harddrive limiting

Tommy44 · 01-28-2003, 05:38 PM

what limits the maximum harddrive size (in GB) in computers. Why can't I put my 120GB harddrive that's in my P4T-E into my older P2B? Is this a bios problem or something? Is there anything that can be done to maximize this limit. I have a 60 GB that works in my P2B but I don't think anything bigger sees the drive.

shaz_abx · 01-28-2003, 05:45 PM

Probably need a BIOS update I would reckon

Tommy44 · 01-28-2003, 05:59 PM

i believe i ahve the most up to date one tho.

blt_abx · 01-28-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tommy44
i believe i ahve the most up to date one tho.

If this is true, you can get around the bios limitation by using a PCI IDE controller card.

dddibley · 01-29-2003, 07:47 PM

Here's some reading material for you Tommy..

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/size_GB8.htm

Left panel on the bottom explains the limitations. All starts with the INT13 interface and extensions.

ddd

Tommy44 · 01-30-2003, 08:35 AM

excellent guide dddibley. this site is packed with good info. what i don't see though is the limit that i hit. i put in a 65GB hard disk. it worked fine

. that means that i passed The 65,536 Cylinder (31.5 GiB / 33.8 GB) Barrier. the next barrier is the The ATA Interface Limit (128 GiB / 137 GB) Barrier. my 65 GB would work, but my 120GB wouldn't work

. 120GB<137GB. i understand much more now, but it still doesn't make sense

dddibley · 01-30-2003, 05:35 PM

Could be the 65GB on your old box is using a 'driver' to fool the BIOS. Most current drives come with this type of install utility. eg. Maxtor has MaxBlast II, WD has EZ-Drive.

I've seen a few references to programs that enable support for drives larger than 64GB in Win9x systems. Might even be a BIOS limitation too. Check your HDD manufacturer for more info

ddd

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Tommy44 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 588	harddrive limiting what limits the maximum harddrive size (in GB) in computers. Why can't I put my 120GB harddrive that's in my P4T-E into my older P2B? Is this a bios problem or something? Is there anything that can be done to maximize this limit. I have a 60 GB that works in my P2B but I don't think anything bigger sees the drive. __________________ Asus A8V Deluxe v2.0 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 512K Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu (Shin Etsu G765 Grease) CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit TWINX2048-3200C2PT 2X 512MB Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPT (old memory) ATI All-In-Wonder X800 XT AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 2X WD Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB Serial ATA NEC ND-3500A DVD+/-RW Dual Layer 16X Plextor 40/12/40A CDR Mitsumi 7-in-1 USB 2.0 Media Drive Antec PerformanceOne P160 ATX Mid Tower Antec NeoPower 480 Power Supply Enermax UC-12FAB-B 120mm Adjustable Speed Fan Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 Samsung SyncMaster 226BW Sony SDM-S93 LCD Monitor -------------------------------------------------- P4T-E (ICS) bios 1007 P4 Northwood 1.8A @ 2.4 with Alpha PAL 8942 Heat Sink (2) Samsung 256 PC800 (4X turbo) ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro 128MB Turtle Beach Santa Cruz (2X) Western Digital 120GB Special Edition Sony DRU530A Dual Format DVD Burner Enermax 435W PS Lian Li PC-65 Case Win XP Pro
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01-28-2003, 05:59 PM	#3
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01-29-2003, 07:47 PM	#5
dddibley Time well wasted Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,276	Here's some reading material for you Tommy.. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/size_GB8.htm Left panel on the bottom explains the limitations. All starts with the INT13 interface and extensions. ddd
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01-30-2003, 08:35 AM	#6
Tommy44 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 588	excellent guide dddibley. this site is packed with good info. what i don't see though is the limit that i hit. i put in a 65GB hard disk. it worked fine . that means that i passed The 65,536 Cylinder (31.5 GiB / 33.8 GB) Barrier. the next barrier is the The ATA Interface Limit (128 GiB / 137 GB) Barrier. my 65 GB would work, but my 120GB wouldn't work . 120GB<137GB. i understand much more now, but it still doesn't make sense __________________ Asus A8V Deluxe v2.0 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 512K Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu (Shin Etsu G765 Grease) CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit TWINX2048-3200C2PT 2X 512MB Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPT (old memory) ATI All-In-Wonder X800 XT AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 2X WD Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB Serial ATA NEC ND-3500A DVD+/-RW Dual Layer 16X Plextor 40/12/40A CDR Mitsumi 7-in-1 USB 2.0 Media Drive Antec PerformanceOne P160 ATX Mid Tower Antec NeoPower 480 Power Supply Enermax UC-12FAB-B 120mm Adjustable Speed Fan Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 Samsung SyncMaster 226BW Sony SDM-S93 LCD Monitor -------------------------------------------------- P4T-E (ICS) bios 1007 P4 Northwood 1.8A @ 2.4 with Alpha PAL 8942 Heat Sink (2) Samsung 256 PC800 (4X turbo) ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro 128MB Turtle Beach Santa Cruz (2X) Western Digital 120GB Special Edition Sony DRU530A Dual Format DVD Burner Enermax 435W PS Lian Li PC-65 Case Win XP Pro
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01-30-2003, 05:35 PM	#7
dddibley Time well wasted Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,276	Could be the 65GB on your old box is using a 'driver' to fool the BIOS. Most current drives come with this type of install utility. eg. Maxtor has MaxBlast II, WD has EZ-Drive. I've seen a few references to programs that enable support for drives larger than 64GB in Win9x systems. Might even be a BIOS limitation too. Check your HDD manufacturer for more info ddd
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