Two harddisk connected to IDE 0?

DutchBBQ · 01-13-2006, 08:40 AM

I've an AOPEN MX4GR motherboard and 2 IDE/ATA harddisks as well as 1 CD Writer and 1 DVD Writer.

1 Harddisk (master) on which XP-SP2, Programs have been installed and the CD-Writer (slave) is connected to IDE 0.

I bought a 2nd Harddisk as well as a DVD Writer, which I want to connect to IDE 1.
This 2nd harddisk (master) should only function as a back-up harddisk.

Is this set-up correct or should I connect the 2 harddisks to IDE 0 and the CD/DVD Writers to IDE 1?

Looking forward to your expert advice!

PCBruiser · 01-13-2006, 08:43 AM

Either configuration should work, but my personal recommendation would be to make the hard dives masters on each of the two channels, and the opticals the slaves. That will speed up hard drive to hard drive transfers a bit since the two hard drives will be on different IDE channels.

DutchBBQ · 01-13-2006, 08:50 AM

PC Bruiser, the way you're acting SOOOOO quickly to my question is absolutely phenomenal. Thank you!!!

And thanks for your confirmation that my initial set-up is the best.

moregolf · 01-13-2006, 09:17 AM

I would put the IDE that is used on the ATA100 (IDe0 I think) channel, and the other HDD on the master of the IDE1. The do the the opticals as slaves also. I have read (don't know for sure) that similar devices like to be on seperate channels.

*Bofinn* · 01-13-2006, 09:26 AM

ummm...

Markim · 01-13-2006, 06:49 PM

I have always been under the impression that an IDE transfer rate is only as fast as the slowest device on the ribbin cable.
Dont most CD's funtion on a 33mb transfer rate? With a HD utilizing 100mb rate and CD utilizing 33, wouldnt that slow the HD to 33?

moregolf · 01-13-2006, 07:04 PM

If I understand it correctly, if you are transferring from an ATA100 to an ATA33, then that is true. I don't think it makes any difference what other device is on there, as long as you are not transferring to it. IE if you are transferring from one master to another then the slowest drive will be the regulator, so to speak. The interesting thing is that supposedly, if you have two ATA100 drives, you then would want them on the same IDE ATA100 channel, one master and one slave. If you have an ATA33 in the string, then it wouldn't make any difference.

PGIV · 01-13-2006, 11:48 PM

For about $40 you can buy a Promise Ultra 133 TX2 controller card (they also make an Ultra 100 TX2 card for a few dollars less). Then you could put your hard drives on the Promise (boot drive on IDE 1 as master and other drive on IDE 2 as master). Then you can put your optical drives on your motherboard's IDE ports, each as master. Everything will then be on its own channel as masters and will be happy..... Of course you have to have $40 and a spare PCI slot for the Promise.

moregolf · 01-14-2006, 01:05 AM

And I just happen to have 1 of each of these that I will sell. They are NIB.

01-13-2006, 08:40 AM	#1
DutchBBQ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256	Two harddisk connected to IDE 0? I've an AOPEN MX4GR motherboard and 2 IDE/ATA harddisks as well as 1 CD Writer and 1 DVD Writer. 1 Harddisk (master) on which XP-SP2, Programs have been installed and the CD-Writer (slave) is connected to IDE 0. I bought a 2nd Harddisk as well as a DVD Writer, which I want to connect to IDE 1. This 2nd harddisk (master) should only function as a back-up harddisk. Is this set-up correct or should I connect the 2 harddisks to IDE 0 and the CD/DVD Writers to IDE 1? Looking forward to your expert advice!
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01-13-2006, 08:43 AM	#2
PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	Either configuration should work, but my personal recommendation would be to make the hard dives masters on each of the two channels, and the opticals the slaves. That will speed up hard drive to hard drive transfers a bit since the two hard drives will be on different IDE channels.
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01-13-2006, 08:50 AM	#3
DutchBBQ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256	PC Bruiser, the way you're acting SOOOOO quickly to my question is absolutely phenomenal. Thank you!!! And thanks for your confirmation that my initial set-up is the best.
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01-13-2006, 09:17 AM	#4
moregolf Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,464	I would put the IDE that is used on the ATA100 (IDe0 I think) channel, and the other HDD on the master of the IDE1. The do the the opticals as slaves also. I have read (don't know for sure) that similar devices like to be on seperate channels.
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01-13-2006, 06:49 PM	#6
Markim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 807	I have always been under the impression that an IDE transfer rate is only as fast as the slowest device on the ribbin cable. Dont most CD's funtion on a 33mb transfer rate? With a HD utilizing 100mb rate and CD utilizing 33, wouldnt that slow the HD to 33? __________________ My Toys LANPARTY LP-PRO 875B REV B1, Intel 2.8E, 2x512 3500 OCZ, GIGABYTE GV-N57L128DP XFX 6600GT, 80G Seagate SATA SERVER Giga-Byte GA-8KNXP(non ultra)Bios F5,P4-2.6c 800, 2x512MB, PMI 32Mx64 PC3700, Asus Video Card V9280 128mb, 4x80GB Seagate SATA Raid 1 / 5, 1x120gig IDE backup, Test Box: Supermicro P4SBA+, Intel 1.5A, 384mb PC133, 60G IDE Wifes Toys DFI 875P Infinity, Intel 2.4c, Geil PC3500 2x256, 1 80g IDE, 128mb vid, Aopen AX4GPRO, Intel 2.0a, 512mb, 40g IDE, 64mb vid,
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01-13-2006, 07:04 PM	#7
moregolf Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,464	If I understand it correctly, if you are transferring from an ATA100 to an ATA33, then that is true. I don't think it makes any difference what other device is on there, as long as you are not transferring to it. IE if you are transferring from one master to another then the slowest drive will be the regulator, so to speak. The interesting thing is that supposedly, if you have two ATA100 drives, you then would want them on the same IDE ATA100 channel, one master and one slave. If you have an ATA33 in the string, then it wouldn't make any difference.
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01-13-2006, 11:48 PM	#8
PGIV Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 246	For about $40 you can buy a Promise Ultra 133 TX2 controller card (they also make an Ultra 100 TX2 card for a few dollars less). Then you could put your hard drives on the Promise (boot drive on IDE 1 as master and other drive on IDE 2 as master). Then you can put your optical drives on your motherboard's IDE ports, each as master. Everything will then be on its own channel as masters and will be happy..... Of course you have to have $40 and a spare PCI slot for the Promise. __________________ ASUS P5KC \|\| Corsair PC3-10664 2GB (2x1024) @ 1333MHz FSB \|\| Intel C2D E6850 \|\| 2X WD 150 GB Raptor \|\| Enermax Infiniti 720W PSU \|\| eVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra KO, 768 MB, 175.16 Driver \|\| Lite-On LH-20A1S CD/DVD-RW Drive \|\| Sony DDU1615, 16/48 DVD-ROM Drive \|\| ProCase Full Tower \|\| Dell 2707WFP 27" Monitor @ 1920x1200 \|\| Cambridge SoundWorks 'MicroWorks' Speakers \|\| Windows XP Pro/32 bit/SP3
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01-14-2006, 01:05 AM	#9
moregolf Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,464	And I just happen to have 1 of each of these that I will sell. They are NIB.
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