Backup&restore

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-27-2007, 03:43 PM

Is there free software in one application or program for vista that does -hard drive restore-recovery-partitioning-imaging.
The reason for asking this is to be able to do a system restore from a disk and/or a drive.To be able to have a complete backup for system recovery-image.Partition to put recovery on.
I know that some pc have a recovery partition on them.I have deleted mine to make room and have recovery disks.For some reason the vista gods will not let me have a functioning restore .
Most apps i have seen are for xp or older and some have alot of hoops to go through.
Thanks:newbie:

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Snuffy · 11-27-2007, 04:09 PM

Vista does have the ability to make such.. to DVD or HDD but I suggest that you insure "Shadow Copy" is working.. so that you can use "Restore" which I have found works VERY WELL.
Find and insure it it TURNED ON --> All programs --> Accessories --> System Tools --> System Restore ( it works great for me on every thing I have tested it for...even why you can not boot to Vista - boot to DVD use RESTORE - Cmd function with :

Quote:

System Restore from command line:

rstrui.exe /offline:C:\windows

Quote:

I know that some pc have a recovery partition on them.I have deleted mine to make room and have recovery disks.For some reason the vista gods will not let me have a functioning restore .
Most apps i have seen are for xp or older and some have alot of hoops to go through.

most 3rd party have lots of hoopes... and IMHO - suk not worth the $$$$. I have tested and found Vista backup-restore is about as easy as any of them them...

Buster · 11-27-2007, 04:18 PM

you could try downloading acronis trail version I think it still does a full backup
also another site I use recomends
http://lifehacker.com/software/featu...xml-326086.php
or
http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm
Ihave not used them myself I understand they are freeware

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-27-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snuffy

Vista does have the ability to make such.. to DVD or HDD but I suggest that you insure "Shadow Copy" is working.. so that you can use "Restore" which I have found works VERY WELL.
Find and insure it it TURNED ON --> All programs --> Accessories --> System Tools --> System Restore ( it works great for me on every thing I have tested it for...even why you can not boot to Vista - boot to DVD use RESTORE - Cmd function with :

most 3rd party have lots of hoopes... and IMHO - suk not worth the $$$$. I have tested and found Vista backup-restore is about as easy as any of them them...

The system restore says it does create a point.
But in a matter of an hour or less it is gone.
System restore states that there is no restore point.
Now how do i make it work again.
Thanks again.

Snuffy · 11-27-2007, 05:27 PM

OK, several programs have been noted to delete the restore points...
easy way to assist is DL and install FREE Belarc.. run program save the log as txt file... open and remove all KEYS..(stop the pirates from stealing your KEYS), then either attach the log or link to where we can DL and view...
instead of asking bout all the possible this will make things faster..

Are you dual booting?
Are you using Kaspersky AV?
Are you using CC?
Are you using Nortons?
Are you using Shreeder?
Are you using Eraser.com?
This list is SUPER LONG, SO please post the Belard file... for a faster assist.

Where is this setting at?
increase the amount of space System Restore is allowed to use (My Computer/ Properties/ System Restore and slide the slider to the right).

Snuffy

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-27-2007, 06:41 PM

OK
I went to make a backup to d
After awhile the backup program said it cannot backup because the backup program is not around.
Reading further it says it will not back up to c
Now..this is why I was looking for freeware to do this for me but with the option for restore because I have the recovery disks.
I will assume this is the reason restore is not working.
Is there anyway to add the backup program to d.
Thanks

Snuffy · 11-27-2007, 09:14 PM

Apparently you have a corrupt install... to answer your questions.
1. You can not backup to the same HD that you want to backup.. DOH.
2. otherwise if Vista is on C: then you can not backup to C: but to any other drive on your system... I have use to backup to D, E, F, G, H, or even DVD-RW's..

So either you have a corrupt install, or you simply misread the instructions.
you might try SFC /scannow or a repair from the DVD, or both.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have turned off Back/restore then
1. ORB --> all programs --> accessories --> system tools --> backup status and config --> then click TURN ON

felix8406 · 11-27-2007, 10:01 PM

I'll have to agree with Snuffy; it appears you have a few issues with either Vista or your backup software or both. Backups are fine as long as there are no issues with the software. Even if you get the backup to work, when it's time to recover your PC due to a crash or for any other reasons, you are going to have corrupted files or may not even be able to use the backup.

