Well, dang...the cancer's back... - Page 9

XJ. · 06-30-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ

Unfortunately there is no single treatment for cancer, as there are so many different types of it.
I'm off to Houston tomorrow or chemo on Wednesday. Got my laptop this time, though, so I can stay connected.

God speed TQ - will be praying for ya!

johnrr6 · 06-30-2008, 03:26 PM

Been following this thread.....

TRANSMISSION BEGINS...........
06302008 1320 Zulu
CLASSIFICATION: Urgent!
MESSAGE BEGINS........

From: Commander, 1st Battalion, Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment (the other "Rough Riders")

To: TQ, Captain, Bravo Company Commander

Well done Soldier!!
Good plan....
Excellent execution.....
Superb attitude and morale!
The Regiment is Proud of You!!
Keep up the fire!!!!

Original Copy signed,

Risney,
LTC
Commander, 1st Battalion, Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment

MESSAGE ENDS........
TRANSMISSION ENDS........

TQ · 06-30-2008, 05:00 PM

Heh...you guys...

PeterT · 06-30-2008, 05:19 PM

hope the trip and treatments are going well.

TQ · 07-01-2008, 07:49 PM

Treatment didn't go well. For the first time ever I had an allergic reaction to one of my drugs - the Docetaxel.
Normally, one is given Benadryl as part of the pre-treatment prep. It's designed to counter the somewhat common reaction to Docetaxel.
When I was first getting this protocol in 2006 after the first treatment I asked to have the Benadry removed because it made me very tired and took a good twenty-four hours for it to clear my system. We removed it from the prep and I never had a single reaction in all those months.
Today was very different...two weeks ago when I had first round the Benadryl was included. Last week I had asked it be removed from the prep. Today, when the Docetaxel hit my system I began to have trouble breathing and stars began to explode in my vision with unknown constellations. I also felt an enormous pressure building in my chest and head. I began to hit the emergency call button and three nurses briskly arrived and began to pump steroids into my system.
I was going allergic anaphylactic shock.
This all took about sixty seconds from the time I noticed something was wrong until the symptoms began to fade.
Dr. Ho (my oncologist) was unavailable, but the attending physician told me that we were going to reschedule my treatment because I needed to let my body rest and recover.
Naturally, I agreed. I feel like a truck has backed over me and I didn't even get chemo. Such a waste of a perfectly good crappy feeling.

Anyway, I'm back in the room and ravenous, which is apparently a side effect of the steroid used to counteract nausea.

Dinner's here. Got to go.

ctal · 07-01-2008, 08:16 PM

Sorry to hear that, TQ. One suggestion that occurs to me would be to ask them if there is a more modern, less fatiguing, anti-allergy drug that they could use in place of Benadryl.

Also, the Wikipedia article on Docetaxel says as follows:

Premedication with corticosteroids is recommended before each administration of docetaxel to reduce fluid retention and hypersensitive reactions.... Pre-treatment with corticosteroids has been used to decrease hypersensitivity reactions and oedema in response to docetaxel and has shown no effect on the pharmacokinetics of docetaxel.

Best,
-- Al

TQ · 07-01-2008, 08:29 PM

That's the plan. One option would be to increase the Dexamethasone (another of my prep drugs) and decrease the amount of Benadryl.

It was kind of odd thinking I could have possibly died today. It was certainly on my mind when I was having the reaction.

**Gorganzola** · 07-01-2008, 10:00 PM

Damn, if the illness don't kill ya, the treatment will.

I'm just glad you made it through the day.

Stay safe eh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ

That's the plan. One option would be to increase the Dexamethasone (another of my prep drugs) and decrease the amount of Benadryl.

It was kind of odd thinking I could have possibly died today. It was certainly on my mind when I was having the reaction.

TQ · 07-01-2008, 10:15 PM

Shock reactions to chemo have been responsible for deaths. Mrs. TQ was relating a story to me about a co-worker's mom who was on her last treatment, the same protocol she had been on for months. On this one she had an allergic reaction and died. Indeed, the cancer didn't kill her...the treatment did.
These reactions suddenly decide to pop up even if you've never had one. Scary.

Sir Skully · 07-01-2008, 11:44 PM

Prayers, good thoughts, and stardust are working your still with us....

Sir Skully · 07-01-2008, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skully

Prayers, good thoughts, and stardust are working your still with us....

No edit button, should of been you're its late.....

Deer Slayer · 07-02-2008, 02:05 AM

I know antihistamines kill me too. I can't even take sinus pills, it's like I overdosed on vallium, I get so sleepy, it's INSANE! I can't take them if I have things to do, I'm totally not with it when I do take them. I usually only take things like that if I have a SERIOUS cold, and can't sleep. Not only do I feel half dead, my eyeballs feel like they'd been sandpapered, and I snorted a whole box of baking soda when my nose finally dries out. Usually, the treatment is worse than the sickness with colds for me. I can't imagine the dosage you'd have to take to prevent shock. I'm imagining the above symptoms x 1000, plus the normal chemo reaction. Glad it wasn't worse, and the staff was on top of the situation. Hopefully next time goes better, and you can get this under control.

SpeedDMN · 07-02-2008, 05:15 AM

Sorry to be so late in responding to this thread, and hate to hear it TQ. You beat it one time.. you can beat it again! Speaking from reality, death is certain, life is not.. Like to see you be one of the one's that sticks around a while

Besides we need to group some of those Hornadys! See how they do on the range. Got a smart gopher on my a ss now. Didn't know there was a difference, but boy is he a doozy!! PM me any time friend. Texas aint too far! J.F.

