Intel D875PBZLK

[dubobo2]

For anyone interested in a previously released BIOS version for the Intel D875PBZ, go to: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...l&sTy pe=prev

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by dubobo2
I have no recovery P05 floppy, is that something I can make with a floppy and Intel's website?

You can get the P05 Recovery BIOS from this page. Follow the instructions on that page to use it. It's real easy.

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by JimTram
Sandog thanks. I looked again in the retail box and nothing. I like the copper shim on the HSF - it leaves a good footprint on the CPU.
The CPU was boxed in July 17, so it may be a later revision HSF which includes the copper shim for enhanced conductivity?

Jim T.

All P4s from 3.0GHz and up have that revised copper/aluminum hybrid HSF. It's designed to handle the higher heat output of those processors. Thos heatsinks do not utilize the black thermal pad that all the previous Intel HSFs used. There is supposed to be a small tube of thermal grease in the box but about 30-40% of the samples I've seen do not have the tube in the box! Go figure...

You should do as Sandog suggested and get yourself a tube of thermal grease from CompUSA or Radio Shack, or some ASIII, Ceramique or AS5 from an online supplier like SVC.com.

[JimTram]

Thanks Ralf.

I called Intel today to voice my displeasure. They kinda said the same thing you did about missing interface material. They'll send me a syringe. Of course they did say Artic Silver is fine - but when I get their syringe, remove the Artic Silver and apply theirs.

Meanwhile I'll go out and pickup some Artic Silver so I do not have to wait a week to get it up and running. Certainly a very impressive HSF. Hope it works as good as it looks.

Jim T.

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
All P4s from 3.0GHz and up have that revised copper/aluminum hybrid HSF. It's designed to handle the higher heat output of those processors. Thos heatsinks do not utilize the black thermal pad that all the previous Intel HSFs used. There is supposed to be a small tube of thermal grease in the box but about 30-40% of the samples I've seen do not have the tube in the box! Go figure...

You should do as Sandog suggested and get yourself a tube of thermal grease from CompUSA or Radio Shack, or some ASIII, Ceramique or AS5 from an online supplier like SVC.com.

[Sandog]

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
All P4s from 3.0GHz and up have that revised copper/aluminum hybrid HSF. It's designed to handle the higher heat output of those processors. Thos heatsinks do not utilize the black thermal pad that all the previous Intel HSFs used. There is supposed to be a small tube of thermal grease in the box but about 30-40% of the samples I've seen do not have the tube in the box! Go figure...

You should do as Sandog suggested and get yourself a tube of thermal grease from CompUSA or Radio Shack, or some ASIII, Ceramique or AS5 from an online supplier like SVC.com.

I just bought a brand new retail P4 3.2GHz last week and it has a pad on the heatsink. My last P4(3.0) had the syringe. I don't think that pad works quit as well as liquid/paste does which really gets into the surface pores. The attached pad surely has tiny air pockets underneath it when applied at the factory. It is just easier with an attached pad for the non-professional to apply the heatsink. I think Intel may have went back to the pad because there is less installation risk or hassle. I might have just received an old heatsink with my processor but it does have the circular copper slug and the fin layout is new.

This is the heatsink I will be using on my new system.
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merc...gory_Code=0030

[Ralf Hutter]

Well Glory Effing Be, I just got my first cold boot error with P16. Flashed it 2 days ago. It's probably been started/restarted 50+ times since then (I'm installing a new OS). It happened this moring on a cold boot after being turned off over night. That was also what would happen with P14.

Back to P05 for the zillionth time....

[Quantrel]

I have had cold boot issues with P16 but only twice in several weeks.....lot better compared to P14.

[Sandog]

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
Well Glory Effing Be, I just got my first cold boot error with P16. Flashed it 2 days ago. It's probably been started/restarted 50+ times since then (I'm installing a new OS). It happened this moring on a cold boot after being turned off over night. That was also what would happen with P14.

Back to P05 for the zillionth time....

You know I might just run BIOS PO5 on my new system since I am looking for speed and having PAT enabled would be nice. I always got the best benchies with PO5. One also doesn't want to see their new supposedly perfect system having any problems. See I might not need to run IDCC or want to. IAM would be fine to just give me notice of overheating. I want to have +4% burn in mode on always and 2-2-2-5/6 timings always so there is nothing to change really. I can load Application Accelerator 3.0 again also for my RAID 0 setup. The only problem with PO5 is it probably will not work with the future Prescott processor. It's ironic that the only BIOS that appears to get PAT enabled also has no cold/warm boot issues. Maybe we should wait on a new BIOS that shows PAT enabled again before we can rest assured that the cold boot issue is totally resolved. That would be so cool to see PAT enabled again on a current BIOS, with PAT enabled and no cold boot issues this board would be killer.

[dubobo2]

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
Well Glory Effing Be, I just got my first cold boot error with P16. Flashed it 2 days ago. It's probably been started/restarted 50+ times since then (I'm installing a new OS). It happened this moring on a cold boot after being turned off over night. That was also what would happen with P14.

Back to P05 for the zillionth time....

