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Old 06-09-2004, 11:10 PM   #7516
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Yeah I think with the mature BIOS's 4-sticks will be fine. 4 equal sticks are suppose to be the fastest setup also according to Intel.


By the way, not that I am suggesting that you should have looked but I remember posting that article link before post 1000 I believe and then again when somebody was asking about it around post 5K. Good article and only one of a few on that subject still around. There were a half-dozen articles around when it was proven that PAT was disabled with 4-DIMMS installed but that was a long time ago. My problem with is when I had 4-DIMMS was my Sandra scores were the same but PAT was disabled (PO5). Also my system kept crashing but I am almost positive that was having 4 OCZ BH5 modules almost touching one another and an improperly cooled case. Hehe, I remember putting all my stuff in the case and one fan at the back and forgetting about cooling.

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Old 06-09-2004, 11:22 PM   #7517
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Hi Sandog - glad things are solidifying for you. Since you asked - I had Dimsum for dinner, specifically rice-paper-wrapped shrimp and scallops. Tomorrow is my favorite in the whole world - meatloaf and mashed potatoes.

Think I'll go d/l the 4.6's now

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I don't get meatloaf enough. Here's a real surprising tip. Put ketchup on top when you bake it in the oven. It comes out like a paste and taste tangy and sweet.

Also my Salmon is not burgandy, it is bourbon marinated salmon. The ingredient:

Fresh Atlantic Salmon, bourbon, soy sauce, canola oil, brown sugar, chives, garlic powder, and spices. It marinates for over a day and comes out darker. Great on the grill but even pan cooked its good. That and some dark grained rice and fresh long green beens are good.
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Old 06-10-2004, 12:07 AM   #7518
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Here's a pic of the new Aerocooled Exos. Temps have actually risen about 1 degree C with these new fans but no worry. I haven't played any games with my comp yet, just sitting around listening to the quietness. I did find though that when I changed the fans out I had some dust build-up inside the Exos. If you see a slow increase in temps over a long time with your Exos you may need to take it apart and vacuum the bottom of the radiator. Also when my head was in the back of my computer, I would always smell the coolant even though I had no leaks. It is a very strong smell that you will easily recognize. Anyway I had some dried up crusted residue inside my Exos around the reservoir edge that I also wiped up. This came from overflow when filling the reservoir.
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Old 06-10-2004, 01:59 AM   #7519
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Anyone interested in seeing how my X800XT PE performs w/my D875PBZ might want to check out this thread here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29759

Just thought I'd throw that out there for the rest of you D875PBZ users. I won't be able to check this thread tomorrow, so please no questions for now k? Thanks guys
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Old 06-10-2004, 03:27 AM   #7520
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Hi Sandog - Great receipe for the salmon. I would substitute extra virgin olive oil for the canola.

This whole thing about food attests to the stability of the 875's as we have virtually no problems thus alot of OT.

Can't wait till you get your new card so you can fill us in on the details. BTW, the new dets jumped me up a 100 points in 3DMark03. I'm at ~6700 now with no oc anywhere.

Gee that meatloaf mod sounded good - getting hungary again!

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I don't get meatloaf enough. Here's a real surprising tip. Put ketchup on top when you bake it in the oven. It comes out like a paste and taste tangy and sweet.

Also my Salmon is not burgandy, it is bourbon marinated salmon. The ingredient:

Fresh Atlantic Salmon, bourbon, soy sauce, canola oil, brown sugar, chives, garlic powder, and spices. It marinates for over a day and comes out darker. Great on the grill but even pan cooked its good. That and some dark grained rice and fresh long green beens are good.
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Old 06-10-2004, 06:36 AM   #7521
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Yeah I think with the mature BIOS's 4-sticks will be fine. 4 equal sticks are suppose to be the fastest setup also according to Intel.


By the way, not that I am suggesting that you should have looked but I remember posting that article link before post 1000 I believe and then again when somebody was asking about it around post 5K. Good article and only one of a few on that subject still around. There were a half-dozen articles around when it was proven that PAT was disabled with 4-DIMMS installed but that was a long time ago. My problem with is when I had 4-DIMMS was my Sandra scores were the same but PAT was disabled (PO5). Also my system kept crashing but I am almost positive that was having 4 OCZ BH5 modules almost touching one another and an improperly cooled case. Hehe, I remember putting all my stuff in the case and one fan at the back and forgetting about cooling.
I wonder if anyone else here is running-or has run-with all four slots filled. I'd go ahead and just run two slots with 2x512 but I went and spent good money for these BH5 Level II sticks and I'd hate to see them just laying about not earning their keep, but I'd hate it even more if I bought two additional 256 sticks only to have my system become unstable.
It's just standard air cooling (the CPU is currently at 41c).
I've had some performance issues with Adobe Audition 1.5+Ozone 3 (a DirectX audio mastering plug-in) such as slow processing times with Ozone and an occasional blink out of an Audition session back to the desktop and then losing the entire session (save early and often) which then necessitates that I again lay all the voice work down.
I think it's the way Audition handles virtual memory (this is just a theory on my part) and that perhaps an additional 512 MB of RAM might help in this regard.
On the other hand I don't want to make things worse...

My game box is running great with 2x512 sticks of Mushkin Level II and I have almost no issues with it.
Thief: Deadly Shadows just looks incredible and runs very well at 1280x1024+8xAF.
The Hammerite Factory is a joy to walk around in and take in all the art and texture work and the shadows cast by the torch lights catching the stair railings personifies why I spend as much as the wife will allow on hardware.
Oh, the Unreal Warfare engine isn't 100% stable and it resets my desktop icons every time I exit the game but that trek through the Hammerite Factory is freaking memorable.

