Diagnosic tool does not detect drive - Page 2

**pointreyes** · 01-30-2003, 03:23 PM

I have a bad Maxtor drive that was part of my RAID. I removed the drives from the RAID, attached the drives to my P4PE and Powermax failed to see the drives.

I was able to at least RMA the bad drive to Maxtor without having to provide the Powermax return code. I used Atto to bench test the drive and that is how I discovered the problem.

Otac · 01-30-2003, 05:40 PM

To CMX126: How did it go? Did powermax detect your drive now?

To pointreyes: What was wrong with your harddrive? I took mine out and ran the basic tests with powermax on another pc, and no errors was detected. It worries me a little...could it be that i have a faulty harddrive????

Otac · 01-30-2003, 06:01 PM

Hi guys, i just tryed to replace that driver 'thingie' that somebody suggested: Downloaded it and copied it to the floppy with 'powermax' on it. I was asked to replace 'driver', clicked yes -and you know what....IT WORKS!!! All my drives are detected

FANTASTIC....Maybe i should post this to maxtor.... By the way no errors was detected on my harddrive - at least not on the 90sec test.

**pointreyes** · 01-30-2003, 06:23 PM

Using ATTO for benching.

On my RAID - Writes were down to 25 Meg/sec; reads were down to 70 Meg/sec. Should be getting 75+ Meg/sec writes and 80+ Meg/sec. reads.
Separated the RAID and installed the drives on the P4PE IDE channel.
Drive 1: Writes under 10 Meg/sec; reads under 30 Meg/sec.
Drive 2: Writes and reads at 41 Meg/sec.

Reason for even checking this - besides the slow shutdowns (there is a lot of writing done to the disk with w2k Advanced Server) - my 'puter rebooted. Checked the event log and my disk had a problem. Monitored the RAID with the RAID software and it denoted a problem.

BTW: Thanks for confirming that another file is needed to get Powermax to see the drives.

Otac · 01-31-2003, 03:53 AM

Where can I get this 'ATTO' and is it free?
Is it difficult to use? (i am certainly not an expert, and i've never tryed benchmarking). BTW should i do benchmarking? I'm not getting any disk-errors in the event log. The reason for doing a benchmark test would be that after bying this new PC (P4 2,4 MHz, 512 DDR RAM, 80 GB Maxtor HD, 8MB Cache), i expected a dramatic change in speed compared to my old PC ( AMD 1,4 MHz, 512 SD RAM, 40 GB HD Maxtor (2MB cache))- but no such thing. It still takes about the same time to open up programs, which btw is very slow for some programs and the initial acces to any program after a boot is slow. As soon as one program is accessed after a boot - opening of other programmes becomes faster. Maybe its supposed to be like this i dont know...

**pointreyes** · 01-31-2003, 04:46 AM

I have found benchmarking a way to try to see if my PCs are in the correct range of performance. Benching also lets me see if adding or changing a setting (tweaking) truly helps. Asusboards actually has links to the benchmark tools we use the most on this board: http://www.asusboards.com/download.p...download&sid=2

Atto is very easy to use. You will see the Atto benchmark tool being used quite a bit on this board.

cmx126 · 01-31-2003, 11:23 AM

TO Damun,

Sorry I havent had time to test the chipset.drv file replacement on the Powermax disk. But from what you said after your first post it sounds like it works. I'm goin to test my drive later tonite with the updated disk.

THanks,

Otac · 01-31-2003, 12:23 PM

To pointreyes: I ran a test with ATTO - now what??? Do you know what values are normal? How do I interpret these number????
pls help.

BigCat · 01-31-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by damun
To pointreyes: I ran a test with ATTO - now what??? Do you know what values are normal? How do I interpret these number????
pls help.

damun, post your results. If you have single IDE drive configurations you may get around 40K/40K (read/write) depending on your drives/hardware, etc. If you are running RAID0 you may get over 70K.

My last RAID0 ATTO bench for your reference:

Otac · 01-31-2003, 03:15 PM

Thank you for your help.

Hmm...i don't see your benchmark 'score' anywhere...

I am running a single IDE.
As far as i can see the ratings/score change with the settings in the ATTO. What settings should I be using in the ATTO btw? (Remember...i am NOT an expert on this)

With the settings at the following:
Transfer rate: 0.5 to 1024 kb
Total length: 4 Mb
Overlapped I/O

My 'score' is about 64/42 (write/read) (im guessing that it is the values that starts 'flatting out' that should be read - in this case the max values - am I right?)

BTW how should i be posting the values??? Should they be posted as a 'benchmark file'?

BigCat · 01-31-2003, 03:41 PM

64/42 sounds good for a single drive. yes, your score is the last number reported under the read and write columns on your right. I usually use 32MB as total length. I also defrag the drives and kill antivirus and unnecessary programs while running the test.

Otac · 01-31-2003, 04:12 PM

Thanx alot.
Well i just finished the tests with powermax and everything is ok.
I just tryed to benchmark with ATTO again with the lenght set to 32 and the score is 48/46. Quite good...i guess.
Can I now conclude that the harddrive is OK?

