OK! It's Almost Clear ~ Upgrade

[rustydog]

First, I wish to thank all of those who have provided valuable information to my questions. Those responses are sincerely appreciated.

Basic Upgrade. From Professional to Basic using the Basic Upgrade retail disk. Skip all the reasons that this is not a wise idea, for now.

I have read all over the place why this can or cannot be done. I think, some are stating that they have 'built' a system with XP and have a retail disk version of XP. As I read that one has to insert the XP disk after or during the insertion of the Basic Upgrade disk.

All the systems that I see are retail desktops from Dell, HP, etc. I don't think any of them provide an XP disk anymore. I think they just gave some sort of 'restore' disk or disks. Restore might be the wrong word, maybe, it is a 'reformat' disk - or whatever. But it is not a retail version of XP with a product code (as far as I can remember).

So, on a system like above, running XP Pro. during the 'upgrade' process, is MS going to ask for the KEY to the XP? or just he key that comes with the retail version of Vista Basic - or both product keys?

And what if: OK, say running XP Pro. and put in the Basic Upgade disk, and something goes wrong. Does one lose both XP and Vista? Or will the system just reject Vista and revert back to XP?

Again, does one need just the product key for Basic or both the product keys to XP and Basic? And, running XP Pro. if one does not have any key to the XP, what happens. And finally, does one need the product key to XP doing a Basic Upgrade or is just the Basic product key enough?

From what I have read, all of this is going to be a 'clean install' using the Basic Upgrade retail disk.

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[crabby]

Hi!

Answers to your questions as follows:

As I read that one has to insert the XP disk after or during the insertion of the Basic Upgrade disk.

You dont require an XP disk ATALL! You simply need XP installed.

...is MS going to ask for the KEY to the XP? or just he key that comes with the retail version of Vista Basic - or both product keys?

The installation will only ask for the Vista product key.

...something goes wrong. Does one lose both XP and Vista? Or will the system just reject Vista and revert back to XP?

If something goes wrong then most likely both operating systems will not be functional. This could be an issue as you need XP installed to upgrade to Vista with an upgrade key. However, using the method shown here: http://www.vistababble.com/forums/in...sta-vista.html you would be able to get vista installed (and completely legally as you still have a redundant XP license).

From what I have read, all of this is going to be a 'clean install' using the Basic Upgrade retail disk.

Correct, you must do a clean install from XP pro to home basic.

Now... do I have permission to tell you why getting BASIC is a bad idea?

crabby

[Znod]

Originally Posted by rustydog

First, I wish to thank all of those who have provided valuable information to my questions. Those responses are sincerely appreciated.

Basic Upgrade. From Professional to Basic using the Basic Upgrade retail disk. Skip all the reasons that this is not a wise idea, for now.

I have read all over the place why this can or cannot be done. I think, some are stating that they have 'built' a system with XP and have a retail disk version of XP. As I read that one has to insert the XP disk after or during the insertion of the Basic Upgrade disk.

All the systems that I see are retail desktops from Dell, HP, etc. I don't think any of them provide an XP disk anymore. I think they just gave some sort of 'restore' disk or disks. Restore might be the wrong word, maybe, it is a 'reformat' disk - or whatever. But it is not a retail version of XP with a product code (as far as I can remember).

So, on a system like above, running XP Pro. during the 'upgrade' process, is MS going to ask for the KEY to the XP? or just he key that comes with the retail version of Vista Basic - or both product keys?

And what if: OK, say running XP Pro. and put in the Basic Upgade disk, and something goes wrong. Does one lose both XP and Vista? Or will the system just reject Vista and revert back to XP?

Again, does one need just the product key for Basic or both the product keys to XP and Basic? And, running XP Pro. if one does not have any key to the XP, what happens. And finally, does one need the product key to XP doing a Basic Upgrade or is just the Basic product key enough?

From what I have read, all of this is going to be a 'clean install' using the Basic Upgrade retail disk.

crabby's info is excellent. I'll only add that to a point, your XP won't be lost if the upgrade fails, but I have never documented how far into the process one has to go for everything to revert to XP. I am good with you installing Basic. But, :sorry: too.

[felix8406]

Originally Posted by rustydog

From what I have read, all of this is going to be a 'clean install' using the Basic Upgrade retail disk.

You need to understand though that a clean install, in your case, would be starting your Vista installation from within Win XP. This will do away with your Win XP Professional license, which is really, in my opinion, a bad choice, but everyone has their reasons.

The link Crabby described is a walk-around so you can keep your Win XP license. Another good choice is to run Vista Basic as dualboot with XP. This will provide you a chance to compare both OS and help you make a better decision on whether or not you want to stick with Vista Basic. Boot from the Vista DVD and install it on a separate partition, this will 30-days to try it.

[Znod]

The only problem with what felix says is that I have determined uneqivocally that either approach violates the Vista EULA. Doing so is a matter of personal choice; I make no judgments--just provide info. Anyway another way to retain XP for an emergency, and to at least "give up" the product key, is to make a disk image of one's XP installation, for example, on an external drive. I sort of like this approach because you can argue that your approach provides a way to reinstall Vista cleanly in an emergency--which is wise because MS has not yet identified a way to do so. At least this way, if you did not use your XP except in an emergency, then you would be, IMO, slightly more in the spirit of compliance with the EULA.

[crabby]

There is no legal issue with installing vista from an upgrade disk in anyway, as long as you hold a redundant XP license which has been superseeded and is not in use.

crabby

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