Try removing the backup program, it's probably deleting System Restore Points; run Disk Cleanup; Run a register cleaner, you can get one free here: http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_...y_cleaner.htm; and run Disk Defragmenter, then check to see if System Restore is working.

Buster · 11-28-2007, 04:16 AM

I use acronis because it is a totally reliable once you have made validated and tested the backup by restoring it You will always be able to restore to this point
I keep the original backup with registration details on a DVD to restore even from a blank hard drive all you have to do is boot from the bootable disc you make with the program and run restore you will be back to the point you started at in less than 30 minutes
as far as I am concerned its the best thing since sliced bread as we old an's say it does not matter what I do to the computer I can restore to any one of three copies I have the original XP pro , VISTA 32bit, VISTA 64 bit with registration details all saved plus later updates as separate backup files they fill most of 500gig hard drive I have just for this saves hrs upon hrs of work in the 27 years i have now been doing this its the best I have ever found.

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-28-2007, 08:09 AM

Geek for ?
I wont go there!!

Thank you BUSTER for answering the original question.

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-28-2007, 10:39 AM

Was able to find an app from Acronis.
The name is DiscWizard for seagate drives.
Also one for maxtor.
Thank you

Buster · 11-28-2007, 11:50 AM

Yeah I forgot they give it away for free I will make a note for future reference

porkbarrelmonkey · 11-28-2007, 02:28 PM

Thanks
Found Acronis for free.
Seagate and Maxter have a full version of there software for the owners of there hds.
Found it I believe through Download.com.
Or Inquirer?

Buster · 11-29-2007, 04:33 AM

Hi I had totally forgotten about that I did get it that way for my Grandson about 18 months ago only to find when i installed discwizard that it was acronis in disguise.
it should work well for you make sure you validate the backup and test it by restoring and also make a bootable disc for acronis you can do so from within the program also burn a copy to dvd that way you can always get your system back in working order quickly
I'm showing of know I have just ordered an LG Blue ray drive sata hope its as good as it looks

felix8406 · 11-30-2007, 01:00 AM

Good sharing PorkBarrelMonkey. Free is almost always good. Thanks.

