2 Laptops need good full help to decide!

[Sylar]

InspironTM 1501 (N0915015A)



Date 14/09/2007 19:22:32 Central Standard Time

Catalog Number 202 Retail ukdhs1



Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id



Base:
AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology TK53 110648 [210-18361] 1


Microsoft Operating System:
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English 83357 [619-10906][640-10551] 11


Hardware Support:
90 Day Base Warranty - Collect and Return 112180 [754-10484] 30


LCD:
15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display with TrueLife™ 76642 [230-10056] 760


Memory:
2048MB 533MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] 91392 [370-11933] 3


Hard Drive:
120GB (5400rpm) SATA Hard Drive 84328 [400-13074] 8


Video Card:
256MB ATI ® Radeon® Xpress 1150 HyperMemory™ 77301 [490-10592] 6


CD/DVD Drives:
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software 91369 [429-12462][429-12463] 16


Primary Battery:
4 cell Lithium-Ion Battery (29 Whr) 88165 [451-10384] 112


Wireless Local Area Networking:
Dell™ Wireless 1390 802.11b/g Mini-PCI Card (for AMD Processors) 75742 [555-10880] 19


Carrying Cases:
No Carry Case 5759 [460-10041] 118


AntiVirus & Security Software:
No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English 89687 [650-10792] 40


Microsoft Application Software:
Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English 9106 [630-11001] 25


Accidental Damage Support:
No Accidental Damage Support 112166 [755-10242] 463


Gedis Bundle Reference:
List N0915015A - DHS 1501 (2) 120754 [200-49326] 22


Order Information:
Inspiron Order - UK 11762 [800-10140] 111


Shipping Documents:
English Documentation with English Power Cord 95811 [340-14089][340-14095][613-10361][640-10395] 21


Modem:
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK 6787 [530-10762][640-10280] 14


Standard Warranty:
90 Day Base Warranty - Collect and Return 111587 [754-10309][767-10008] 29


S&P Flyer:
DHS Promotion Flyer - September - UK 124223 [730-11645] 677


Dell Internet Order:
Dell Internet Order. 21417 [815-10000] 650


Keyboard:
Internal Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) 76833 [583-11393] 4


Dell System Media Kit:
Resource DVD - (Diagnostics & Drivers) 90798 [340-14200] 319


Power Supply:
65W AC Adapter 56631 [450-11244] 41

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Inspiron 6400



Date 14/09/2007 19:32:49 Central Standard Time

Catalog Number 202 Retail ukdhs1



Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id



Base:
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core T2130 Processor (1.86GHz,533MHz,1MB L2 cache) 111040 [210-18405] 1


Microsoft Operating System:
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English 83357 [619-10906][640-10551] 11


Hardware Support:
1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return 111411 [754-10334] 30


LCD:
15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display with TrueLife™ 56607 [230-10035] 760


Keyboard:
Internal Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) 51625 [583-11073] 4


Memory:
2048MB 533MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] 91392 [370-11933] 3


Hard Drive:
60GB (5400rpm) SATA Hard Drive 56615 [400-12404] 8


Video Card:
Intel® Media Accelerator 950 Graphics Up to 256MB shared graphics memory 56623 [490-10482] 6


CD/DVD Drives:
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including software 83297 [429-12431] 16


Primary Battery:
6 cell Lithium-Ion Battery (53 Whr) 56610 [451-10428] 112


Floppy Drives:
No Floppy Drive 25584 [385-10276] 10


Gedis Bundle Reference:
List N09645 - DHS 6400 (1) 120768 [200-49337] 22


Order Information:
Inspiron Order - UK 11762 [800-10140] 111


Shipping Documents:
English Documentation with UK Power Cord 95826 [340-13432][340-13436][613-10317][640-10395] 21


Modem:
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK 6787 [530-10762][640-10280] 14


Standard Warranty:
1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return 111438 [754-10326][767-10009] 29


S&P Flyer:
DHS Promotion Flyer - September - UK 124223 [730-11645] 677


Dell Internet Order:
Dell Internet Order. 21417 [815-10000] 650


Dell System Media Kit:
Resource DVD - (Diagnostics & Drivers) 90798 [340-14200] 319


Wireless Local Area Networking:
Dell™ Wireless 1390 802.11b/g Mini-PCI Card (for Dual-Core Processors) 93484 [555-10917] 19


Colour Choice:
QuickSnap® LCD Back Cover - Cherry Burlwood 28876 [320-10135] 380


Carrying Cases:
No Carry Case 5759 [460-10041] 118


AntiVirus & Security Software:
No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English 89687 [650-10792] 40


Microsoft Application Software:
Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English 9106 [630-11001] 25


Accidental Damage Support:
No Accidental Damage Support 112167 [755-10243] 463


Power Supply:
65W AC Adapter 56631 [450-11244] 41

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[Sylar]

Sorry its long plz don't moderate!

[Vistanoob]

If they are exactly the same price, I think the AMD system is might be a better deal( bigger hard drive)The warranty is only 90 days though. Whatever you decide I hope it works out well.They both have lots of RAM, but the ATI graphics may be better. I would look up the graphics chips online and compare. I would also compare the processors by reviews. But you may not have to, by the time you see this there will probably be way more expert answers than mine. If it were me I would look up the processors online too and review. or see if you could find user reviews on CNET, on the two Dell models. Also check out their tech support and warranty support too, from reviews if you can.
Good luck .