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Old 06-10-2004, 09:44 AM   #7522
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Anyone interested in seeing how my X800XT PE performs w/my D875PBZ might want to check out this thread here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29759

Just thought I'd throw that out there for the rest of you D875PBZ users. I won't be able to check this thread tomorrow, so please no questions for now k? Thanks guys
Nice dude, hope you enjoy it. My X800 Pro would not run 3DMark2003 either. It would crash to the desktop when it started. I was using 4.5 CATS at the time. As soon as CompUSA gets the XT's in I should have one.
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:32 AM   #7523
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I wonder if anyone else here is running-or has run-with all four slots filled. I'd go ahead and just run two slots with 2x512 but I went and spent good money for these BH5 Level II sticks and I'd hate to see them just laying about not earning their keep, but I'd hate it even more if I bought two additional 256 sticks only to have my system become unstable.
As far I can remember, at best, most people that tried 4 sticks didn't gain much performance (due to the disabled PAT, and the lack of Vdimm adjustability to keep latencies low) and at worst, had issues running the four sticks at all. All those full dimms puts a heavy load on the NB and voltage regulation. I wouldn't recommend it at all on the pre rev 301 boards, but if you have a rev 301 or newer board with the adjustable Vdimm, try it.

-Make sure you make an image of your OS first in case something gets corrupted.

-Start with your timings set manually at a safe speed, and decrease your latencies slowly, while using Memtest86 to check for stability.

-Run that Level II with at leat 2.700 to 2.725V. It needs it, especially with four sticks.

Worst case, it doesn't work well, you can sell that Level II for a pretty penny. It's been discontinued and unavailable since Jan/Feb of this year and even used, it sells real fast due to the high demand for the best DDR ICs ever made.
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:41 AM   #7524
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Nice dude, hope you enjoy it. My X800 Pro would not run 3DMark2003 either. It would crash to the desktop when it started. I was using 4.5 CATS at the time. As soon as CompUSA gets the XT's in I should have one.
There is a fix for it and someone over in that thread pointed me in the right direction. I loaded the fix and 3dmark03 worked OK after that.

Now, however, I have some other sort of problem. I'm curious to see what your impression of it is as well. If you wouldn't mind and if you have time could you take another peek at that thread and let me know what you think of my current issues? I am afraid my system may have got damaged from a storm we had last night but I really don't know what to think..
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Old 06-10-2004, 12:19 PM   #7525
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I wonder if anyone else here is running-or has run-with all four slots filled. [/i]
Hiya TQ,

I tried running 4 sticks a while back (4 x 512m of Corsair PC3200). Had a negative effect on Sandra and AIDA scores -- both went down with 4 sticks versus 2. Now, I've heard that 4 sticks of 256 meg may be better than 2 sticks of 256m or even 2 sticks of 512m, but I haven't tried that myself. Shortly after trying the 4 sticks of Corsair, I bought a pair of 512m BH-5 OCZ PC-3500, and I've been using that ever since.

HTH,
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Old 06-10-2004, 03:18 PM   #7526
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As far I can remember, at best, most people that tried 4 sticks didn't gain much performance (due to the disabled PAT, and the lack of Vdimm adjustability to keep latencies low) and at worst, had issues running the four sticks at all. All those full dimms puts a heavy load on the NB and voltage regulation. I wouldn't recommend it at all on the pre rev 301 boards, but if you have a rev 301 or newer board with the adjustable Vdimm, try it.
Oops...I've already ordered two 2x256 sticks of the new Mushkin Black and I have a 205 series board.
Think it'll be that disastrous? I'm not looking to gain performance per se (as in benchmark scores) but to give my workstation some additional hard memory resources when it comes to processing audio sessions.
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Old 06-10-2004, 03:39 PM   #7527
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Oops...I've already ordered two 2x256 sticks of the new Mushkin Black and I have a 205 series board.
Think it'll be that disastrous? I'm not looking to gain performance per se (as in benchmark scores) but to give my workstation some additional hard memory resources when it comes to processing audio sessions.
Like Ralf said there is not enough juice in the pre-206 boards for 2GB of memory. With your 1GB it might be fine though. Try it and see I guess now.

By the way, prices should fall nicely on the D875PBZLK by the end of the month because Intel is going to intro the 925 chipset the 21st of June so it will be even a better time to buy this great mobo. I will be posting my butt off probably and hope others will join me in deciphering the successor to the D875PBZLK. The plusses are it will have some secret goodies, the minuses are it has memory probs with ECC which noboby uses though. I am 99.999% sure I will not be getting the new mobo (in the first week ). I don't know though, if the reviews are golden and it runs a 3.46GHz 1066FSB EE chip then I might have to at least consider it and theres RAM out there that will do 533MHz.
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Old 06-10-2004, 03:51 PM   #7528
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BillC here is some new bling bling for your case.
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Old 06-10-2004, 03:53 PM   #7529
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Like Ralf said there is not enough juice in the pre-206 boards for 2GB of memory. With your 1GB it might be fine though. Try it and see I guess now.
Honestly, I think it'll be fine. Geez, the board has four slots it should be able to handle four sticks. Besides, the lady I spoke to at Mushkin seemed to think it would be OK after I outlined what it was I wanted to accomplish. Her only caveat was that I not expect things to run at SPD and I told her I already knew that wasn't going to happen.
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BillC here is some new bling bling for your case.
Hiya Sandog,

Bling bling? NOT! That's pure SEX!! Yeah, baby! I'm ordering some right now.

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