11-27-2007, 03:43 PM	#1
porkbarrelmonkey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	Backup&restore Is there free software in one application or program for vista that does -hard drive restore-recovery-partitioning-imaging. The reason for asking this is to be able to do a system restore from a disk and/or a drive.To be able to have a complete backup for system recovery-image.Partition to put recovery on. I know that some pc have a recovery partition on them.I have deleted mine to make room and have recovery disks.For some reason the vista gods will not let me have a functioning restore . Most apps i have seen are for xp or older and some have alot of hoops to go through. Thanks:newbie:
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11-27-2007, 04:18 PM	#3
Buster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 145	you could try downloading acronis trail version I think it still does a full backup also another site I use recomends http://lifehacker.com/software/featu...xml-326086.php or http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm Ihave not used them myself I understand they are freeware
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11-27-2007, 05:27 PM	#5
Snuffy Elite Members Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: S.W. Kansas Posts: 2,841	could be a 100 or more 3rd party programs OK, several programs have been noted to delete the restore points... easy way to assist is DL and install FREE Belarc.. run program save the log as txt file... open and remove all KEYS..(stop the pirates from stealing your KEYS), then either attach the log or link to where we can DL and view... instead of asking bout all the possible this will make things faster.. Are you dual booting? Are you using Kaspersky AV? Are you using CC? Are you using Nortons? Are you using Shreeder? Are you using Eraser.com? This list is SUPER LONG, SO please post the Belard file... for a faster assist. Where is this setting at? increase the amount of space System Restore is allowed to use (My Computer/ Properties/ System Restore and slide the slider to the right). Snuffy __________________ [COLOR="DarkRed"]The only Stupid Question is the one you failed to Ask![/color] [COLOR="Blue"]Beta Tester since Pre Win 95.[/COLOR]
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11-27-2007, 06:41 PM	#6
porkbarrelmonkey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	OK I went to make a backup to d After awhile the backup program said it cannot backup because the backup program is not around. Reading further it says it will not back up to c Now..this is why I was looking for freeware to do this for me but with the option for restore because I have the recovery disks. I will assume this is the reason restore is not working. Is there anyway to add the backup program to d. Thanks
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11-27-2007, 09:14 PM	#7
Snuffy Elite Members Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: S.W. Kansas Posts: 2,841	Apparently you have a corrupt install... to answer your questions. 1. You can not backup to the same HD that you want to backup.. DOH. 2. otherwise if Vista is on C: then you can not backup to C: but to any other drive on your system... I have use to backup to D, E, F, G, H, or even DVD-RW's.. So either you have a corrupt install, or you simply misread the instructions. you might try SFC /scannow or a repair from the DVD, or both. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have turned off Back/restore then 1. ORB --> all programs --> accessories --> system tools --> backup status and config --> then click TURN ON __________________ [COLOR="DarkRed"]The only Stupid Question is the one you failed to Ask![/color] [COLOR="Blue"]Beta Tester since Pre Win 95.[/COLOR]
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11-27-2007, 10:01 PM	#8
felix8406 ABXpert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,628	I'll have to agree with Snuffy; it appears you have a few issues with either Vista or your backup software or both. Backups are fine as long as there are no issues with the software. Even if you get the backup to work, when it's time to recover your PC due to a crash or for any other reasons, you are going to have corrupted files or may not even be able to use the backup. Try removing the backup program, it's probably deleting System Restore Points; run Disk Cleanup; Run a register cleaner, you can get one free here: http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_...y_cleaner.htm; and run Disk Defragmenter, then check to see if System Restore is working. __________________ Your site for Free Always software: [URL="http://http://www.softdorm.com/"]http://http://www.softdorm.com/[/URL]
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11-28-2007, 04:16 AM	#9
Buster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 145	I use acronis because it is a totally reliable once you have made validated and tested the backup by restoring it You will always be able to restore to this point I keep the original backup with registration details on a DVD to restore even from a blank hard drive all you have to do is boot from the bootable disc you make with the program and run restore you will be back to the point you started at in less than 30 minutes as far as I am concerned its the best thing since sliced bread as we old an's say it does not matter what I do to the computer I can restore to any one of three copies I have the original XP pro , VISTA 32bit, VISTA 64 bit with registration details all saved plus later updates as separate backup files they fill most of 500gig hard drive I have just for this saves hrs upon hrs of work in the 27 years i have now been doing this its the best I have ever found.
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11-28-2007, 08:09 AM	#10
porkbarrelmonkey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	What is DOH. Geek for ? I wont go there!! Thank you BUSTER for answering the original question.
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11-28-2007, 10:39 AM	#11
porkbarrelmonkey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	DiscWizard(free) Was able to find an app from Acronis. The name is DiscWizard for seagate drives. Also one for maxtor. Thank you
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11-28-2007, 11:50 AM	#12
Buster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 145	Yeah I forgot they give it away for free I will make a note for future reference
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11-28-2007, 02:28 PM	#13
porkbarrelmonkey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	Buster Thanks Found Acronis for free. Seagate and Maxter have a full version of there software for the owners of there hds. Found it I believe through Download.com. Or Inquirer?
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11-29-2007, 04:33 AM	#14
Buster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 145	Hi I had totally forgotten about that I did get it that way for my Grandson about 18 months ago only to find when i installed discwizard that it was acronis in disguise. it should work well for you make sure you validate the backup and test it by restoring and also make a bootable disc for acronis you can do so from within the program also burn a copy to dvd that way you can always get your system back in working order quickly I'm showing of know I have just ordered an LG Blue ray drive sata hope its as good as it looks
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11-30-2007, 01:00 AM	#15
felix8406 ABXpert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,628	Good sharing PorkBarrelMonkey. Free is almost always good. Thanks. __________________ Your site for Free Always software: [URL="http://http://www.softdorm.com/"]http://http://www.softdorm.com/[/URL]
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