus A7V-133 motherboard.

You may view my problems, frustrations, and solutions on VIA's forum site. Below you'll find a link to a few very disturbed former Asus consumers.

http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...d=3835&start=1

Please view it so that others may not fall into the same trap that I did!

Thank You

Technoman · 12-03-2001, 06:33 AM

Sorry to hear about your misfortune !
I happen to think my ASUS motherboard is as good as it gets !
Infact both of em !

But good luck with your new motherboard pic .

by the way welcome to the asusboards !
When you get a new motherboard if ya need any help we will all surely try to help !

deadkenny · 12-03-2001, 07:58 AM

I'm not quite clear, is this a new system that has only ever had Windows XP on it? Or was it running another version of Windows previously, and this is an upgrade to XP? If the latter, how did it run under the other O/S? Is it possible that the problem is XP? I mean, heaven forbid, that a brand new version of a Microsoft O/S could actually have bugs in it!

JoeFrat · 12-03-2001, 08:24 AM

I'm with DK. After reading your posts over there I don't see much of a solution offered. I build these things every day and I've not had one bad MB yet. What kind of components are you using? Let's see if we can figure out what is causing the problem.

TQ · 12-03-2001, 09:15 AM

I don't particularly care for the A7V's (I've built two systems with A7V's) myself. But all of my Intel based ASUS boards have been spectacular. I think you have to look at who makes the core logic chipsets and make a decision based on that.
Again, let me say to all the VIA/AMD fans that belong and post to this messageboard that these are my own opinions based only on my personal experience. Others may (and do) have a different view.
My experience with ASUS/ Intel products will keep me coming back to ASUS time and time again.
So, jw, don't lay all the blame at the feet of ASUS. One has to take into consideration the original designer of the chipset.

jwhitemx15 · 12-03-2001, 10:09 AM

All of my hardware is compatible and on MS's HCL, with the exception of the motherboard. I built this system the first week on June 2001, and I didn't have any problems running Win98 SE.

I've tried a clean install of XP several times and I can't get any of my PCI devices to work. They're recognized and according to XP working properly, but they are not working.

I agree that the problem could be in the OS and I can't expect Asus to build a motherboard to support and OS that isn't even in existance when the motherboard is already on the market, but they offer me absolutely no help at all. When I call, all I hear is "we don't support XP at all yet". XP has been out for over a month now, and they can't offer me ANY advice at all?

I've been on every messageboard in existance on the internet and I'm finding no help. I'm also seeing many other people that are having problems with other Asus motherboards, not ony the A7V133.

Can I hear from an Asus expert that they have a motherboard on the market that is 100% compatible with XP?

JoeFrat · 12-03-2001, 11:29 AM

P4T-E

edit- as a side note, I have seen many pieces of equipment on MS's list and they don't always work. If you'd post how the system is put together(cards, slots, irq assignments etc.) maybe we can help.

TQ · 12-03-2001, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jwhitemx15
Can I hear from an Asus expert that they have a motherboard on the market that is 100% compatible with XP?

Well, I'm running my CUSL2-C with Win2K Pro and my XP machine is an Intel i815EEA2, which is the same chipset as the CUSL2-C.
Both hum happily along, singing a song, side by side...sorry...that just slipped out...
I assume you've installed the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers for your A7V?
This link takes you to viahardware.com, where I see you can download the latest VIA XP drivers.

http://www.viahardware.com/download/index.shtm#4in1

These may fix your problems if you haven't yet installed them.
They're quite recent...from October of this year.
I suggest you install the IDE-Miniport driver appropriate for your chipset, as well as the VIA 4-in-1 driver version 4.35 final.

**Gorganzola** · 12-03-2001, 12:11 PM

I have an ASUS A7V133. You can see what I have in the way of hardware in my Profile. I run Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98SE, SuSE Linux 7.2 and I don't have any issues with it on the hardware side.

I didn't like the fan on the northbridge because it ended up failing, am a little perturbed about that, but I don't need it there since I don't overclock. It placed there by ASUS so those who do overclock can achieve a higher FSB. Removing it also makes my machine a lot quieter (even before it started it failing I found it rather noisy.)