TQ · 07-02-2008, 05:57 AM

Grouping Hornady's sounds like a nice distraction...

I couldn't sleep well last night due to the day's exhaustion and the drug I took to counter the allergic reaction. I'd love to just get up and head back to town, but even at five in the morning Houston traffic is already beginning to build towards its crush rush crescendo.
Best for me to hang out in the room and roll out around 9:30.

I'll be glad to get home to the wife and kids.
And speaking of kids, we get a new one in just a few weeks. I should post a link to the litter so you guys can see the little devils.

Sir Skully · 07-02-2008, 10:29 AM

yeah we need pic's...and precongrats on the up and coming new addition to the TQ clan.....

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07-01-2008, 07:49 PM	#125
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... Treatment didn't go well. For the first time ever I had an allergic reaction to one of my drugs - the Docetaxel. Normally, one is given Benadryl as part of the pre-treatment prep. It's designed to counter the somewhat common reaction to Docetaxel. When I was first getting this protocol in 2006 after the first treatment I asked to have the Benadry removed because it made me very tired and took a good twenty-four hours for it to clear my system. We removed it from the prep and I never had a single reaction in all those months. Today was very different...two weeks ago when I had first round the Benadryl was included. Last week I had asked it be removed from the prep. Today, when the Docetaxel hit my system I began to have trouble breathing and stars began to explode in my vision with unknown constellations. I also felt an enormous pressure building in my chest and head. I began to hit the emergency call button and three nurses briskly arrived and began to pump steroids into my system. I was going allergic anaphylactic shock. This all took about sixty seconds from the time I noticed something was wrong until the symptoms began to fade. Dr. Ho (my oncologist) was unavailable, but the attending physician told me that we were going to reschedule my treatment because I needed to let my body rest and recover. Naturally, I agreed. I feel like a truck has backed over me and I didn't even get chemo. Such a waste of a perfectly good crappy feeling. Anyway, I'm back in the room and ravenous, which is apparently a side effect of the steroid used to counteract nausea. Dinner's here. Got to go. __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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07-01-2008, 08:16 PM	#126
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,314	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... Sorry to hear that, TQ. One suggestion that occurs to me would be to ask them if there is a more modern, less fatiguing, anti-allergy drug that they could use in place of Benadryl. Also, the Wikipedia article on Docetaxel says as follows: Premedication with corticosteroids is recommended before each administration of docetaxel to reduce fluid retention and hypersensitive reactions.... Pre-treatment with corticosteroids has been used to decrease hypersensitivity reactions and oedema in response to docetaxel and has shown no effect on the pharmacokinetics of docetaxel. Best, -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States.
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07-01-2008, 08:29 PM	#127
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... That's the plan. One option would be to increase the Dexamethasone (another of my prep drugs) and decrease the amount of Benadryl. It was kind of odd thinking I could have possibly died today. It was certainly on my mind when I was having the reaction. __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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07-01-2008, 10:15 PM	#129
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... Shock reactions to chemo have been responsible for deaths. Mrs. TQ was relating a story to me about a co-worker's mom who was on her last treatment, the same protocol she had been on for months. On this one she had an allergic reaction and died. Indeed, the cancer didn't kill her...the treatment did. These reactions suddenly decide to pop up even if you've never had one. Scary. __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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07-01-2008, 11:44 PM	#130
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07-02-2008, 02:05 AM	#132
Deer Slayer Unscanable!!! Tatoo??? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Howell Michigan Posts: 3,843	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... I know antihistamines kill me too. I can't even take sinus pills, it's like I overdosed on vallium, I get so sleepy, it's INSANE! I can't take them if I have things to do, I'm totally not with it when I do take them. I usually only take things like that if I have a SERIOUS cold, and can't sleep. Not only do I feel half dead, my eyeballs feel like they'd been sandpapered, and I snorted a whole box of baking soda when my nose finally dries out. Usually, the treatment is worse than the sickness with colds for me. I can't imagine the dosage you'd have to take to prevent shock. I'm imagining the above symptoms x 1000, plus the normal chemo reaction. Glad it wasn't worse, and the staff was on top of the situation. Hopefully next time goes better, and you can get this under control.
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07-02-2008, 05:15 AM	#133
SpeedDMN Silicon Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 2,927	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... Sorry to be so late in responding to this thread, and hate to hear it TQ. You beat it one time.. you can beat it again! Speaking from reality, death is certain, life is not.. Like to see you be one of the one's that sticks around a while Besides we need to group some of those Hornadys! See how they do on the range. Got a smart gopher on my a ss now. Didn't know there was a difference, but boy is he a doozy!! PM me any time friend. Texas aint too far! J.F. __________________
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07-02-2008, 05:57 AM	#134
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... Grouping Hornady's sounds like a nice distraction... I couldn't sleep well last night due to the day's exhaustion and the drug I took to counter the allergic reaction. I'd love to just get up and head back to town, but even at five in the morning Houston traffic is already beginning to build towards its crush rush crescendo. Best for me to hang out in the room and roll out around 9:30. I'll be glad to get home to the wife and kids. And speaking of kids, we get a new one in just a few weeks. I should post a link to the litter so you guys can see the little devils. __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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07-02-2008, 10:29 AM	#135
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 25,969	Re: Well, dang...the cancer's back... yeah we need pic's...and precongrats on the up and coming new addition to the TQ clan.....
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