Intel D975XBX (Bad Axe)

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

It's a never ending cycle, upgrade after upgrade after upgrade.

I would wait off until the C1 stepping.

Is that the second stepping of the D955EE core?

I understand all about upgrading hehe. I just would like to have a little more time between upgrades, especially when it involves EE chips which are hard to sell. I really want the 955EE but I also know I will definitely want the Conroe EE. If Intel had gotten it right I would be using a D955EE right now and not worry about the Conroe for another 6mos minimum.

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by AHLnut

The new board has the low volume mic issue also?

Sure does, even with a different audio chip that has +0, +10, +20, +30, +40db microphone boost capability and also several versions later of Intel Audio Studio. The MIC input is totally useless. No conversing over VOIP, messenger software, or commmunication with team mates in online games.

[Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Sandog

This is water cooled don't forget!!!

The chip is running at 75C after water cooling?? That is insane. Intel should incorporate phase change cooling if it is running that hot.

Those temps just turned me off 100%. Whats it run with a retail cooling solution, 100C, enough to boil water? I have no need, want or desire to have a toaster. I think those temps really present a hazard.

Shame on Intel.

[AHLnut]

Originally Posted by Zeppelin

The chip is running at 75C after water cooling?? That is insane. Intel should incorporate phase change cooling if it is running that hot.

Those temps just turned me off 100%. Whats it run with a retail cooling solution, 100C, enough to boil water? I have no need, want or desire to have a toaster. I think those temps really present a hazard.

Shame on Intel.

That temp Sandog has it o/ced to 4.2GHZ at full load!!! I'm sure at default speed the temps would be much lower, but still enough to replace the heater in your room

[Matt_G]

Sandog, maybe you should post the temps at stock speed before poor ol Zep has himself an embolism.

[GFORCE100]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Is that the second stepping of the D955EE core?

I understand all about upgrading hehe. I just would like to have a little more time between upgrades, especially when it involves EE chips which are hard to sell. I really want the 955EE but I also know I will definitely want the Conroe EE. If Intel had gotten it right I would be using a D955EE right now and not worry about the Conroe for another 6mos minimum.

Yes C1 is the next one from the current B1.

If Intel can keep a potential 965 EE (i.e. 3.73GHz) version within the 05B thermal spec (i.e. 130W) then I believe there's a fair chance to welcome this model around the April timeframe, with the new stepping of course. It also depends on what AMD's doing but I would point my finger (yes I know it's rude) at a Pentium D 960 and a Pentium Extreme Edition 965 to follow on to what's already available.

[wicked_abx]

Ya the mic volume is low. However, after playing with some settings, my teammates in CS:S can hear me. Still not as good as it should be though.

[Sandog]

Well he must be turning his volume way up to hear you.

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by Zeppelin

The chip is running at 75C after water cooling?? That is insane. Intel should incorporate phase change cooling if it is running that hot.

Those temps just turned me off 100%. Whats it run with a retail cooling solution, 100C, enough to boil water? I have no need, want or desire to have a toaster. I think those temps really present a hazard.

Shame on Intel.

There is nothing I can do about that now except wait for Conroe. Don't forget the 840EE is two full blown 3.2GHz Prescotts w/1MB cache each side by side and then OC'd to 4.2GHz. At default 3.2GHz, the 840EE runs in the 50'sC and goes into low 60'sC when under load. Besides the heat, this processor runs excellent. Did I mention it runs well at 4.2GHz then drops to 2.8GHz at idle? That is freakin' neat. Also I ran 3DMark05 yesterday and scored over 8600 which is more than my buds 4000+ gets clocked higher than an FX-57.

Like I keep saying, I would love to get the 955EE with EIST but not if I only get to keep it for 3-4mos. I will probably just keep the 840EE and let it be my last Prescott.

[pointreyes]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Like I keep saying, I would love to get the 955EE with EIST but not if I only get to keep it for 3-4mos. I will probably just keep the 840EE and let it be my last Prescott.