[Sylar]

Nope I saw yours frist! Warranty not really an issue I don't think and I don't really mind on hard drive as I said at the start of the other thread but im just going to look at Cnet reviews good idea!

[Vistanoob]

Thanks! I went there before I bought my router and I'm glad I did. CNET is one of my favorite sites for research on something I want to buy.

[Vistanoob]

Hi again. As far as the price drop, it's kind of hard to predict when,exactly and how much,all I can say is that it should be soon and significant.(I know, kind of vague). I'm going to a Google search and see what comes up. Wish I could be more specific.

[Sylar]

Had a look on Cnet I don't think its that useful for me because Dell systems come in all sorts of setups. However let me know what you find from your Googling and PS congrats on becoming a SM!

[Snuffy]

If I am too be honest...
1. I prefer AMD over Intel
2. I do not like DELL..
3. I prefer a Warranty to No Warranty. 90 days (suks) 1 yr is about right.
90 days is normal for Refurb... 1 yr is normal for NBU. (NIB)
so I in all honesty can not RECOMMEND either system..
Both are Dell Systems.

[Sylar]

1: What is the diff?
2: Why
3: I don't care

And if you had to pick?

[Snuffy]

1. This depends on many things. in days when you could find (unbiased) testing programs, using mobos from the same manufacture except for the CPU. and then using every thing else the same, on swapping them out...
AMD ran faster than Intel .. on 90% of the tests...the tests were ran in house, not over the Internet. which added to many variables.

1a. When I had my shop, I had fewer meltdowns of AMD CPUs than Intel CPUs using the same Heat sink, compound, and fans.
1b. Intel has always been the rather short on support. They offer only Drivers for limited devices, on a regular update basis.
1c. Many of there systems (via Bios) are very limited on what OS they support.
1d. Many of the Win 2000 laptops were designed not to support XP.
the same laptops would only support Win 98 thru win 2000.
1e. (AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology) will run X64 Windows Vista.


2. Dell is to be short on support. Always has been, for the normal user.
2a. I have relation whom work for Dell, will not use the product.
2b. I have personal friends (Dell Techs) who will not use the product.

3. I do not like propietary systems.
4. The very first OEM systems to leak during any test phase, has been DELL.
5. The easiest BIOS to emulate is Dell. (allowing Pirates - 100% activation.)

Every Computer Show I attended in the USA. they only gave 2 different manufacture computer away. ( Intel and Dell ) I always wondered why.

So if you are willing to have No Support from the manufacture or limited support. the Dell would be OK.

Warranty. Not always but limited warranty usually indicates substandard parts or marginal parts installed...or USED and returned-unknown reasons.

1 yr Warranty would be preferred, if it fails then you do have the ability to get it replaced.. (carefully read the Full Warranty). some are back to the manufacture, must have Original Packages, Fully Insured, at your cost. and
only guarantee the product to be fix/repaired at there convenience. Not within a specific time. Warranty back to the place of purchase is always BEST. (sample: bought in USA. return/repair/replacement warranty was only to Taiwan (China) .. )
suggest you check the items in the laptop. make and manufacture so as to find how easy it would be to replace (if needed). many times you can disable and use newer tech if needed to replace..

If I had to chose between only these 2 items..
InspironTM 1501 (N0915015A)

[Vistanoob]

Valuable information Snuffy! Glad I bought an AMD system this time, knowing that. I am also concerned with what I have read about tech support issues with Dell which would concern me and the fact that they use proprietary parts which means, Josh, that if, for example a power supply fails, only a Dell power supply would work for a replacement. (perhaps not the best example for a laptop, but you get the idea).I had to go out and haven't done the search yet, but I will. and thanks for feedback on me being a SM now. And the positive comment.
Tried a google search on predicted price drops, and had little success,so far as I'm not too sure how to word the question. I'll try again using the word "predicted".

[Snuffy]

There are several ways to check prices.
1. most stores have a web site... look for specs there and compare prices.
2. There are several sites that deal in where to buy. "pricewatch" in the USA
3. Check newspapers for local sales.
4. In the USA the Sunday paper is loaded with upcoming weekly sales.
5. Partspc.com (USA) is pretty good also.

[Sylar]

Mabye I should restate my question from what would you buy to which is the better computer? (me I think they are about the same would you all aggree)

[ProCookie]

hehehe Josh got owned but seriously i would recommend u get a decent warranty and i also think dell is a little sucky, I hear terrible things about there customer service all the time.

[Vistanoob]

Me too, that's why I mentioned it twice. In fact, in my first answer, I was giong to ask you, Does it have to be a Dell? Imagine how much of a drag it would be if all that cash was spent, problems came up and the tech support was lousy. That's why, even though I've been tempted by low prices and promises of outstanding support, I resisted. I get a lot of mags from the UK and I see lots of advertizing for PCs. I suggest, if at all possible totry to get one locally. But If those two are the only choices (I don't know your circumstances), the first is the best computer of the two, in my opinion.