Intel D875PBZLK - Page 103

Riptide · 11-08-2003, 10:50 AM

That's to bad, from the sound of it I should've been going Intel as far as my motherboard choice goes all the way back to when I had a PII. Having gone Abit/Asus up until now I've always had to deal with one little stupid problem or another. So I'm used to this... Sounds like you've been living the good life!

FWIW, I'm still pretty happy with this motherboard. It's not perfect but since I'm used to imperfect I guess I'm a bit more forgiving than you.

To be honest, the mx700/hardware monitor issue is more of a pain for me than the coldboot deal. I hope they fix that sooner or later. They've had some time already though and it's still broken for me which would indicate perhaps they can't fix that.

Andy2 · 11-08-2003, 03:09 PM

It has always been that the intel boards gave you perfection in exchange for no over clocking. I do not think giving us a 4 percent overclock is enough if they are taking away the perfection.

JimTram · 11-08-2003, 04:19 PM

I got the new board installed and I am up and running! I followed the guidance from this thread, including the artic silver

and all I can say is what a nice board!

Nothing unusual came up, the BIOS upgrade was smooth, no cold starting problems yet. I even remembered to remove my Zip 250 connection prior to install of the OS so XP would letter the drives correctly the first time. Front panel header gave me a bit of a problem as I originally put the case LED's connectors on the correct pins, but had the connection reversed thus no LED's. That's fixed now.

No problems with DCC as I installed IAM first. Ran the stress tests over night, no errors and max CPU temp was 116F.

Perhaps later I'll replace my 512 (2x256) Kingston Value RAM 3-3-3-8, with something a bit faster. Boot time is currently 8-10 sec., and I am happy enough with my 3dMark03 scores at ~5800.

Question: What exactly is the "cold boot" problem? I would hate to miss it because I am not sure what it is in the first place!

Thanks all for the guidance, and specifically Sandog for this thread.

Jim T.

Quote:

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter
All P4s from 3.0GHz and up have that revised copper/aluminum hybrid HSF. It's designed to handle the higher heat output of those processors. Thos heatsinks do not utilize the black thermal pad that all the previous Intel HSFs used. There is supposed to be a small tube of thermal grease in the box but about 30-40% of the samples I've seen do not have the tube in the box! Go figure...

You should do as Sandog suggested and get yourself a tube of thermal grease from CompUSA or Radio Shack, or some ASIII, Ceramique or AS5 from an online supplier like SVC.com.

CK8-04 · 11-08-2003, 08:35 PM

Will I encounter any problems if I use Corsair XMS pc3200 low latency moduels on this board?

AHLnut · 11-08-2003, 10:39 PM

Jim, the cold boot problem is real simple to spot. If your computer is turned off, and you hit the power button, you will hear the fans spin up, but nothing happens. You will then need to hit the reset button once or twice to get it to boot. That's it.

JimTram · 11-08-2003, 11:30 PM

Thanks AHLnut - I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Jim T.

Quote:

Originally posted by AHLnut
Jim, the cold boot problem is real simple to spot. If your computer is turned off, and you hit the power button, you will hear the fans spin up, but nothing happens. You will then need to hit the reset button once or twice to get it to boot. That's it.

falcon26 · 11-09-2003, 02:35 AM

Its been awhile since I posted to this thread.....but my question is, has the "Bad Pool Caller" errors been corrected on the Intel I865PERL board yet? And the cold boots as well?

Thanks, Falcon26

casey_abx · 11-09-2003, 08:12 AM

I have build approx 14 865perl systems since June 2003 (running 2 at home) and have never had any Cold boot, warm boot or bad pool caller problem until I build a system 3 weeks ago that came with BIOS P09, BAD POOL CALLER message on first startup! not to mention the fact that during Win XP original install I had to reset the PC 4 times as it froze at 35% install progress, and during the first startup after the install the RAID0 array "broke up by itself" luckily the board has a recover function if you lose the array.
Whar a POS Bios is P09
Reflashed to P08 faultless, together with P06 no problems at all.

bjbgraphics · 11-09-2003, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildragon1
Will I encounter any problems if I use Corsair XMS pc3200 low latency moduels on this board?

Hello evildragon1,

I have been running my Corsair XMS 3200 Low Latency Modules since I got the board. I am running them at 2-3-3-6 timings and P05 BIOS and have no problems.

I had a very slight problem with the default SPD 2-3-2-6 timings in Photoshop. My layers pallette kept dissapearing on my projects and I had to restart the program. I have not had that problem since I went to 2-3-3-6 timings.

Good Luck,

EDIT: I am using the TwinX matched pair 2 x 256 of these modules in Dual Channel. Channel A Dimm 0 & Channel B Dimm 0. 512 MB total.

BJB

CK8-04 · 11-09-2003, 10:15 AM

Thanks for your reply, BJB. Was that the only problem you had? Did you have any stability problems at default timings?

bjbgraphics · 11-09-2003, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildragon1
Thanks for your reply, BJB. Was that the only problem you had? Did you have any stability problems at default timings?

