Fell off the wagon.

[Deer Slayer]

I've never been to a doctor to get it checked out, but I'm sure it's starting to show some signs of abuse. It's not like my liver actually causes me pain, but I certainly don't tolerate alcohol as well as I used to. I don't know if it's because of liver function, or I'm just getting old. I dunno, I certainly don't want to find out. So I've pretty much stopped drinking, except for about once a month. I was exagerating when I said my liver is swollen, I didn't drink enough to cause it to be a dire situation, but it's got to last a few more decades. My brother puts his liver through worse, and his works OK still. It took my grandpa a good 20 years to kill his liver, and he drank from the time he got up, till he went to bed. I'm sure the 4 years I put it through of 2-3 nights a week didn't hurt it that bad. I don't actually know what kind of shape my liver is in, one of these days I'll get it checked out. If it was to the point where a doctor told me to stop or die, I would never drink again. It was just my decision to stop, mainly because I didn't want to end up like my grandpa. My body started to react badly to alcohol, and I wasn't really enjoying it any more. Today, I recovered like I used to, by 8:30 am I felt OK! I'm back to normal as far as the reaction goes, so I don't think I did any permanent damage.

It's not that every time I drink I have to get drunk, there are times I've just nursed a couple beers. It's just pointless to drink and not get drunk. I would much rather drink 10 beers in one night than 1 beer per night for 10 days. I dunno, I don't feel the slightest desire to drink again any time soon! I've had my fill for this month.

BTW: Will alcohol actually cause liver pain??? I had no idea it could actually make your liver hurt! If it was damaged that badly, would it be obvious, or could I be sitting here not knowing. I'm not turning yellow, my **** is a normal color, and I don't stay drunk for an excessive ammount of time. A friend of mine screwed his liver so bad, he can drink one beer, and still blow something on a breathalizer 4 hours later!!! He can't even process the alcohol any more, he'll probably drink himself to death like my grandpa. :eek:

[guiness]

[Bofinn]

Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

This year I'm going to be on them like cops on donuts.

dang!

[kswiss]

I really could care less what you think, just thought I would put my 2 cents in, I've had to deal with jealous people all my life, get over it.

Originally Posted by KingTermite

Whatever you say, man! We believe you....really we do.

(wink, wink, nod, nod, know what I mean?)

[Bofinn]

off topic: Hey Kswiss, I told my Mom you love her and she said

"He probably tells that to all the mom's..."

[BBThumper]

Originally Posted by kswiss

I really could care less what you think, just thought I would put my 2 cents in, I've had to deal with jealous people all my life, get over it.

........please take this somewhere else, thk you for understanding this thread is about someone else........

[BBThumper]

Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

BTW: Will alcohol actually cause liver pain??? I had no idea it could actually make your liver hurt! If it was damaged that badly, would it be obvious, or could I be sitting here not knowing. I'm not turning yellow, my **** is a normal color, and I don't stay drunk for an excessive ammount of time. A friend of mine screwed his liver so bad, he can drink one beer, and still blow something on a breathalizer 4 hours later!!! He can't even process the alcohol any more, he'll probably drink himself to death like my grandpa. :eek:

......yes, it does can cause extreme physical pain. Most people don't even know there liver is going bad unless they visit the doc on a regular basis. The description you are giving only happens in the end stages of liver disease, by then its too late but you can kill your liver way before it shows physical signs. Just for your own good, get it checked out.........

[Underwater Mike]

Originally Posted by BBThumper

......yes, it does can cause extreme physical pain. Most people don't even know there liver is going bad unless they visit the doc on a regular basis. The description you are giving only happens in the end stages of liver disease, by then its too late but you can kill your liver way before it shows physical signs. Just for your own good, get it checked out.........

Muscle fatigue and pain are other typical symptoms of liver disease.

I've been on cholesterol medication for 17 years, and have liver function checked annually. If you have any upper-right quadrant tenderness, bloating, muscle problems, or other stuff, get it checked. Takes only a quick bit of blood to test.

[Deer Slayer]

Originally Posted by Underwater Mike

Muscle fatigue and pain are other typical symptoms of liver disease.

I've been on cholesterol medication for 17 years, and have liver function checked annually. If you have any upper-right quadrant tenderness, bloating, muscle problems, or other stuff, get it checked. Takes only a quick bit of blood to test.

Not good, I would wake up after a night of drinking, and and I couldn't move for half the day!!! I would be sore, especially my right shoulder, and neck! I'd be extremely weak, normally I can deal with a couple hundred pounds! I could take an automatic transmission and put it in the back of my truck full of fluid, with the torque converter, and not even be winded! Then I got to the point where something like that would put me down for the night! So I stopped drinking, I figured on the days I didn't drink I was OK. I can do that kind of stuff again, I'm back to normal. The other day I helped my buddy get the dead water heater out of his basement. It still had some water in it, so it weighed robably 300 pounds or so. I took the bottom, and carried it up the stairs. I wasn't even sore when I was done, so I don't think I did anything permanent. I just had to stop or things were going to get serious! So I think my liver is OK, I just can't drink like I used to. I'll get my liver checked out when I go to the doctor next, whenever that may be.

[count minaba]

Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

Today sucked, I found out I owe a bunch of money for taxes that I didn't know about! That really sux, because I'm broke, and don't see any immediate way to make some money!!! I had enough set aside to pay the tax that I thought was due at the end of the year, but it was supposed to be payed quarterly. The bungholes here in michigan have a 5% penalty per month, that goes to a maximum of 25% total, so I owe 25% more than expected. Damn tax laws, there's no way you could hope to understand it without a bunch of education. *** do they expect people to do, they don't make it clear at all what they owe!!! So I'm screwed, say bye bye to my truck, the only thing of value I own. Now I sit here halfway through a bottle of vodka, with no real desire to stop drinking. ***, should have just never filed, at least that way they would take a while to figure it out.

Just saw your post Deer Slayer... man that is real bad news
I hope you get by OK mate.