That's how I'm startin' to feel with my 830. June is not that far off. Plus I might have solved my problem with BOB. Not fully sure yet but it might be due to using PCIe based chipsets! It appears to work on my dual Xeon which fortunately has a Gigabyte 6600GT 8x AGP card in it. The USB chip being used in the Xeon: 82801, the USB chip used in the D955 board: 82801. So here I follow the recommendations for high-quality hardware only to find out it's no good. Instead of spending my money on the 9xx series of procs I will probably be spending my money on this highly expensive piece of equipment: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814144209

It works with firewire which means I get to use one more piece of the D955 mobo and it does one thing that no other analog capture device can do - improve VHS quality during the capture! Does anyone know how much a person can charge for bringing a person's wedding video on VHS back from the grave to DVD format? That could help me out in seeing if my ROI on this equipment is good or not.

[Sandog]

Intel_user, what is your opinion on these SPEC scores for Core Duo>

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29438

[Sandog]

Originally Posted by pointreyes

That's how I'm startin' to feel with my 830. June is not that far off. Plus I might have solved my problem with BOB. Not fully sure yet but it might be due to using PCIe based chipsets! It appears to work on my dual Xeon which fortunately has a Gigabyte 6600GT 8x AGP card in it. The USB chip being used in the Xeon: 82801, the USB chip used in the D955 board: 82801. So here I follow the recommendations for high-quality hardware only to find out it's no good. Instead of spending my money on the 9xx series of procs I will probably be spending my money on this highly expensive piece of equipment: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814144209

It works with firewire which means I get to use one more piece of the D955 mobo and it does one thing that no other analog capture device can do - improve VHS quality during the capture! Does anyone know how much a person can charge for bringing a person's wedding video on VHS back from the grave to DVD format? That could help me out in seeing if my ROI on this equipment is good or not.

Hey Pointy,

There will be new chipset boards out also which should contain the latest features and be more compatible with the lower wattage, higher FSB Conroes. I think these will be designated 965 chipsets and there should be some boards available without onboard graphics. These will not be the 'Enthusiast' board types like I am interested in so they will not have 2x16 PCIe or Dolby Digital capability but as I am not using those two technologies right now all I care about is which CPU's the boards can handle. Conroe EE maybe?

[Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Sandog

There is nothing I can do about that now except wait for Conroe. Don't forget the 840EE is two full blown 3.2GHz Prescotts w/1MB cache each side by side and then OC'd to 4.2GHz. At default 3.2GHz, the 840EE runs in the 50'sC and goes into low 60'sC when under load. Besides the heat, this processor runs excellent. Did I mention it runs well at 4.2GHz then drops to 2.8GHz at idle? That is freakin' neat. Also I ran 3DMark05 yesterday and scored over 8600 which is more than my buds 4000+ gets clocked higher than an FX-57.

Like I keep saying, I would love to get the 955EE with EIST but not if I only get to keep it for 3-4mos. I will probably just keep the 840EE and let it be my last Prescott.

Us desert rats keep a close eye on things that generate heat. Makes no sense to pay for something to heat up the house and then run the AC to cool off the heat generator. If I had your rig, I would have to vent the WC unit outside!

The gains seem to be miniscule compared to the overhead. In gaming, I wonder if you can tell any difference between what you have now and the cooler running and quiet 3.4EE you had the PBZ. The biggest difference I can see is that you now have a better VC.

You are right, it might make better sense to wait for something that will actually make a difference. Wonder when the next revison of the MB will come out with a better audio? Will Intel do the right thing and offer to swap current boards for the one that has fixed Audio? Or will they just strut around with their noses in the air yelling "Sucker"?

How can Intel expect to appeal to an OC and game crowd without good audio?

[pointreyes]

Originally Posted by Sandog

Hey Pointy,

There will be new chipset boards out also which should contain the latest features and be more compatible with the lower wattage, higher FSB Conroes. I think these will be designated 965 chipsets and there should be some boards available without onboard graphics. These will not be the 'Enthusiast' board types like I am interested in so they will not have 2x16 PCIe or Dolby Digital capability but as I am not using those two technologies right now all I care about is which CPU's the boards can handle. Conroe EE maybe?

That sounds like a viable way to go. Yeah, I think I'm done with Prescotts. I mean seriously why waste $400+ on a heatwave proc when in June the cooler more efficient Conroe will be out. We are only talking 5 to 6 months now. I could be spending that time finally understanding this NLE software I have so that I can really test the Conroe really hard. Interestingly, my NLE software has the dolby digital license for output creation. On board firewire would be nice though. I always like it when a board has that on it.

[Sandog]

This is pretty neat. By the way my processor runs fine in games at 4.2GHz. Haven't got it to pass 3DMark06 yet at 4.2GHz but it did 05 several times.