Intel D875PBZLK

[TQ]

Originally posted by Sandog
ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/

wOOf...thanks!

We have finally gotten XP to install. The way I did that was to (once again) manually set memory timings to 6-2-3-3.
The install and corruption issues were definately memory related.
I'm not saying the install was successful because only time will tell if it was.
In other words, the install is young. Problems could still crop up. At this point the board is acting exactly like the board it replaced.

[Sandog]

Originally posted by Sabcik
Ok so if I get a adapter pata to sata for my Maxtor you thing then I’ll be able to see Ctrl – I ???

I don't think so, you wont have a serial drive if you just hook a serial to parallel adapter up, just a serial connection.

Edit: Also you need an identical drive to perform RAID 0 or else it will take on the size of the smallest drive you use. I would get another Raptor.

[chile62]

Originally posted by TQ
wOOf...thanks!

We have finally gotten XP to install. The way I did that was to (once again) manually set memory timings to 6-2-3-3.
The install and corruption issues were definately memory related.
I'm not saying the install was successful because only time will tell if it was.
In other words, the install is young. Problems could still crop up. At this point the board is acting exactly like the board it replaced.

I feel for you TQ. I'm still not comfortable with my board. Still some weirdness going on. I've set my bus speed back to 333MHz and my timings are at 6-2-3-2.

What BIOS version did you decide on?

[TQ]

Since it is at this time demonstrating that it's stable I am staying with BIOS 12.
This is my game machine and not mission critical, so I feel comfortable experimenting with it.
I'll stay with BIOS 12 unless things detoriorate. I ran Sandra Maxx and it told me that PAT was disabled, which was to be expected.

[David Rolfe]

As you said earlier TQ, the problems do all seem related to memory timings.

Until Intel can get that sorted out, and assuming that they eventually will; are we really going to notice any reduction in performance between a stable 6-2-3-3 and (say) an ideal 6-2-2-2, do you think?

I haven't 'upgraded' my BIOS from 09 to 12 yet, but plan to do so very shortly. Just wondering whether to wait until ATI release their next driver update for my 9800 Pro, and then do a complete re-install of XP, using the latest Intel chipset utility update as well!

-David-

[Miles]

Well I'm sticking with P05 as I got a couple of cold boot freezes with P12 and PAT was still disabled.

I wondering if when we flash with Intel if all of the old BIOS is completely wiped out and the new BIOS flashed...my reason for stating this is that always in the past I was getting the three beeps with P05 which indicated my how many USB devices I had plugged in. With all BIOS revisions after P07 the beeps went away. This time when I flashed back from P12 to P05 no more beeps. If realdieu were here he'd say:

ERRATA!

[Miles]

Originally posted by David Rolfe
As you said earlier TQ, the problems do all seem related to memory timings.

Until Intel can get that sorted out, and assuming that they eventually will; are we really going to notice any reduction in performance between a stable 6-2-3-3 and (say) an ideal 6-2-2-2, do you think?

I haven't 'upgraded' my BIOS from 09 to 12 yet, but plan to do so very shortly. Just wondering whether to wait until ATI release their next driver update for my 9800 Pro, and then do a complete re-install of XP, using the latest Intel chipset utility update as well!

-David-

Hi David,

I totally agree! I wanted to ask you if you have both the D875PBZ and the D865PERL? If so have you had any of these issues with the D865PERL? TIA!

[skoone1]

Hi guys..

Well, I'm still chugging along on my D865PERL main board. I actually lost the BIOS settings day before yesterday. It's the first time I had it happen since the fiasco with the D875 board. It has not dropped the BIOS since but I'll bet that as it has done it this time I can expect it again. What is up with Intel boards not holding it's BIOS settings?? (I put a new battery in but the original was 3.1 volts - more than adequate).. In case you're wondering, when I say it's dropping the BIOS settings... I can turn on my computer randomly, usually early in the morning before I go to work, or in the evening when I get home.. and I get what might be called a cold boot issue. The computer powers up but does nothing. No monitor, no beep, nothing. At this point, I either power the computer down completely or hit the reset button.. After that it comes alive but all the BIOS settings have reverted back to factory defaults. I then have to go back through and reprogram everything all over again. The D875 was doing this EVERY time I powered it down and brought it back up, but only with P06 and higher BIOS revision. P05 never did this. Very weird indeed. I'm still having a floppy drive issue but I have now determined it is a Windows XP issue. I loaded Linux on a spare partition and the floppy works fine. I have tried a reinstall of XP but it's no good. The D875 had the same exact problem. Intel boards can't handle floppy drives under XP. What a joke! Other than the floppy issue and the one-time BIOS drop, the D865 board remains stable with really no problem to speak of. This is with the latest BIOS flash P08.

