Intel D975XBX (Bad Axe)

[Sandog]

I agree. This board (pics above) is a very good sign of what coming. Also have to hand it to Intel for all the hard work and money they sink into making their board products better. They may loose money on making their enthusiast board but I admire them for attempting to compete with the likes of DFI, etc. If you put the D975XBX board pic beside a D850MV2 mobo pic you will see the difference Intel has made. You can look closely at the Intel board and see every component is of the highest quality. I am expecting the Presler to get good reviews and then this board will take off from there, especially if it runs Conroe later on.

[Intel_User]

Its absolutely ridiculous that people are disappointed with Yonah. I think people are missing the real point here. Yonah, is able to equal performance with X2 per clock, while improving tremendously on the weak spots of the Pentium M(I mean really weak), and that's really significant. Pentium M's weakness must be eliminated and Yonah does a good job eliminating most of the weaknesses.

(BTW, Anandtech mentions they are using a desktop board for Yonah, it means its the 945GT, which is 945 desktop chipset except it can run Yonah, 945GT is NO way more optimized than 945 in power consumption, just FYI for AMD fanboys who would claim Yonah's system is using mobile chipset)


If any of you guys seen the linked numbers for Conroe, its not slightly better than Yonah, its SIGNIFICANTLY better.


Even more good news for Intel is Yonah is coming Jan 6th or something, something REALLY early January.

[Sandog]

I think we can look forward to desktop chips from Intel that are going to run smoother, faster, and have more features all while being cooled more silently. Intel will have to keep the same humongous heatsink because it covers such a wide area over the socket T but the CPU fan could run as low as 1500rpm which is very quiet. The CPU fan still doubles as a chipset and VR cooler also. I have a Sanyo Denki 775 HSF from Intel that is very quiet I have been holding on to. Anyway, the Intel NB chip appears to need a lot of cooling yet and of course ATI and NVidia are using tremendous amounts of power nowadays so they will still be noisy.

[Intel_User]

Since more enthusiasts use AMD than Intel, there is one thing I noticed. More of the AMD fans are dummer than Intel fans. At least Intel fans can provide the proof like the links, but then the AMD ones just say you are a fanboy and provide no proof!!

About stability regarding Intel vs. AMD. Umm, some of you know I read reviews often, and very often(nearly every time), Intel's engineering sample mobo and CPUs are stable as heck, while AMDs have problems in the beginning.

To AMD fans(since I am ****** off because some stupid AMD fan made no sense and said I was a fanboy and provided no proof why ): The fanboys are as unreliable as the CPUs

My definition:
Fan: People who like to defend with reasonable proof without swearing and making no sense
Fanboy: little 5-year old like people whos irrational and has no idea of what they are talking about and calls everyone else fanboys, losers, etc.

I think most people I see here apply to the first one gladly.

Funny how a thread dedicated to a motherboard has half of a section dedicated to future CPUs and what will happen in the future

[TQ]

Funny you should post this...I once worked with a guy that moved out to L.A. to become an actor/model.
He was a nice enough fellow but couldn't find the "anykey" on a PC if you paid him.
He wound up in an "AMD Me" magazine ad....

[Sandog]

Well it is easy to understand, if you were a young impetuous teen with limited funds would you go with a stuffy old reliable conservative expensive board from Intel or a cheaper faster more glitzy board from NVidia that all the other noobs endorse. Intel still holds sway with a lot of big business and adults, AMD has most of the young consumer business. It is changing both ways though, AMD is penetrating the business segment pretty quickly and Intel is trying to coerce the young enthusiast crowd.

By the way, I enjoy learning more about Intel and it is easy to do just by going to their website. Intel has many divisions that all seem to do very well which is proof how well and smart this company is. You think they are doing well in Yonah and Conroe? Well they are always innovating and leading themselves and the rest of the world into new tech. and services. This is why their profits keep soaring. Take a look at this website,
http://www.intel.com/capital/index.h...t_intelcapital&
This is a whole new ballgame, Intel goes in and straightens out a company with guidance, cash, technology which then becomes much more valuable (venture capitalist). This can be very profitable. Of course Intel also has networking and computer infrastructure specialists who can come over and define you needs and then provide all the equipment and services necessary to meet your needs. If I had my own large company, I would love to be able to call Intel reps on over and set up my computer infrastructure. If I had stockholders and customers relying on me these are the only guys I would trust and feel good using. Intel provides stable and fast equipment that will last for years and years.

