Converting IDE to SATA2

traveler · 03-31-2007, 10:30 PM

What problems would I have (if any) if I changed the two internal WD 250 IDE drives currently on my P4P800D to two internal WD 500 SATA2 drives?

Can I just plug the SATA2 drives in along with the IDE drives and transfer my 'C' operating system partition to a SATA2 drive partition and start booting from it? After transfering data, I plan to remove the two IDE drives.

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ATINUT · 03-31-2007, 10:36 PM

There shouldn't be any problems, as long as you set the drives to Cable Select Mode I believe you have to do, as SATA doesn't support slave drives, and then hooke up the IDE to SATA adapter to the drive.

I've done this before and it works.

traveler · 03-31-2007, 10:50 PM

What IDE to SATA adapter?

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3 of 7 · 03-31-2007, 11:45 PM

If the P4P800 has native sata,( I think it does) all you'll have to do is clone the ide drive to the sata (acronis works good for this)... If it doesn't, you need to install the sata drivers onto the ide drive before you clone it..

I think ATI was talking about the molex to sata power adapters.

traveler · 04-01-2007, 12:26 AM

The P4P800D can run up to 4 IDE channels and 2 SATA channels. The 2 SATA channels are rated to transfer 150MB/s and are on the motherboard.

At the moment, my two WD 250 hard drives are connected to the primary IDE channel. So if I add two WD SATA2 drives to the channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 onboard 150MB/s SATA connectors on the motherboard (channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 are the motherboard names for the two connectors), will all go well transfering everything from the master and slave drives on the primary IDE channel to the new drives on channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 and then booting from channel SATA1? I would imagine the WD new harddrive setup software would transfer everthing.

Any problem using a SATA2 drive (300MB/s transfer)?

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**Gorganzola** · 04-01-2007, 12:43 AM

Hey traveler,

The operation shouldn't be too much of an issue. If you are going to keep the install of the OS, and it is Windows XP, I'd recommend Ghosting it across with Ghost 2003 if you can. At worst you might have to boot to the recovery console and run Fixboot but as long as the partition locations aren't changed then it should be fine.

As for the SATA2 drives, they will work fine, the Seagate ones have a jumper on them. When you get a SATA2 controller you can remove the jumper and they will operate in SATA2 mode instead of SATA. I can't speak for other manufacturers at this time.

I hope this helps.

3 of 7 · 04-01-2007, 12:47 AM

It shouldn't be a problem at all, your motherboard and the drives should auto-negotiate to the slower 150 speeds. If you don't see the drives in the bios, you will have to jumper them to 150MB/s..
I buy all my drives in blister packs , so I don't know what software boxed drives are coming with nowdays..

**Gorganzola** · 04-01-2007, 12:54 AM

I've heard about a thing called buying Retail, still haven't figured out what that is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 of 7

I buy all my drives in blister packs , so I don't know what software boxed drives are coming with nowdays..

traveler · 04-01-2007, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorganzola

I've heard about a thing called buying Retail, still haven't figured out what that is.

Thanks Gorgo. Thanks 3 of 7.

Partition Magic is another way to get a new drive setup. I have Partition Magic 8. It's tested up to 300 gig drives. I think I used it on my 250 gig drives. I could try it on a 500.

Any New Hard Drive set up software is downloadable from the manufacturers website.

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**k0NG0** · 04-01-2007, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorganzola

Hey traveler,

The operation shouldn't be too much of an issue. If you are going to keep the install of the OS, and it is Windows XP, I'd recommend Ghosting it across with Ghost 2003 if you can. At worst you might have to boot to the recovery console and run Fixboot but as long as the partition locations aren't changed then it should be fine.

As for the SATA2 drives, they will work fine, the Seagate ones have a jumper on them. When you get a SATA2 controller you can remove the jumper and they will operate in SATA2 mode instead of SATA. I can't speak for other manufacturers at this time.

I hope this helps.

That jumper is collateral for SATA controllers that suck eggs. Pretty much all controllers can auto-negotiate, meaning you don't need the jumper in place at all. Only if it doesn't work is there a need to try the jumper. (Which is good, since if/when you upgrade to a SATA2-capable controller, you may forget you had the jumper and performance won't be as good as it can.)

Western Digital's SE16 Caviars have such a jumper too. Auto-negotiated with my Sil3512A controller with no problems.

traveler · 04-01-2007, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kONGO

That jumper is collateral for SATA controllers that suck eggs. Pretty much all controllers can auto-negotiate, meaning you don't need the jumper in place at all. Only if it doesn't work is there a need to try the jumper. (Which is good, since if/when you upgrade to a SATA2-capable controller, you may forget you had the jumper and performance won't be as good as it can.)

Western Digital's SE16 Caviars have such a jumper too. Auto-negotiated with my Sil3512A controller with no problems.

That's good to know.

Thanks kONGO.

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traveler · 04-05-2007, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATINUT

There shouldn't be any problems, as long as you set the drives to Cable Select Mode I believe you have to do, as SATA doesn't support slave drives, and then hooke up the IDE to SATA adapter to the drive.

I've done this before and it works.

I shoiuld have asked -

What IDE to SATA dongle (adapter) do you use?

