Intel DP45SG (Skyburg)

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Intel DP45SG iP45 LGA775 ATX DDR3 motherboard
Our Price: $162.95List Price: $191.99 You Save: $29.04

Allstarshop.com - Intel DP45SG iP45 LGA775 ATX DDR3 motherboard

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Originally Posted by Sandog

Yeah, it also has 12 USB 2.0 ports available and even has a serial com header for those who wish to program serial devices like myself.

Actually DDR3 is falling fast. Been watching prices for a long time. My fav SuperTalent is some of the best value DDR to buy. I've seen 2x1GB sticks for under $200 and good 2x2GB pairs are also under $400 and dropping.

This board is perfect IMO, I am amazed Intel brought out another EE board based on the P45 and I wasn't even expecting it. It supports almost every CPU out now and is OC ready. I am stoked about it. It supports 1333 FSB but it will be equal if not better at OCing like the P35 which will go above 1600 easily and will have better OC features/options because its and EE board. I want the P45 because its less of a power hog and shouldn't get as hot as the X38/48 (chipset).

By the way, the price is looking to be around $165, whoot!

No IDE. I have two amazing drives with IDE connection (old amazing CD Plextor and one unbelievable NEC 3500A).
The speed, with which the Intel try to vanish all legacy support interfaces ARE very irritating. My two IDE drives are amazing piece of hardware, and I'm very reluctant to "delete" these drives in our times. Today, to find one good CD or DVD writer is impossible.

The DDR3 is very expensive, without too much to gain.
The ordinary DDR2 RAM is about 20E here for 1 Gb. Never will go to the DDR3 simply because of the Intel policies of "one and only" solutions.

[S.SubZero]

How often do you burn stuff? SATA DVD writers are like $35.

This board would have been a sure thing except for the DDR3. I have parts for a new rig coming today, and among it is 8GB of DDR2 Mushkin. It cost me a whopping $178. Even 4GB of DDR3 is hard to get at that price.

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"...SATA DVD writers are like $35"
The quality of today drives (DVD or CD) are awful-they are cheap and unreliable. If you open one NEC 7200 (Made in China) you will see it with your own eyes. Nothing in common with the old Plextor (Made in Japan) or NEC (Made in Malaysia). My Plextor drive (CD) is from 1998 and in perfect condition. This drive write CD with unbelievable quality.

"...How often do you burn stuff?"
->Very often. Huge movie collection.

This Intel board sure is good- the quality of the Intel boards is high ( they are produced by Foxconn, by the way- not by Intel). But the Intel policies on many subjects is unacceptable to the consumer.

[S.SubZero]

I never had good luck with the Plextor I owned back in that time. I think I ended up throwing it away or giving it to someone who never planned to burn anything or boot from it (since that never seemed to work).

My desktop has a Lite On SATA drive now and it doesn't seem to have any problems.

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The old Plextor's drives remains the gold standards for CD or DVD drive. If they does not work for you,probably you have had no luck.
But the Plextor is not the issue. The mentality of the Intel's boys is this, that frightened me most.

Look at this:

*on all new microATX boards they put only one conventional PCI slot. Why? Because they practice unfair competition. Why you use these slots most? for the good sound card or TV card. How many really good sound cards with PCI Express* x1 bus you know? 2-3. With the classical PCI? all the rest. We talk here about good sound cards - M-Audio, Terratec... not the Creative-SoundBlaster crap. If you lose the PCI slot, you will be forced to use the Intel sound onboard solutions... or do not buy the Intel mobo. It is fair? No, it isn't.
*The same thing is with the IDE interfaces (PATA). The new DG45ID have no such interface. How you will transfer the data from your old 320gb ATA HDD?
With money-buying controllers or external enclosures.

The conclusion are yours... .

[bansheex]

I won't comment on the Plextor fanboyism, but your further assertion that Intel is conspiring to force your to use their onboard sound is just out in left field. Ribbon cables ****ing sucked, get over it. Floppy drives ****ing sucked and are utterly useless with the advent of USB drives. Custom serial connections for every device (mouse, keyboard and printer) was ****ing stupid and is being replaced by a universal standard called USB, which can be used for a bajillion other things. PCI/AGP being replaced by one standard called PCI-e is going to reduce IRQ conflicts and solve imminent future bandwidth limitations of PCI. Onboard sound is leaps and bounds better today and a lot of people are now not having to spend $50 on a shitty Creative card. It isn't just Intel, it's all board makers. Intel doesn't make audio controllers, they're made by Realtek, SigmaTel, or ADI. Sound will eventually go the way of ethernet cards and be snuffed out by equally good onboard solutions.

