Raptor - Worth it? - Page 5

Sir Skully · 08-04-2008, 10:14 PM

Yeah nice moded rig Bajo...

Now I know whar ma socks disappear to...Bajo

WhiteEclipse · 08-05-2008, 10:39 AM

I read this article concerning the value of additional ram recently. On one page in particular, the author opened 20, then 200 photos using a seagate 7200.10 and a raptor.

With 20 photos, the raptor was .5 to 1.5 seconds faster. With 200 photos, the raptor was up to 130 seconds faster!!!

bit-tech.net | Review - Is More Memory Better?

This confirms my "instinct/feeling" that the raptor is faster in usage, even if other hd's have gotten closer in benchmarks.

traveler · 08-05-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Raven

Does anyone know if the WD 150GB Rapter "X" (with the window panel) is still available? I went to the WD site and looked around and could not find it. I was planning on buying one for my boot drive.

Currently I'm working on a hard drive box mod (Lian-Li PC-71 case) where I cut out the left side of the hard drive box and created a black aluminum frame with an acrylic panel, making a window so that you can see the first hard drive. I am going to mount a LED to illuminate the inside of the window panel. I wanted to mount the Rapter X there so that you can see the platter and the arm. I'm about half done the mod and wouldn't be too pleased to find out that WD doesn't make the Rapter X anymore. If they don't, I was hoping that WD would make a window version of the new 300GB VelociRaptor.

Pix ???

traveler · 08-05-2008, 11:52 AM

I just ordered a Raptor X !!!

Shadow_Raven · 08-05-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gr8Golf

Western Digital - Raptor X 150GB Internal Hard Drive - WD1500AHFDRTL

They are still out there.

I checked that - Best Buy US has it, but Best Buy Canada doesn't. I don't know if Best Buy US ships to Canada. I might have to look for Canadian websites to order from. The other problem is that I need about 7/8 months or so to finish my case mods (it could stretch out longer - things keep popping up. I started this back in 2004!) so if I do get the hard drive now, it's going to be sitting on the shelf for about 1 year before I'm done and build the new pc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by traveler

Pix ???

Case and parts are in storage when I'm not working on them. I don't want to post any pictures until I'm done. I couldn't post anyting now anyway - no flatbed scanner, no printer and no digital camera. In order to post pictures, I would have to use my film camera, fill the roll, take in to be developed and a set of pictures made, have them scan it on to CD, and then use the pictures on the CD to post on the web - too much trouble and money.

traveler · 08-05-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_Raven

I checked that - Best Buy US has it, but Best Buy Canada doesn't. I don't know if Best Buy US ships to Canada. I might have to look for Canadian websites to order from. The other problem is that I need about 7/8 months or so to finish my case mods (it could stretch out longer - things keep popping up. I started this back in 2004!) so if I do get the hard drive now, it's going to be sitting on the shelf for about 1 year before I'm done and build the new pc.

Case and parts are in storage when I'm not working on them. I don't want to post any pictures until I'm done. I couldn't post anyting now anyway - no flatbed scanner, no printer and no digital camera. In order to post pictures, I would have to use my film camera, fill the roll, take in to be developed and a set of pictures made, have them scan it on to CD, and then use the pictures on the CD to post on the web - too much trouble and money.

If you check the Discontinued Products list at the Western Digital site you will find the Raptor X on the list.

The VelociRaptor is probably too small to put a window on it.

No problem re the pix.

Any known problems with the Raptor X for WD to decide not to make it anymore?

Anarchi · 08-25-2008, 02:44 PM

The WD 750GB HDD is faster than the old raptors, and not far off from the new velociraptors plus its cheaper and has a higher capacity. Thats a better option imo.. you could get two of them for a similar price and RAID them

bajo · 08-25-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bobmitch

OK...so I added a second VelociRaptor and am now running the two drives in RAID 0. Even Western Digital recommends RAID 0 with these drives, because of their "Enterprise" nature. Here are the benchmarks...Whew!!!!
These drives are scary!!! Bob

Cool stuff indeed !

..now I can't find my Raptor.. Suzy probably hid it in her socks box.. or in my trunk..!

Baud · 08-25-2008, 07:35 PM

Raid 0 is not a secure way to keep your data safe: you've got the speed, but no security, unless you use some true system backup soft like True Image Home from Acronis.
I am using 3 raptors in raid 5: that means more security but slower performance (no bad performance though).
I also tried Raid 10, but the Intel controler had "some" problems when a suddden restart/reboot was asked, so I abandonned it and went to Raid 5.

traveler · 08-25-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skully

Yeah nice moded rig Bajo...

Yes it is.

Bajo - please see my post and thread at -

Why is XP constantly accessing my HD ???

Anarchi · 08-25-2008, 09:44 PM

(oops double phantom post)

bobmitch · 08-25-2008, 10:06 PM

OK...so I added a second VelociRaptor and am now running the two drives in RAID 0. Even Western Digital recommends RAID 0 with these drives, because of their "Enterprise" nature. Here are the benchmarks...Whew!!!!

These drives are scary!!!

Bob

Baud · 08-25-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajo

Right, tho I'll just make a hole in the top cover... raptor sits on top of a 1tb barracuda..

As I can see, this case looks very much like an AOpen big tower (with self-made wholes on the left side) from a long time ago. I can assure you that this case has a very bad noise isolation (noise protection was not as important as now), and is not at all representative from the isolation of today's cases.

bajo · 08-26-2008, 02:47 AM

I wonder why they did not design a Velociraptor as see-through as well...?

Baud · 08-26-2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedDMN

I definately see the difference with my raptors though they are in RAID0. Things like extracting compressed files are noticibly faster then say if I do it on one of my 7200RPM Seagates. I am not sure how much of that is contributed to the RAID function or the faster spindle speed though. Also if HD noise bothers you that is something to consider. Raptors are pretty loud. Ironically they sound a bit like the old 95 era drives that held 4g maybe.

With a good case, like the Antec P182, the noise produced by 4*150 GB Raptors is negligeable.

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08-05-2008, 10:39 AM	#62
WhiteEclipse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 865	Re: Raptor - Worth it? I read this article concerning the value of additional ram recently. On one page in particular, the author opened 20, then 200 photos using a seagate 7200.10 and a raptor. With 20 photos, the raptor was .5 to 1.5 seconds faster. With 200 photos, the raptor was up to 130 seconds faster!!! bit-tech.net \| Review - Is More Memory Better? This confirms my "instinct/feeling" that the raptor is faster in usage, even if other hd's have gotten closer in benchmarks.
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Anarchi Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	Re: Raptor - Worth it? The WD 750GB HDD is faster than the old raptors, and not far off from the new velociraptors plus its cheaper and has a higher capacity. Thats a better option imo.. you could get two of them for a similar price and RAID them __________________ Mobo: Asus P5B Deluxe CPU: Core 2 Duo E6750 Memory: 2GB Corsair DDR667 Video: GeForce 8800GTS OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 Sound: Auzentech Prelude X-Fi Storage: WD 750GB. (soon SSD!)
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