[TQ]

What the kids fail to understand is that Intel pioneered the x86 processor and AMD just got along for the ride.
Furthermore, in the big picture, Intel sees their real competition as IBM, not AMD.
Oh, of course they won't roll over and let AMD stay ahead technologically or market-wise- corporate pride and all that - but AMD isn't the focus.

I'm really getting excited about the 975...

[Sandog]

Have you ever noticed the ugly and gimmicky hardware out there such as the stuff Thermaltake produces? There is a giant noob market out there full of young guns with lots of cash. When I was a teen I didn't have much cash at all. Todays teens appear rich to me. Anyway, the enthusiast market is not one to pass up. Todays kids will grow up to make business decisions and they will remember AMD. They will also tell their kids that they used AMD when they were kids. AMD has increased it technology developement through sales of cheaper faster processors for the past few years and now has added server cores to its product list. Intel needs to get into the enthusiast market or else there processor division could go the way of Matrox. Matrox had a high quality video card but but got knocked out by faster cheaper products from ATI and NVidia. A large majority of desktop buyers want speed over quality. Luckily Intel has Dell in their pocket or else a lot more kids would be getting AMD from their parents. Intel is adaptive and very innovative though and they will adjust. I believe they will even take the performance crown away from AMD next year.

[ronbo 613]

I hope AMD and Intel engineers work 24-7 trying to outdo each other because that just means better products for consumers.

[AHLnut]

Originally Posted by ronbo 613

I hope AMD and Intel engineers work 24-7 trying to outdo each other because that just means better products for consumers.

Competition for our business usually means a better value for our dollar.

[Belisarius]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Well it is easy to understand, if you were a young impetuous teen with limited funds would you go with a stuffy old reliable conservative expensive board from Intel or a cheaper faster more glitzy board from NVidia that all the other noobs endorse.

Ouch, that's a big sledge (ridicule) there Sandog , there are gonna be a few AMD boys around these forums unhappy with that comment.

Originally Posted by Sandog

Have you ever noticed the ugly and gimmicky hardware out there such as the stuff Thermaltake produces? There is a giant noob market out there full of young guns with lots of cash

Yeah Thermaltake may do themselves damage, certainly with the enthusiasts (who in reality are the guys who sing certain products praises on these types of forums, and can certainly influence a products uptake for sure) and actually ultimately ruin their reputation. In my opinion, at least they are trying to make cases look a little bit more interesting, compared to the boring old plain beige/black/silver, without overstepping the line too far towards looking too tacky. I really like my Tsunami case, I picked it because it was light, had good airflow, and was easy to remove HDD cage, screwless add-on card attachments etc. It is a little flimsy being all aluminium, but thats the price you pay for being light I guess, good for LANing.

Originally Posted by TQ

I'm really getting excited about the 975...

Don't tell me TQ, you have finally been swayed by Intel's new LGA775 platform hardware?

Originally Posted by ronbo 613

I hope AMD and Intel engineers work 24-7 trying to outdo each other because that just means better products for consumers.

I hope AMD engineers don't work too hard, cause I want bragging rights for a while after what I have endured the past 2 years , Intel will definitely have the lead once more next year with that new architecture, no doubt about it.

[TQ]

Originally Posted by Belisarius

Don't tell me TQ, you have finally been swayed by Intel's new LGA775 platform hardware?

Yes, and for all the reasons I stated it would take me to become so. The primary one being that Intel's dual cores will finally offer the performance delta needed to get me to invest in a near complete system rebuild.
The fact that it's happening on a slightly accelerated time line (I always thought summer rather than late winter/early spring) is just gravy.
And even though the 975 and Presler will be on the market before the cusp of Winter/Spring I will still wait until then for the hardware to achieve more refinement.
I can get excited about it, but I won't purchase prematurely like I did with the 875.
Unless, of course, I have a scenario like I did with two systems going down in a close timeline to each other, which is what happened when we built our early 875-based boxes.

Maybe by that time nVidia will release a 7800GTX card with the specs of the 512 MB version, only with 256 MB and at a hundred bucks less.

[bingo13]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Also in that paragraph take note at the end that the 975X chipset supports a whopping 8GB of RAM and ECC at that. [/size]

Only if you are using XP64 or Server64, otherwise you have the same limitation to 3GB addressable with XP32.

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by Belisarius

Ouch, that's a big sledge (ridicule) there Sandog , there are gonna be a few AMD boys around these forums unhappy with that comment.

We were talking about teens from what Intel_user stated besides I stand by it.

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by Belisarius

Don't tell me TQ, you have finally been swayed by Intel's new LGA775 platform hardware?

It takes a while for us old guys to get excited.