Keep in mind, VIA has been well known for having problems with their chipsets but I have found my system to have no problems with relation to the chipset. I have the latest BIOS and have my SB Live card plugged into slot 3. The hiccups in the play back are not because of the A7V133 but because of the SB Live. Which I should mention will be getting replaced with a TB when I have the cash. Or, when Santa Cruz's my way.

VIA has been improving its releases but it seems that any good chipset they release lately has to have an A after it. The KT133 was lacking but the KT133A was good. The KT266 was lacking in performance in the memory, the KT266A fixed that. I am thinking that any initial release of a chipset from VIA should not be purchased but that a person should wait for the second iteration.

Any help I can throw your way I will, so please let us help you square your problem up.

Jericho_abx · 12-03-2001, 12:44 PM

Asus CUSL2-C, P4T, and P4T-E have all worked perfect for me under Windows XP. I have not heard very many good things about VIA chipsets.

FlippedBit · 12-03-2001, 12:54 PM

Just curious, what are you going to buy next? Will it still be a VIA?

jwhitemx15 · 12-03-2001, 12:55 PM

Wow, I didn't expect to get this big of a response! Thanks!

Here is my PC in a nutshell:

AMD T-Bird 1200
Asus A7V133 (as you well know)
768mb PC133
Western Digital 60gig HD
ATI Rage Fury MAXX 64mb Video card (no problems with XP)
Sound Blaster Live 5.1 - PCI
Diamond SupraMaxx 56k Modem - PCI
10/100 NIC - not sure of the manufacturer
ATX case w/ 300watt power supply
Trying like hell to get XP installed - Win98 SE works fine

I hope this gives you guys a little more to go on. I know all of my hardware works and is not defective. Everything works great under Win98.

I did update the BIOS from here:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/socka...7v/a7v1009.zip <--- bios 1009
(if this is incorrect for this motherboard please let me know)

I updated the 4 in 1 drivers from here:

http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/4in1/4in1435v.zip <-- via's 4.35 driver

That is what I have done so far and I've got the same result each time. I've even downloaded the XP driver for my sound card. The modem is just a 56k Win Modem, so I'm sure it's compatible (daimond also says it is).

You said you have an A7V133, what did you do that I haven't done? If I don't get this up and running within the next day or so... my wife is gonna kill me! She has a paper to write for school and she's getting sick of using my work laptop!

Thanks again for all of your help. I hope we can get this resolved.

jwhitemx15 · 12-03-2001, 12:59 PM

CRC, a guy I work with has an ABIT KG7 Lite DDR Motherboard and XP installed without any hiccups for him. We have just about the exact same hardwasre too. That's what I was going to buy, something that I know works with XP.

Any suggestions?

Mushkin Rules · 12-03-2001, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jwhitemx15
I have had nothing but problems with my Asus A7V-133 motherboard.

You may view my problems, frustrations, and solutions on VIA's forum site. Below you'll find a link to a few very disturbed former Asus consumers.

http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...d=3835&start=1

Please view it so that others may not fall into the same trap that I did!

Thank You

I have Asus A7V133 too. It works perfectly for about 4 monhts with great overclocking at FSB 160 MHz. Then one day, suddenly without being told, it keeps on rebooting while I was browsing on the internet. I thought it was my Elan Vital 300 W PSU that was dead. I changed PSU with Enermax EG451P-VE 431 Watt -- still kept on reboot, I can't go into bios menu at all. Changed PSU again with Enlight 350 W AMD Approved -- still cannot work. Phew....it stops working for 4 months. Then I brought it to Asus local dealer for a fix. Got it back since 3 weeks ago, and I've been told that there's a problem in the bios. I look carefully to the bios chip that I have mark it for self identification, it looked like it was not replaced at all, but the technician swore that it has been fixed. I haven't got any chance to install it again -- right now busy and having fun with EPOX 8KHA+

StarTraveller · 12-03-2001, 01:06 PM

This is not for the ASUS bit, but more for the VIA bit.

A friend of mine recently purchased an EPoX 8KHA+ (KT266A). When setting it up he basically did everything "wrong". He plugged in PCI cards (NIC and SB Live!) as they used to be placed in his BP6 (without checking for shared slots first). He then let the BIOS auto-configure IRQs for the cards (risking conflicts).