Me too Ralf. I spent 45 minutes on the phone with Intel, and they couldn't explain my issues with P16. I used the P05 recovery disk you pointed me to, thanks. After I hung up with Intel, I stepped up gradually from P05 to P09 to P12 to P16. Once I got to P12 and above, all my problems came back. I had it running stable last night, and shut it down. Came in this morning, fired it up, and, BAM!!! So now I'm back to P05 and running stable.
You mentioned the other day that when setting up a new D875PBZ we should go in and set our timings to something loose like, 2.5-3-3-8. My board came with P05 and it already had:
RAS act. to PRE 8
CAS# Latency 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Is this the same timing that you were refering to? Do you know of a good source that I can use to learn about all of this timing and tweakin' stuff? Maybe another part of this forum, or the overclockers.com forum. I realize this board can only be overclocked 4%, but it's the education I'm interested in. Is there a great book that will walk me thru from point A to point B? Thanks for reading all of this, and I apologize if these questions are too basic for this thread.

[bjbgraphics]

Originally posted by dubobo2
Me too Ralf. I spent 45 minutes on the phone with Intel, and they couldn't explain my issues with P16. I used the P05 recovery disk you pointed me to, thanks. After I hung up with Intel, I stepped up gradually from P05 to P09 to P12 to P16. Once I got to P12 and above, all my problems came back. I had it running stable last night, and shut it down. Came in this morning, fired it up, and, BAM!!! So now I'm back to P05 and running stable.
You mentioned the other day that when setting up a new D875PBZ we should go in and set our timings to something loose like, 2.5-3-3-8. My board came with P05 and it already had:
RAS act. to PRE 8
CAS# Latency 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Is this the same timing that you were refering to? Do you know of a good source that I can use to learn about all of this timing and tweakin' stuff? Maybe another part of this forum, or the overclockers.com forum. I realize this board can only be overclocked 4%, but it's the education I'm interested in. Is there a great book that will walk me thru from point A to point B? Thanks for reading all of this, and I apologize if these questions are too basic for this thread.

Hello dubobo2, welcome to the forums and this thread. A really great explanation of Memory timings and tweaks can be found here on Corsair's site: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...707/index.html

I have been running BIOS P05 for awhile now with 2-3-3-6 manual memory settings for my 3200LL modules. Haven't had any cold boot problems at all, and perfect stability. Good Luck with everything.

BJB

[dubobo2]

Thanks BJB! I'll check it out.

[opdirect]

Originally posted by opdirect
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[Riptide]

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
Well Glory Effing Be, I just got my first cold boot error with P16. Flashed it 2 days ago. It's probably been started/restarted 50+ times since then (I'm installing a new OS). It happened this moring on a cold boot after being turned off over night. That was also what would happen with P14.

Back to P05 for the zillionth time....

Ralf man, you are as bad as me! What a bunch of perfectionists we are eh? I'm not trying to sound like I'm being overly critical here but if it only did it once in 50+ starts is that even really an issue? There was a time when I would obsess over this stuf but I have since accepted that PCs, having been built by people, are always going to have some stupid little issue. I have a real hard time thinking of many current motherboards that don't have at least some stupid idiosyncracy. I am like everyone else for the most part: this stuff should just *work* out of the box as advertised and we shouldn't have to deal with this crap. But sooner or later I end up accepting that "this thing" is never gonna be perfect.

I've had one coldboot problem with P16. I don't intend to go back because my PC works just fine once it's up and running in windows. Completely stable (ok, maybe not, but this is windows after all). Errr, 99% stable how's that? Last week I rebooted after upgrading my audigy drivers and the PC had been up for almost two weeks w/no errors in event viewer. And that's with running the CPU at 100% most of the time w/SETI and games.

I have decided to be happy.

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by Riptide
Ralf man, you are as bad as me! What a bunch of perfectionists we are eh? I'm not trying to sound like I'm being overly critical here but if it only did it once in 50+ starts is that even really an issue? There was a time when I would obsess over this stuf but I have since accepted that PCs, having been built by people, are always going to have some stupid little issue. I have a real hard time thinking of many current motherboards that don't have at least some stupid idiosyncracy. I am like everyone else for the most part: this stuff should just *work* out of the box as advertised and we shouldn't have to deal with this crap. But sooner or later I end up accepting that "this thing" is never gonna be perfect.

I've had one coldboot problem with P16. I don't intend to go back because my PC works just fine once it's up and running in windows. Completely stable (ok, maybe not, but this is windows after all). Errr, 99% stable how's that? Last week I rebooted after upgrading my audigy drivers and the PC had been up for almost two weeks w/no errors in event viewer. And that's with running the CPU at 100% most of the time w/SETI and games.

I have decided to be happy.

But I've never had any problems with any (post i810) chipset Intel board before.

Every Intel board I've used has started every time and had zero BIOS-related issues so that's what I'm used to. They are simply the most well designed, stable-est(sp?) boards you can get.

And that's why I got this 875PBZ instead of an Asus or Abit or whatever. I did not want to deal with the few niggling glitches that exist on other boards. So now I'm obssesed with getting this damn 875PBZ running right. It's such a nice fast board, it's a shame the BIOS problems are casting a shadow over it.

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by opdirect

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Right on bro, 05!!