BIOS Password;

gtirr · 08-13-2005, 03:14 PM

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been trying to set a BIOS password on both of my computers. One is a IBM notebook running XP Pro and the other is a desktop running just XP.
I was able to set the password on my notebook without any problems at all.
But on my desktop, when I get into the BIOS - Security- Password, it seems that I'm able to set both a "Supervisor Password" and a "User Password."
However, after hitting F-10 to "Save and exit" nothing happens when I boot up before my system goes into Windows. I've tried this several times with no luck.
So I then went into the Windows and set an Adm. password and a user password.
The password I used has 9 characters and it looked like it would work. However when trying to exit I received an error message saying "This program is not responding and needs to be shut down." So i shut it down, re-booted, and when the Windows Password request comes up, it only allows me to type 3 characters, and then tells me the password is incorrect! Well no ******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now I cannot even get into Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any suggestions on how I can fix this and be able to use my computer again?
The computer I'm on now is my back-up desktop and I had no problems at all putting in a BIOS password and this is also using just XP.
Thanks,
gtirr

UPDATE:

Well I have been able to boot into the "Safe Mode" and remove whatever password I may have entered............
Now I'd sure like to know why I can't enter a bios password to protect this computer while I'm gone??????
I have tried several times and have been able to actually type in a password only to have to effect on boot up. I've even entered a Supervisor password along with a user password with the same results. Can both passwords be the same, or do they have to be different?
Thanks.
gtirr

rjs735 · 08-14-2005, 10:59 AM

You din't mention what brand the desktop was. I would start with the mfg tech support site for any problems with the bios look and see if they have an upgrade to the bios and see if they have any problems with setting pswds.

This is one of the reasons I use a removable hd case then you can pull the hd and lock it up and no need to worry about pwds.

As you found out one of the problems can be that you can't get into the system.

Tapir · 08-14-2005, 09:14 PM

Heloooo! What is the desk top?

azproc · 08-14-2005, 10:00 PM

The BIOS password (supervisor), disallows the user to change most settings, so to not render the system instable by modifying something.

The Windows Password disallows someone to log into an account, most likely what you want to prevent...

However, if the user knows how to get into safe mode, you should also password protect the default administrator account, since that can also remove passwords. In doing this, no one will be able to use the computer unless they take out the hard drive or boot using a password removal utility (hopefully no one will do these).

If you want to be secure, you can keep both passwords; they do not need to be the same, though they can be for your remembrance's sake.

Hope this clears some confusion

mr_boy · 07-11-2006, 06:49 AM

hi....

i am new her,

i need some help, my laptop which ASUS L3500 has a bios password. the problem is i forgot the password.

is this password gone if i flash or upgrade the bios?

wer can i get the flash files?

so pls........... help me......

thanks in advance.

*Bofinn* · 07-11-2006, 10:29 AM

If flashing the bios doesn't work you'll have to get a new bios chip.

(Bullwinkle) · 07-11-2006, 12:34 PM

Actually most motherboards don't compensate for the Buffer overflow condition. Try this: when you get to the screen that is prompting you for the password, hold down any key ( I use the SPACE BAR key for 10-20 seconds) usually this will bypass the password and you can get to the BIOS again to reset the password.

h20-ski · 07-11-2006, 12:35 PM

Well, it looks like you are really going to have to do some remembering. On my laptop, I am 99% sure that the bios chip is soldered on the motherboard, and 100% sure that a bios flash and reset will not remove the password.

Tommy44 · 07-11-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Bullwinkle)

Actually most motherboards don't compensate for the Buffer overflow condition. Try this: when you get to the screen that is prompting you for the password, hold down any key ( I use the SPACE BAR key for 10-20 seconds) usually this will bypass the password and you can get to the BIOS again to reset the password.

Are you kidding me? That actually works?

h20-ski · 07-11-2006, 02:13 PM

Must be on older motherboards, my laptop has overflow control and returns invalid password.

mr_boy · 07-12-2006, 05:22 AM

this is the first time i heard that the space can bypass the password. but i will try... thanks dudes.........

and thanks for all the openion......

H · 07-12-2006, 08:13 AM

one "involved" way around the forgotten BIOS password is to remove the motherboard battery and put it back in after a minute or so. but remember, all settings in the BIOS are re-set...

That is the "motherboard" battery... not the laptop battery (for those with laptops)

h20-ski · 07-12-2006, 10:34 AM

Although I am afraid that if it is a newer laptop, the passwords are written into the motherboard somehow and are not forgotten very easily.

mr_boy · 07-14-2006, 03:34 AM

i already try disconnect the battery. (all the battery) but its stilll thier.

Monkey Hanger · 07-14-2006, 04:08 AM

Laptops use something like EEPROM's for storing data. They do not require power to preserve their settings.
As there is almost no way of resetting a laptop's BIOS you are up the creek in a wire netting canoe without a paddle!
Best option is that the manufacturer can provide an over-riding password!