He installed WinXP and has so far only installed updated drivers for his Matrox G400 and SB Live! (no 4-in-1 drivers other than those built into WinXP!). According to my calculations he should have an uptime of about 3%

, but actually his box is stable as a rock and he both plays games and works memory intensive programs

.

Some people just get lucky I guess...

12-03-2001, 06:27 AM	#1
jwhitemx15 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18	I will NEVER buy ASUS AGAIN!!! I have had nothing but problems with my Asus A7V-133 motherboard. You may view my problems, frustrations, and solutions on VIA's forum site. Below you'll find a link to a few very disturbed former Asus consumers. http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...d=3835&start=1 Please view it so that others may not fall into the same trap that I did! Thank You
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12-03-2001, 06:33 AM	#2
Technoman Politically Incorrect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Over River an thru the Woods Posts: 1,355	Sorry to hear about your misfortune ! I happen to think my ASUS motherboard is as good as it gets ! Infact both of em ! But good luck with your new motherboard pic . by the way welcome to the asusboards ! When you get a new motherboard if ya need any help we will all surely try to help ! __________________ System Pictures and Benchmarks P4 3Ghz 800Mhz P4C800 Deluxe-E 1024 Corsiar XMS 3500 C2 Geforce 4 TI4600 Sony DRU-510A Maxtor 120 Gig Samsung SyncMaster 213T LCD Win XP Pro Coolermaster ATCS 201
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12-03-2001, 07:58 AM	#3
deadkenny Dead Technophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 914	I'm not quite clear, is this a new system that has only ever had Windows XP on it? Or was it running another version of Windows previously, and this is an upgrade to XP? If the latter, how did it run under the other O/S? Is it possible that the problem is XP? I mean, heaven forbid, that a brand new version of a Microsoft O/S could actually have bugs in it!
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12-03-2001, 09:15 AM	#5
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	I don't particularly care for the A7V's (I've built two systems with A7V's) myself. But all of my Intel based ASUS boards have been spectacular. I think you have to look at who makes the core logic chipsets and make a decision based on that. Again, let me say to all the VIA/AMD fans that belong and post to this messageboard that these are my own opinions based only on my personal experience. Others may (and do) have a different view. My experience with ASUS/ Intel products will keep me coming back to ASUS time and time again. So, jw, don't lay all the blame at the feet of ASUS. One has to take into consideration the original designer of the chipset.
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12-03-2001, 10:09 AM	#6
jwhitemx15 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18	All of my hardware is compatible and on MS's HCL, with the exception of the motherboard. I built this system the first week on June 2001, and I didn't have any problems running Win98 SE. I've tried a clean install of XP several times and I can't get any of my PCI devices to work. They're recognized and according to XP working properly, but they are not working. I agree that the problem could be in the OS and I can't expect Asus to build a motherboard to support and OS that isn't even in existance when the motherboard is already on the market, but they offer me absolutely no help at all. When I call, all I hear is "we don't support XP at all yet". XP has been out for over a month now, and they can't offer me ANY advice at all? I've been on every messageboard in existance on the internet and I'm finding no help. I'm also seeing many other people that are having problems with other Asus motherboards, not ony the A7V133. Can I hear from an Asus expert that they have a motherboard on the market that is 100% compatible with XP?
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12-03-2001, 08:24 AM	#4
JoeFrat Registered Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850	I'm with DK. After reading your posts over there I don't see much of a solution offered. I build these things every day and I've not had one bad MB yet. What kind of components are you using? Let's see if we can figure out what is causing the problem.
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12-03-2001, 11:29 AM	#7
JoeFrat Registered Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850	P4T-E edit- as a side note, I have seen many pieces of equipment on MS's list and they don't always work. If you'd post how the system is put together(cards, slots, irq assignments etc.) maybe we can help.
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12-03-2001, 12:11 PM	#9