By the way, Intel offers another ATX P45 solution that has legacy connections. I think any support for these connections at this point is about three years of generosity too much. Get adapters, but new stuff, or stick with old boards. This crap is ancient and the industry is moving on.

[S.SubZero]

Micro-ATX boards are marketed at the budget sector.. I know some people immediately and only think of "OMG HOME THEATRE BOX" but the vast majority of these boards are made for the budget buyer crowd that just needs a basic machine for web browsing or other light tasks. They don't need all kinds of expandability. Besides, look at any Via mini-ITX board.. Don't see a whole bunch of PCI slots on those, do ya?

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Bought a Velociraptor today plus a 3.5" to 5" drive bay adapter for my case as it doesn't come with one. I will let you know how it goes with the drive. I am getting an ATI HD 4850 next and then I will be getting the DP45SG board, 2x2GB sticks of DDR3, and I will also be getting the Q9650 when it comes out cuz I know it will be an R0 stepping.

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Formatting the new Raptor, all looks good. I'm still waiting for the DP45SG board.

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Got a new video card, still waiting on this board but it is getting close to distribution. Dozen of places are showing adds. This board and a processor is all I am waiting on. Soon the Q9650 will get introduced and I may get it or the reduced price Q9550. I already have memory picked out but need the board first.

Intel Extreme DP45SG Desktop Board - Intel P45 Express - Socket T - 1333MHz, 1066MHz, 800MHz FSB - 16GB - DDR3 SDRAM - DDR3-1333/PC3-10600, DDR3-1066/PC3-8500, DDR3-800/PC3-6400 - CrossFire - ATX - BOXDP45SG - Buy.com

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Called Dell yesterday which has this board posted for around $173.00. Sales said they expect to receive the board in about 10 days. I believe Intel is waiting on A3 silicon from a story I read a while back. This might be what this chipset needs as the current P45/DDR3 boards out don't seem to be doing to well. Asus has about a dozen P45/DDR2 boards but only one P45/DDR3 board and the reviews on it say it is too green yet. When the initial BIOS file appears on Intel webpage, that is a good indication the board is available.

[ATINUT]

What's odd is that Buy.com, would sell this board for $160.99, when Extreme Series boards from Intel sell for $250.00 or more.

I'm downloading and putting in to storage each version of the sounddriver for my board, that has the Intel Audio Studio, from what I've seen, the IAS application is better than the IDT app. Why Intel decided to pretty much quit IAS is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by ATINUT

What's odd is that Buy.com, would sell this board for $160.99, when Extreme Series boards from Intel sell for $250.00 or more.

I'm downloading and putting in to storage each version of the sounddriver for my board, that has the Intel Audio Studio, from what I've seen, the IAS application is better than the IDT app. Why Intel decided to pretty much quit IAS is beyond me.

The going price is suppose to be around $160-170. The DP45SG board is cheaper mainly because PCI-e 2x16 is not implemented. It doesn't have the heavy duty MCH heat sink like the X48 does nor all the CPU regulator heat sinks even though it can handle 5A power to CPU's which covers about all the newest CPU's. Also the chipset costs less because it is produced on a smaller die.

IAS with Sonic Focus has been slowly disappearing for a while. I didn't think it was ever coming to Vista but it did eventually for the BA2. I don't think Intel will be using it any longer for future chipsets (X38/48, P35/45.) Sonic Focus who built the app. for Intel did their latest design (called SoundMax) for Analog Devices audio chip which Intel doesn't use (AMD boards always seem to use AD chips. I think SoundMax only works with Vista BTW. Also Sonic Focus was bought out not long ago. It's a shame because MP3's sound awesome with SF enabled but I listened to Dolby also and it sounds pretty darn sweet.

I believe that the DP45SG has a better audio solution than the X48.