Defender better worse same

triumph · 06-11-2006, 10:55 AM

Compared to other available options for dealing with Spyware, is Defender, in your opinion, a better alternative, a worse alternative or the same as the other spyware programs out there?

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minimugmike · 06-11-2006, 11:01 AM

I havn't tried using any other spyware as of yet...had to do away with Northon antivirus, had to switch to EZ antivirus....still need to research spyware that will work in vista.

dazzlin · 06-11-2006, 11:01 AM

So far, Defender has worked better for me personally than anything else. But your mileage may vary.

ninikins · 06-11-2006, 05:59 PM

worse IMO. I really dont like it and it appears to have a mind of its own...I'm sticking to my other fave progs and addaware

triumph · 06-17-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ninikins

worse IMO. I really dont like it and it appears to have a mind of its own...I'm sticking to my other fave progs and addaware

Ninikins, what program do you normally use and find better than defender?

mojavekroc · 08-20-2006, 07:13 PM

Defender works just ok for me. I am one who sometimes will run more than one spyware program on my PC...

Avast works good and so does Ad-Aware for free too....

Znod · 08-20-2006, 08:48 PM

I use the same programs as you. All, including Defender, appear to be working very well for me.

crabby · 08-21-2006, 01:38 AM

Unless you are a really useless abuser of the internet, getting ANY spyware for these programs to even spot is difficult!

I 3-4 years I have had 1 trojan and that was cause of my 'lil bro!

Therefore all of this stuff is nice but only a precaution for simpletons

crabby

Znod · 08-21-2006, 09:42 AM

I have only had one significant virus in all my years, and have had no serious spyware. It follows since I am not a "useless abuser."

But, I'm going to stick with my "simpleton" devices. I'm :scared:.

sacredragon · 08-21-2006, 01:02 PM

about 3 years ago i got a class one virus called the chanolba visus (it attacs the processir by overclocking it by 3 times and burns it out) i got it from a cd (microsoft office 2000) that i bought from a computer store .....but that the extent off my problems with viruses and spyware.... still need help with the other post i have from a few days ago i cant get on vista (no start bar ,and no task manager) crabby i need help for both systems.....

crabby · 08-21-2006, 03:59 PM

Explorer looks frigged... If you have a thread could you link me to it? I'd say bung the dvd in and use its restore feature... else more info

crabby

sacredragon · 08-21-2006, 09:51 PM

here was trhe other post ok ive had 5472 on my laptop and tower about 2 weeks.. im having a little problem all my icons dissapear and reapear when it wants to....and the user acount aint working any help ?it on both systems
(exept now add the one two prior with it and then u can help........ps. i tryed from the disk and it failled that didnt work lol i really dont want to format lol

crabby · 08-22-2006, 01:35 AM

I am really having a hard time with this one... So your symptoms are;

1) No start bar or task manager ever?

2) Disappearing and reappearing icons with a faulty user account?

Is it both of those... one of those... neither of those?

Have you tried creating a new user? Can you get to the system restore in vista itself?

Sorry to be of such uselessness... but I can't figure what the actual problem is

crabby

Wiggles · 03-26-2007, 05:56 AM

Defender is ok for deleting startup and programs, etc.
But the perpose of Defender doesn't really show as it doesn't pick up anything as I have Ad-aware SE & Spybot..they seem to pick up the tracking cookies and others but not Defender.

Kinda sucks really..

Midway · 03-26-2007, 04:04 PM

On a security forum I saw that Defender's detection rate was around 46%. I am going to experiment and just use Norton for my malware detection needs (Znod, I think I read post of yours somewhere of doing something similar). AV's now are getting good at detecting malware on their own. Plus the fact that I am running as a Standard User should help even more. Here at work we use Symantec 10.x and since we upgraded from 9.x it seems like me and the SysAdmin don't have to go around and clean up workstations like we used to.