08-13-2005, 03:14 PM	#1
gtirr STOP, LOOK, LISTEN, LIVE! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 279	BIOS Password; HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been trying to set a BIOS password on both of my computers. One is a IBM notebook running XP Pro and the other is a desktop running just XP. I was able to set the password on my notebook without any problems at all. But on my desktop, when I get into the BIOS - Security- Password, it seems that I'm able to set both a "Supervisor Password" and a "User Password." However, after hitting F-10 to "Save and exit" nothing happens when I boot up before my system goes into Windows. I've tried this several times with no luck. So I then went into the Windows and set an Adm. password and a user password. The password I used has 9 characters and it looked like it would work. However when trying to exit I received an error message saying "This program is not responding and needs to be shut down." So i shut it down, re-booted, and when the Windows Password request comes up, it only allows me to type 3 characters, and then tells me the password is incorrect! Well no *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So now I cannot even get into Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions on how I can fix this and be able to use my computer again? The computer I'm on now is my back-up desktop and I had no problems at all putting in a BIOS password and this is also using just XP. Thanks, gtirr UPDATE: Well I have been able to boot into the "Safe Mode" and remove whatever password I may have entered............ Now I'd sure like to know why I can't enter a bios password to protect this computer while I'm gone?????? I have tried several times and have been able to actually type in a password only to have to effect on boot up. I've even entered a Supervisor password along with a user password with the same results. Can both passwords be the same, or do they have to be different? Thanks. gtirr Last edited by gtirr : 08-13-2005 at 05:51 PM. Reason: UPDATE;*
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08-14-2005, 10:59 AM	#2
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08-14-2005, 10:00 PM	#4
azproc MD of Technology Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 604	The BIOS password (supervisor), disallows the user to change most settings, so to not render the system instable by modifying something. The Windows Password disallows someone to log into an account, most likely what you want to prevent... However, if the user knows how to get into safe mode, you should also password protect the default administrator account, since that can also remove passwords. In doing this, no one will be able to use the computer unless they take out the hard drive or boot using a password removal utility (hopefully no one will do these). If you want to be secure, you can keep both passwords; they do not need to be the same, though they can be for your remembrance's sake. Hope this clears some confusion __________________ Azproc ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - 1101 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 - 2x512MB OCZ PC2-5400 Gold XTC 4-4-4-12 - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - soon to be replaced ASUS EN5750 128MB - Thermaltake TR2 430W - 17 Samsung 710N - XP Pro SP2 Gigabyte GA-8KNXP - F12 - Intel P4 2.4C HT @ 2.88GHz, 240MHz Clock using 5/4 - 2X512MB OCZ Plat. 3200 Dual running 2/3/2/5 - SB LIVE 5.1 - Seagate SATA 120GB - former ATI (BBA) X850XT @ 554/591 - now XFX 7800GS Xtreme @ 460/1350 Thermaltake 480W FC - 20.1 Viewsonic VX2025WM LCD - XP Pro SP2 - 3DMARK 03/05/05 = 11708/5739/5860
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07-11-2006, 06:49 AM	#5
mr_boy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	hi.... i am new her, i need some help, my laptop which ASUS L3500 has a bios password. the problem is i forgot the password. is this password gone if i flash or upgrade the bios? wer can i get the flash files? so pls........... help me...... thanks in advance.
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07-11-2006, 10:29 AM	#6
Bofinn I'm gettin' dizzy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 11,035	If flashing the bios doesn't work you'll have to get a new bios chip. __________________ ---------- JimBo ----------- When in doubt, smack it!
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07-11-2006, 12:34 PM	#7
(Bullwinkle) Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 235	Actually most motherboards don't compensate for the Buffer overflow condition. Try this: when you get to the screen that is prompting you for the password, hold down any key ( I use the SPACE BAR key for 10-20 seconds) usually this will bypass the password and you can get to the BIOS again to reset the password. __________________
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07-11-2006, 12:35 PM	#8
h20-ski Forget Wakeboarding Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	Well, it looks like you are really going to have to do some remembering. On my laptop, I am 99% sure that the bios chip is soldered on the motherboard, and 100% sure that a bios flash and reset will not remove the password. __________________
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07-11-2006, 02:13 PM	#10
h20-ski Forget Wakeboarding Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	Must be on older motherboards, my laptop has overflow control and returns invalid password. __________________
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07-12-2006, 05:22 AM	#11
mr_boy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	this is the first time i heard that the space can bypass the password. but i will try... thanks dudes......... and thanks for all the openion......
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07-12-2006, 08:13 AM	#12
H I'm back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: England Posts: 205	one "involved" way around the forgotten BIOS password is to remove the motherboard battery and put it back in after a minute or so. but remember, all settings in the BIOS are re-set... That is the "motherboard" battery... not the laptop battery (for those with laptops) __________________ SMILE
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07-12-2006, 10:34 AM	#13
h20-ski Forget Wakeboarding Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	Although I am afraid that if it is a newer laptop, the passwords are written into the motherboard somehow and are not forgotten very easily. __________________
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07-14-2006, 03:34 AM	#14
mr_boy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	i already try disconnect the battery. (all the battery) but its stilll thier.
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07-14-2006, 04:08 AM	#15
Monkey Hanger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 10,590	Laptops use something like EEPROM's for storing data. They do not require power to preserve their settings. As there is almost no way of resetting a laptop's BIOS you are up the creek in a wire netting canoe without a paddle! Best option is that the manufacturer can provide an over-riding password!
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