Now that I speak somewhat kindly of it, watch the thing lay down and die before the night is out!

Regards,
Steve

[TQ]

Well, I have to say that Mrs. TQ ran Neverwinter Nights for over two hours with no problems and I just started Morrowind with an all new character (Redguard Scout) and ran that for an hour and I've seen zero issues.
God, Morrowind has never run more smoothly nor looked more beautiful than it does with this new system.
I've put well over a two hundred hours on this game and it still amazes me.
Knock on wood, but things look pretty good right now.

[Miles]

Originally posted by skoone1
Hi guys..

Well, I'm still chugging along on my D865PERL main board. I actually lost the BIOS settings day before yesterday. It's the first time I had it happen since the fiasco with the D875 board. It has not dropped the BIOS since but I'll bet that as it has done it this time I can expect it again. What is up with Intel boards not holding it's BIOS settings?? (I put a new battery in but the original was 3.1 volts - more than adequate).. In case you're wondering, when I say it's dropping the BIOS settings... I can turn on my computer randomly, usually early in the morning before I go to work, or in the evening when I get home.. and I get what might be called a cold boot issue. The computer powers up but does nothing. No monitor, no beep, nothing. At this point, I either power the computer down completely or hit the reset button.. After that it comes alive but all the BIOS settings have reverted back to factory defaults. I then have to go back through and reprogram everything all over again. The D875 was doing this EVERY time I powered it down and brought it back up, but only with P06 and higher BIOS revision. P05 never did this. Very weird indeed. I'm still having a floppy drive issue but I have now determined it is a Windows XP issue. I loaded Linux on a spare partition and the floppy works fine. I have tried a reinstall of XP but it's no good. The D875 had the same exact problem. Intel boards can't handle floppy drives under XP. What a joke! Other than the floppy issue and the one-time BIOS drop, the D865 board remains stable with really no problem to speak of. This is with the latest BIOS flash P08.

Now that I speak somewhat kindly of it, watch the thing lay down and die before the night is out!

Regards,
Steve

Thanks for the info Steve! When I had the cold boot issues I never had a problem with dropping any BIOS information

[Sandog]

Originally posted by skoone1
Hi guys..

Well, I'm still chugging along on my D865PERL main board. I actually lost the BIOS settings day before yesterday. It's the first time I had it happen since the fiasco with the D875 board. It has not dropped the BIOS since but I'll bet that as it has done it this time I can expect it again. What is up with Intel boards not holding it's BIOS settings?? (I put a new battery in but the original was 3.1 volts - more than adequate).. In case you're wondering, when I say it's dropping the BIOS settings... I can turn on my computer randomly, usually early in the morning before I go to work, or in the evening when I get home.. and I get what might be called a cold boot issue. The computer powers up but does nothing. No monitor, no beep, nothing. At this point, I either power the computer down completely or hit the reset button.. After that it comes alive but all the BIOS settings have reverted back to factory defaults. I then have to go back through and reprogram everything all over again. The D875 was doing this EVERY time I powered it down and brought it back up, but only with P06 and higher BIOS revision. P05 never did this. Very weird indeed. I'm still having a floppy drive issue but I have now determined it is a Windows XP issue. I loaded Linux on a spare partition and the floppy works fine. I have tried a reinstall of XP but it's no good. The D875 had the same exact problem. Intel boards can't handle floppy drives under XP. What a joke! Other than the floppy issue and the one-time BIOS drop, the D865 board remains stable with really no problem to speak of. This is with the latest BIOS flash P08.

Now that I speak somewhat kindly of it, watch the thing lay down and die before the night is out!

Regards,
Steve

Almost everybody has experienced the cold boot problem but I have never lost BIOS settings, only had the memory settings defaulted to SPD. It's memory problems that cause the cold boot freeze I believe. Are you using the same memory modules you used in the 875? I would look there. Maybe they are set too low or you have a bad module. Bad memory will not cause you to loose BIOS settings but may cause you to have cold boot problems. Also in BIOS there is a "save custom bios" option in the exit menu. Save your bios settings, that way all you have to do is click "load custom bios settings" next time instead of reconfiguring all your bios settings over again. Good luck.