06-11-2006, 10:55 AM	#1
triumph Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 118	Defender better worse same Compared to other available options for dealing with Spyware, is Defender, in your opinion, a better alternative, a worse alternative or the same as the other spyware programs out there?
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06-11-2006, 11:01 AM	#2
minimugmike Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8	I havn't tried using any other spyware as of yet...had to do away with Northon antivirus, had to switch to EZ antivirus....still need to research spyware that will work in vista.
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06-11-2006, 11:01 AM	#3
dazzlin Elite Members Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	So far, Defender has worked better for me personally than anything else. But your mileage may vary. __________________ [B]You'll never [COLOR=orange]shine[/COLOR] if you don't [COLOR=darkorange]glow[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=darkorange] [B]Join our [URL="http://www.vistababble.com"]Windows Vista[/URL] forum or check out [URL="http://vistajunkie.com"]Vista Software[/URL]. [/B][/COLOR]
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06-11-2006, 05:59 PM	#4
ninikins Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 91	worse IMO. I really dont like it and it appears to have a mind of its own...I'm sticking to my other fave progs and addaware
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08-20-2006, 07:13 PM	#6
mojavekroc Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 156	Defender works just ok for me. I am one who sometimes will run more than one spyware program on my PC... Avast works good and so does Ad-Aware for free too....
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08-20-2006, 08:48 PM	#7
Znod ABXpert Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 3,136	I use the same programs as you. All, including Defender, appear to be working very well for me. __________________ [CENTER][sigpic][/sigpic] [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/COLOR][URL=http://homepage.mac.com/donv1/.Pictures/Vista/Bannerxx.jpg][B]Larger Sig Pic Linked Here[/B][/URL][/CENTER]
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08-21-2006, 01:38 AM	#8
crabby Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salisbury, UK Posts: 2,355	Unless you are a really useless abuser of the internet, getting ANY spyware for these programs to even spot is difficult! I 3-4 years I have had 1 trojan and that was cause of my 'lil bro! Therefore all of this stuff is nice but only a precaution for simpletons crabby
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08-21-2006, 09:42 AM	#9
Znod ABXpert Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 3,136	I have only had one significant virus in all my years, and have had no serious spyware. It follows since I am not a "useless abuser." But, I'm going to stick with my "simpleton" devices. I'm :scared:. __________________ [CENTER][sigpic][/sigpic] [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/COLOR][URL=http://homepage.mac.com/donv1/.Pictures/Vista/Bannerxx.jpg][B]Larger Sig Pic Linked Here[/B][/URL][/CENTER]
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08-21-2006, 01:02 PM	#10
sacredragon Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53	had one about 3 years ago i got a class one virus called the chanolba visus (it attacs the processir by overclocking it by 3 times and burns it out) i got it from a cd (microsoft office 2000) that i bought from a computer store .....but that the extent off my problems with viruses and spyware.... still need help with the other post i have from a few days ago i cant get on vista (no start bar ,and no task manager) crabby i need help for both systems..... __________________ Dell Inspiron e1705, intel core duo 2 T7400 (2.16GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB) , 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife , 4 GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz , 200GB 4200rpm SATA Hard Drive , 512MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1700 HyperMemory , 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability , Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD , Integrated Hi-Speed: Dell Draft N Wireless ..
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08-21-2006, 03:59 PM	#11
crabby Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salisbury, UK Posts: 2,355	Explorer looks frigged... If you have a thread could you link me to it? I'd say bung the dvd in and use its restore feature... else more info crabby
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08-21-2006, 09:51 PM	#12
sacredragon Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53	here u go crabby here was trhe other post ok ive had 5472 on my laptop and tower about 2 weeks.. im having a little problem all my icons dissapear and reapear when it wants to....and the user acount aint working any help ?it on both systems (exept now add the one two prior with it and then u can help........ps. i tryed from the disk and it failled that didnt work lol i really dont want to format lol __________________ Dell Inspiron e1705, intel core duo 2 T7400 (2.16GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB) , 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife , 4 GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz , 200GB 4200rpm SATA Hard Drive , 512MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1700 HyperMemory , 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability , Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD , Integrated Hi-Speed: Dell Draft N Wireless ..
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08-22-2006, 01:35 AM	#13
crabby Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salisbury, UK Posts: 2,355	I am really having a hard time with this one... So your symptoms are; 1) No start bar or task manager ever? 2) Disappearing and reappearing icons with a faulty user account? Is it both of those... one of those... neither of those? Have you tried creating a new user? Can you get to the system restore in vista itself? Sorry to be of such uselessness... but I can't figure what the actual problem is crabby
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03-26-2007, 05:56 AM	#14
Wiggles Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 431	Defender is ok for deleting startup and programs, etc. But the perpose of Defender doesn't really show as it doesn't pick up anything as I have Ad-aware SE & Spybot..they seem to pick up the tracking cookies and others but not Defender. Kinda sucks really.. __________________ Host of the Vista Babble Podcast :cool: CCleaner is the best freeware ever! [B][I]I'm back...again! lol (Updated August 2008)[/I][/B] :lol:
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03-26-2007, 04:04 PM	#15
Midway Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SW MS, USA Posts: 168	On a security forum I saw that Defender's detection rate was around 46%. I am going to experiment and just use Norton for my malware detection needs (Znod, I think I read post of yours somewhere of doing something similar). AV's now are getting good at detecting malware on their own. Plus the fact that I am running as a Standard User should help even more. Here at work we use Symantec 10.x and since we upgraded from 9.x it seems like me and the SysAdmin don't have to go around and clean up workstations like we used to. __________________ Mitch Dell Dimension 8300, P4 3.0GHz HT, 1.5GB RAM, 2GB RB, 250 + 80GB HDD, Nvidia 6800XT, X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro, Surfbeam satellite modem Vista Ultimate User
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