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zapionics<alt> · 04-05-2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traveler

I shoiuld have asked -

What IDE to SATA dongle (adapter) do you use?

I dont know about others, but I used a couple of Abit Serillel adapters for a long while and they were excellent without any problems at all. Dont know if you can still get them.

traveler · 04-20-2007, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapionics<alt>

I dont know about others, but I used a couple of Abit Serillel adapters for a long while and they were excellent without any problems at all. Dont know if you can still get them.

I think one can get it still ...

BUT ...

it's for plugging a IDE hard drive into a SATA motherboard!

http://www.abit-usa.com/technology/serillel_new.php

I did not see one for plugging a SATA2 hard drive into a IDE channel.

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zapionics<alt> · 04-20-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traveler

I think one can get it still ...

BUT ...

it's for plugging a IDE hard drive into a SATA motherboard!

...

Sorry!

, must read the whole thread next time...
I never used one of those, good luck with it.

03-31-2007, 10:30 PM	#1
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,178	Converting IDE to SATA2 What problems would I have (if any) if I changed the two internal WD 250 IDE drives currently on my P4P800D to two internal WD 500 SATA2 drives? Can I just plug the SATA2 drives in along with the IDE drives and transfer my 'C' operating system partition to a SATA2 drive partition and start booting from it? After transfering data, I plan to remove the two IDE drives. __________________ Asus P4P800 Deluxe Intel P4 3.2 Extreme Edition @ 3.47 / Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu / Arctic Silver Ceramique 2x512 Mushkin PC3500 222 Black Hi Performance Level II ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X800 XT / Samsung Syncmaster 215TW 21" Wide Screen LCD Two Western Digital 250 Gb Raid Edition hdd's Two Western Digital My Book 500 gigabyte external USB2/Firewire hard drives LiteOn 165H6S DVD Super AllWriter / LiteOn 166s 16x DVD-Rom Onboard LAN Antec SX1240 full tower Soundblaster Audigy 2 zs Platinum / CambridgeSoundworks 5.1 DTT 3500 Digital Speakers Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Razer eXactMat + eXactRest win2000
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03-31-2007, 10:36 PM	#2
ATINUT Just Plain Crazy! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,278	There shouldn't be any problems, as long as you set the drives to Cable Select Mode I believe you have to do, as SATA doesn't support slave drives, and then hooke up the IDE to SATA adapter to the drive. I've done this before and it works. __________________ Intel D975XBX2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 8GB's of Mushkin HP2 6400 memory(DDR2 800) two Sapphire GDDR4 Radeon 3870 videocards HT Omega Claro(Cmedia 8788HD chip) 120GB&200GB&320GB Western Digital harddrives LG DVDROM & LG DVDBURNER HP Deskjet 920C Logitech X-540 speakers Viewsonic VG2030wm 20inch Widescreen LCD Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit with Service Pack 1 Who'se the fool that approved the design for this place. - The Dwarf, Sacred Underworld.
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03-31-2007, 11:45 PM	#4
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,660	If the P4P800 has native sata,( I think it does) all you'll have to do is clone the ide drive to the sata (acronis works good for this)... If it doesn't, you need to install the sata drivers onto the ide drive before you clone it.. I think ATI was talking about the molex to sata power adapters. __________________
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04-01-2007, 12:26 AM	#5
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,178	The P4P800D can run up to 4 IDE channels and 2 SATA channels. The 2 SATA channels are rated to transfer 150MB/s and are on the motherboard. At the moment, my two WD 250 hard drives are connected to the primary IDE channel. So if I add two WD SATA2 drives to the channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 onboard 150MB/s SATA connectors on the motherboard (channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 are the motherboard names for the two connectors), will all go well transfering everything from the master and slave drives on the primary IDE channel to the new drives on channel SATA1 and channel SATA2 and then booting from channel SATA1? I would imagine the WD new harddrive setup software would transfer everthing. Any problem using a SATA2 drive (300MB/s transfer)? __________________ Visit and chat with the Buds at the #ABxZone channel on EFnet Internet Relay Chat If you don't have it then download mIRC from www.mIRC.com
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Gorganzola ABXZone > Facebook Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hangin' with the fruits Posts: 9,404	Hey traveler, The operation shouldn't be too much of an issue. If you are going to keep the install of the OS, and it is Windows XP, I'd recommend Ghosting it across with Ghost 2003 if you can. At worst you might have to boot to the recovery console and run Fixboot but as long as the partition locations aren't changed then it should be fine. As for the SATA2 drives, they will work fine, the Seagate ones have a jumper on them. When you get a SATA2 controller you can remove the jumper and they will operate in SATA2 mode instead of SATA. I can't speak for other manufacturers at this time. I hope this helps. __________________ TTFN. I wasn't asleep at the switch, I was drunk. -- Homer J. Simpson Q. How many dull people does it take to change a lightbulb? A. One. A very useful tool on these forums: You can Meebo in public.
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04-01-2007, 12:47 AM	#7
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,660	It shouldn't be a problem at all, your motherboard and the drives should auto-negotiate to the slower 150 speeds. If you don't see the drives in the bios, you will have to jumper them to 150MB/s.. I buy all my drives in blister packs , so I don't know what software boxed drives are coming with nowdays.. __________________
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