Hey, no problem.

With BIOS P05... Yes. Stability problems? No. I used the 2-3-2-6 SPD Auto Timings quite succesfully right from the onset of installing the board. I installed Windows XP, all my programs, games...etc. I had no problems except the known BIOS P09 (I updated my P05 immediately to P09 when I first got the board) errata. I went to P12 and, like everyone else, got even more errata. I then went back to P05 and had no problems except my Photoshop layer problem in Windows.

Set my Ram to 2-3-3-6 and have been good to go. You may very have no problems with your 3200LLs set at 2-3-2-6 since it was merely an isolated incident with a program that I encountered.

If you want more details just go through my posts in this thread. They document everything pretty thoroughly. :-)

BJB

Andy2 · 11-09-2003, 07:06 PM

Does p16 fix anything. I am currently using p14. Is there a way to go back to p05.

Andy2 · 11-09-2003, 10:00 PM

I am assuming p05 is still the best bios. Is that correct ?

Ralf Hutter · 11-10-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy2
I am assuming p05 is still the best bios. Is that correct ?

Yes it is, as far as I'm concerned.

It's the latest BIOS that still has PAT enabled and it also doesn't have any of the cold boot/reboot issues of P09-P16.

Ralf Hutter · 11-10-2003, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy2
Does p16 fix anything. I am currently using p14.

It didn't fix anything for me. I still got the coldboot issue. Others reported that the coldboot issue got better with P16 but wasn't entirely fixed.

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy2
Is there a way to go back to p05.

Of course. You can just flash it back to an earlier version just the same way you'd flash it to a newer version.

All three versions (Windows flash, Floppy flash and Recovery flash) are available from here .

My personal preference is the floppy flash method. I've never been a fan of flashing via Windows. There's just too many more things that can go wrong during this critical procedure.

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11-08-2003, 03:09 PM	#1532
Andy2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 256	It has always been that the intel boards gave you perfection in exchange for no over clocking. I do not think giving us a 4 percent overclock is enough if they are taking away the perfection.
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11-08-2003, 08:35 PM	#1534
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11-08-2003, 10:39 PM	#1535
AHLnut Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,124	Jim, the cold boot problem is real simple to spot. If your computer is turned off, and you hit the power button, you will hear the fans spin up, but nothing happens. You will then need to hit the reset button once or twice to get it to boot. That's it. __________________ System 1 Asus A8N-SLI Premium - AMD X2 3800+ - OCZ 2x1GB EL Platinum - 2 BFG 7800GT OC in SLI - Soundblaster X-Fi - 2 36 GB Raptor in Raid 0 - WD 400KD - WD 250JB - Plextor PS-716A - Plextor 48x24x48 - Antec Neo-Power 480 - Antec Super Lanboy - WinXP Pro SP2. System 2 Abit IC7 - 3.0C Intel CPU - 2x512 Geil Golden Dragon DDR433 - BFG 6800 GT OC - WD 200JB - Seagate 200GB 7200.7 - 3COM 905CX-TXNM NIC(PCI 2) - Audigy 2(PCI 3) - Plextor PX-708A DVD+- RW combo drive - Plextor 48x24x48 CD-RW drive - Antec 3700BQE case with TP430 PSU - XP SP2 slipstreamed.
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11-09-2003, 02:35 AM	#1537
falcon26 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 201	Its been awhile since I posted to this thread.....but my question is, has the "Bad Pool Caller" errors been corrected on the Intel I865PERL board yet? And the cold boots as well? Thanks, Falcon26
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11-09-2003, 08:12 AM	#1538
casey_abx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cape Town S. Africa Posts: 288	I have build approx 14 865perl systems since June 2003 (running 2 at home) and have never had any Cold boot, warm boot or bad pool caller problem until I build a system 3 weeks ago that came with BIOS P09, BAD POOL CALLER message on first startup! not to mention the fact that during Win XP original install I had to reset the PC 4 times as it froze at 35% install progress, and during the first startup after the install the RAID0 array "broke up by itself" luckily the board has a recover function if you lose the array. Whar a POS Bios is P09 Reflashed to P08 faultless, together with P06 no problems at all.
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11-09-2003, 10:15 AM	#1540
CK8-04 nVidia nForce 4 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Malden, MA Posts: 951	Thanks for your reply, BJB. Was that the only problem you had? Did you have any stability problems at default timings? __________________ "To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift" - Steve Prefontaine Antec Solo Corsair 520HX Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 w/ TR SI-128 SE Intel D975XBX2 4GB Corsair DHX DDR2-800 eVGA e-Geforce 8800GT w/ TR T-Rad2 WD Raptor 74GB 16MB NEC Multisync LCD2090UXi Logitech Z-5300 MS Comfort Curve KB 2000 Logitech G3
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Andy2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 256	Does p16 fix anything. I am currently using p14. Is there a way to go back to p05.
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11-09-2003, 10:00 PM	#1543
Andy2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 256	I am assuming p05 is still the best bios. Is that correct ?
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