Edit: Some of the BIOS revisions also lessen or eliminate the cold boot issue. You might want to try PO5, or PO12 instead.

[Miles]

Originally posted by Sandog
Almost everybody has experienced the cold boot problem but I have never lost BIOS settings, only had the memory settings defaulted to SPD. It's memory problems that cause the cold boot freeze I believe. Are you using the same memory modules you used in the 875? I would look there. Maybe they are set too low or you have a bad module. Bad memory will not cause you to loose BIOS settings but may cause you to have cold boot problems. Also in BIOS there is a "save custom bios" option in the exit menu. Save your bios settings, that way all you have to do is click "load custom bios settings" next time instead of reconfiguring all your bios settings over again. Good luck.

Edit: Some of the BIOS revisions also lessen or eliminate the cold boot issue. You might want to try PO5, or PO12 instead.

Excellent advice, with the possible exception of the BIOS recommendations, he's using the D865PERL.:eek: :eek:

[bjbgraphics]

Originally posted by Sandog
Almost everybody has experienced the cold boot problem but I have never lost BIOS settings, only had the memory settings defaulted to SPD. It's memory problems that cause the cold boot freeze I believe. Are you using the same memory modules you used in the 875? I would look there. Maybe they are set too low or you have a bad module. Bad memory will not cause you to loose BIOS settings but may cause you to have cold boot problems. Also in BIOS there is a "save custom bios" option in the exit menu. Save your bios settings, that way all you have to do is click "load custom bios settings" next time instead of reconfiguring all your bios settings over again. Good luck.

Edit: Some of the BIOS revisions also lessen or eliminate the cold boot issue. You might want to try PO5, or PO12 instead.

I had my first cold boot hang with the P12 BIOS yesterday actually. I had just installed Nvidia's new 45.23 drivers and shut down the computer rather than the typical restart. After pressing the power button, power light went on, HD light just stayed solid, and all fans turned on... but no monitor. Pressed reset and it just restarted like usual, back into Windows XP.

I had this happen twice with the P09 BIOS as well. I have also experienced, with the P09 BIOS, a Cold Boot hang followed by the aforementioned BIOS setting resets.

BJB

[chile62]

Originally posted by skoone1
Hi guys..

Well, I'm still chugging along on my D865PERL main board. I actually lost the BIOS settings day before yesterday. It's the first time I had it happen since the fiasco with the D875 board. It has not dropped the BIOS since but I'll bet that as it has done it this time I can expect it again. What is up with Intel boards not holding it's BIOS settings?? (I put a new battery in but the original was 3.1 volts - more than adequate).. In case you're wondering, when I say it's dropping the BIOS settings... I can turn on my computer randomly, usually early in the morning before I go to work, or in the evening when I get home.. and I get what might be called a cold boot issue. The computer powers up but does nothing. No monitor, no beep, nothing. At this point, I either power the computer down completely or hit the reset button.. After that it comes alive but all the BIOS settings have reverted back to factory defaults. I then have to go back through and reprogram everything all over again. The D875 was doing this EVERY time I powered it down and brought it back up, but only with P06 and higher BIOS revision. P05 never did this. Very weird indeed.

Regards,
Steve

Hmm...sounds very familiar. I had almost the exact same Cold boot trouble with the board I RMA'd. (Only when the machine was cold.) Except instead of floppy trouble the onboard LAN would not work.

[TMX1]

i got this Intel 875PBZ REV (2)
Problems in order!

#1 when i tried to acess Hardware Monitor in the BIOS the whole PC would freeze.. (happened at random but now it stopped doint that)

#2 first time i went to install winXP it rebooted itself during the installation process with a BSOD Bad_Pool_Caller (which happened a few times)

#3 Audigy2 Platinum installation is weird.. i can install the original drivers off the CD, but when i reboot the OS and then the Creative Registration thing loads up, that also causes the PC to hang!

#4 Audigy2 Driver update is not possible to install! it crashes the system each and every time i try to install using its installer!
this has NEVER happened to me even on my VIA boards

i think this board is a piece of trash how dare intel sell such crap!

i have tried bioses from 05 to 12 .. same thing

has anyone sucessfully talked to the intel TECH guys about these stupid issues?

my box
Antec 380w psu
intel875pbz
2x512 Kingston Valueram 3-3-3-8CL-1T
2X80GB Seagate SATA hdd
Audigy2 Platinum