Gorganzola ABXZone > Facebook Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hangin' with the fruits Posts: 9,451	I have an ASUS A7V133. You can see what I have in the way of hardware in my Profile. I run Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98SE, SuSE Linux 7.2 and I don't have any issues with it on the hardware side. I didn't like the fan on the northbridge because it ended up failing, am a little perturbed about that, but I don't need it there since I don't overclock. It placed there by ASUS so those who do overclock can achieve a higher FSB. Removing it also makes my machine a lot quieter (even before it started it failing I found it rather noisy.) Keep in mind, VIA has been well known for having problems with their chipsets but I have found my system to have no problems with relation to the chipset. I have the latest BIOS and have my SB Live card plugged into slot 3. The hiccups in the play back are not because of the A7V133 but because of the SB Live. Which I should mention will be getting replaced with a TB when I have the cash. Or, when Santa Cruz's my way. VIA has been improving its releases but it seems that any good chipset they release lately has to have an A after it. The KT133 was lacking but the KT133A was good. The KT266 was lacking in performance in the memory, the KT266A fixed that. I am thinking that any initial release of a chipset from VIA should not be purchased but that a person should wait for the second iteration. Any help I can throw your way I will, so please let us help you square your problem up. __________________ TTFN. I wasn't asleep at the switch, I was drunk. -- Homer J. Simpson Q. How many dull people does it take to change a lightbulb? A. One. A very useful tool on these forums: You can Meebo in public. Last edited by Gorganzola : 12-03-2001 at 12:17 PM.
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12-03-2001, 12:44 PM	#10
Jericho_abx Unplugged Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Vatican City Posts: 550	Asus CUSL2-C, P4T, and P4T-E have all worked perfect for me under Windows XP. I have not heard very many good things about VIA chipsets.
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12-03-2001, 12:54 PM	#11
FlippedBit a.k.a. CRC Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 739	Just curious, what are you going to buy next? Will it still be a VIA? __________________ Go Solar
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12-03-2001, 12:55 PM	#12
jwhitemx15 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18	Wow, I didn't expect to get this big of a response! Thanks! Here is my PC in a nutshell: AMD T-Bird 1200 Asus A7V133 (as you well know) 768mb PC133 Western Digital 60gig HD ATI Rage Fury MAXX 64mb Video card (no problems with XP) Sound Blaster Live 5.1 - PCI Diamond SupraMaxx 56k Modem - PCI 10/100 NIC - not sure of the manufacturer ATX case w/ 300watt power supply Trying like hell to get XP installed - Win98 SE works fine I hope this gives you guys a little more to go on. I know all of my hardware works and is not defective. Everything works great under Win98. I did update the BIOS from here: ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/socka...7v/a7v1009.zip <--- bios 1009 (if this is incorrect for this motherboard please let me know) I updated the 4 in 1 drivers from here: http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/4in1/4in1435v.zip <-- via's 4.35 driver That is what I have done so far and I've got the same result each time. I've even downloaded the XP driver for my sound card. The modem is just a 56k Win Modem, so I'm sure it's compatible (daimond also says it is). You said you have an A7V133, what did you do that I haven't done? If I don't get this up and running within the next day or so... my wife is gonna kill me! She has a paper to write for school and she's getting sick of using my work laptop! Thanks again for all of your help. I hope we can get this resolved.
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12-03-2001, 12:59 PM	#13
jwhitemx15 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18	CRC, a guy I work with has an ABIT KG7 Lite DDR Motherboard and XP installed without any hiccups for him. We have just about the exact same hardwasre too. That's what I was going to buy, something that I know works with XP. Any suggestions?
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12-03-2001, 01:06 PM	#15
StarTraveller Retired Modder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cloud Nine Posts: 6,468	This is not for the ASUS bit, but more for the VIA bit. A friend of mine recently purchased an EPoX 8KHA+ (KT266A). When setting it up he basically did everything "wrong". He plugged in PCI cards (NIC and SB Live!) as they used to be placed in his BP6 (without checking for shared slots first). He then let the BIOS auto-configure IRQs for the cards (risking conflicts). He installed WinXP and has so far only installed updated drivers for his Matrox G400 and SB Live! (no 4-in-1 drivers other than those built into WinXP!). According to my calculations he should have an uptime of about 3% , but actually his box is stable as a rock and he both plays games and works memory intensive programs . Some people just get lucky I guess... __________________ StarTraveller.net - see Computers for current setup! Well, it used to be current... Right now, my primary computer is a ThinkPad T43p 2668-H7U upgraded to 2 GB RAM Motto: If it is worth doing then it is worth doing right! Caution: The light at the end of a tunnel may be an oncoming train...
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