01-30-2003, 03:23 PM	#16
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	I have a bad Maxtor drive that was part of my RAID. I removed the drives from the RAID, attached the drives to my P4PE and Powermax failed to see the drives. I was able to at least RMA the bad drive to Maxtor without having to provide the Powermax return code. I used Atto to bench test the drive and that is how I discovered the problem. __________________
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01-30-2003, 05:40 PM	#17
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	Interesting.... To CMX126: How did it go? Did powermax detect your drive now? To pointreyes: What was wrong with your harddrive? I took mine out and ran the basic tests with powermax on another pc, and no errors was detected. It worries me a little...could it be that i have a faulty harddrive????
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01-30-2003, 06:01 PM	#18
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	Yuhoo...it works Hi guys, i just tryed to replace that driver 'thingie' that somebody suggested: Downloaded it and copied it to the floppy with 'powermax' on it. I was asked to replace 'driver', clicked yes -and you know what....IT WORKS!!! All my drives are detected FANTASTIC....Maybe i should post this to maxtor.... By the way no errors was detected on my harddrive - at least not on the 90sec test.
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01-30-2003, 06:23 PM	#19
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	Using ATTO for benching. On my RAID - Writes were down to 25 Meg/sec; reads were down to 70 Meg/sec. Should be getting 75+ Meg/sec writes and 80+ Meg/sec. reads. Separated the RAID and installed the drives on the P4PE IDE channel. Drive 1: Writes under 10 Meg/sec; reads under 30 Meg/sec. Drive 2: Writes and reads at 41 Meg/sec. Reason for even checking this - besides the slow shutdowns (there is a lot of writing done to the disk with w2k Advanced Server) - my 'puter rebooted. Checked the event log and my disk had a problem. Monitored the RAID with the RAID software and it denoted a problem. BTW: Thanks for confirming that another file is needed to get Powermax to see the drives. __________________
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01-31-2003, 03:53 AM	#20
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	Where can I get this 'ATTO' and is it free? Is it difficult to use? (i am certainly not an expert, and i've never tryed benchmarking). BTW should i do benchmarking? I'm not getting any disk-errors in the event log. The reason for doing a benchmark test would be that after bying this new PC (P4 2,4 MHz, 512 DDR RAM, 80 GB Maxtor HD, 8MB Cache), i expected a dramatic change in speed compared to my old PC ( AMD 1,4 MHz, 512 SD RAM, 40 GB HD Maxtor (2MB cache))- but no such thing. It still takes about the same time to open up programs, which btw is very slow for some programs and the initial acces to any program after a boot is slow. As soon as one program is accessed after a boot - opening of other programmes becomes faster. Maybe its supposed to be like this i dont know...
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01-31-2003, 04:46 AM	#21
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	I have found benchmarking a way to try to see if my PCs are in the correct range of performance. Benching also lets me see if adding or changing a setting (tweaking) truly helps. Asusboards actually has links to the benchmark tools we use the most on this board: http://www.asusboards.com/download.p...download&sid=2 Atto is very easy to use. You will see the Atto benchmark tool being used quite a bit on this board. __________________
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01-31-2003, 11:23 AM	#22
cmx126 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 22	TO Damun, Sorry I havent had time to test the chipset.drv file replacement on the Powermax disk. But from what you said after your first post it sounds like it works. I'm goin to test my drive later tonite with the updated disk. THanks,
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01-31-2003, 12:23 PM	#23
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	To pointreyes: I ran a test with ATTO - now what??? Do you know what values are normal? How do I interpret these number???? pls help.
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01-31-2003, 03:15 PM	#25
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	Thank you for your help. Hmm...i don't see your benchmark 'score' anywhere... I am running a single IDE. As far as i can see the ratings/score change with the settings in the ATTO. What settings should I be using in the ATTO btw? (Remember...i am NOT an expert on this) With the settings at the following: Transfer rate: 0.5 to 1024 kb Total length: 4 Mb Overlapped I/O My 'score' is about 64/42 (write/read) (im guessing that it is the values that starts 'flatting out' that should be read - in this case the max values - am I right?) BTW how should i be posting the values??? Should they be posted as a 'benchmark file'? Last edited by Otac : 01-31-2003 at 03:30 PM.
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01-31-2003, 03:41 PM	#26
BigCat Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 354	64/42 sounds good for a single drive. yes, your score is the last number reported under the read and write columns on your right. I usually use 32MB as total length. I also defrag the drives and kill antivirus and unnecessary programs while running the test. __________________ E6850 @ 3GHz \| ASUS P5K Dlx WiFi (BIOS 0812) \| Zalman 9700 \| 4GB G.SKILL F2-6400PHU2\| EVGA 8800GTS \| Pioneer DVR-112D \| PCPC SILENCER 750 PSU \| Windows Vista x64
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01-31-2003, 04:12 PM	#27
Otac Fatherboard Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 428	Thanx alot. Well i just finished the tests with powermax and everything is ok. I just tryed to benchmark with ATTO again with the lenght set to 32 and the score is 48/46. Quite good...i guess. Can I now conclude that the harddrive is OK? Last edited by Otac : 01-31-2003 at 05:27 PM.
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