Operating System / Software Installation Guide - Page 3

PaleRider · 01-25-2003, 02:24 AM

BRAVO!!!

Thanks Mr Steveo
You can certainly earn a living as a writer--(you're better than most attorneys

)
Thanks again

Mr Steveo · 01-25-2003, 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by PaleRider
BRAVO!!!
Thanks Mr Steveo
You can certainly earn a living as a writer--(you're better than most attorneys )
Thanks again

Thx,

I didnt know attorneys and Hemingway were in the same category

But I'll keep that in mind if I ever retire to a desert island filled with chiropractors.

"For a long time now I have tried simply to write the best I can. Sometimes I have good luck and write better than I can. -- Dealer contribution does not affect consumer cost."
- Hemingway and Associates. P.A

PaleRider · 01-25-2003, 04:02 AM

He He

Good one Mr Steveo

JoeBar · 01-25-2003, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by YoBoGo
Question about the BIOS, especially on the P4PE. What is the best BIOS for this board, is the 1003 good? Also, if not and I need to change for whatever reason when my board gets here, is BIOS flash the very, very last thing I do?

Thanks!

Till now in my opinion there isn't any "best bios" for P4PE. I've used 1001, all 1002 betas and now i'm with 1003.006. I haven't experienced any probs till now with any of them and didn't see any differences in performance or stability. The only thing changed form 1001 and 1002 is the sdram idle timer which is set now at 64 (1001 and 1002 where at 0 and 16 clocks).
The rule "if it ain't broken don't fix it" applies here. Whenever i get a new mb i do the first setup with it's shipped bios to test stability, performance and oc. Then i play with bios. However when i have devided on one, i prefer flashing it before setting up everything else.

shootcraps · 01-25-2003, 07:39 AM

Nice work Mr Steveo.

I usually install Directx, video and sound drivers between motherboard drivers and add-on pci card drivers. My reasoning was these are more important than anything else and should be given priority. Any thoughts?

Mr Steveo · 01-25-2003, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shootcraps
Nice work Mr Steveo.

I usually install Directx, video and sound drivers between motherboard drivers and add-on pci card drivers. My reasoning was these are more important than anything else and should be given priority. Any thoughts?

Mornin,

So youree saying you do chipset, DX9, vid,sound, PCI? If that works with your system then by all means stick with what you prefer. AS Im sure you know theres certain orders that are just plain bad always. But yours wouldnt seem to be one of those.

My thoughts are along the same lines as your but to a different end. Because video and sound are so important leave them until everything else is properly installed. Plus in the past I have seen some LAN, and periperal add on cards that can "undo" some of the delicate power management abilities that the video card drivers install. In those cases, installing video after all but sound card solved such problems.

At the same time...

As Im sitting here going through scenarios in my head, it seems there would be one place where I can see your method working better. And that would be in a siuation where one of the PCI cards is a TV tuner card. Clearly in this instance youd want the video drivers installed before a TV tuner PCI card.

So maybe an improvement to the Guide would be to distinguish categories of PCI cards?

Hmmmm.....
Thanks for the thought provoking question, it looks like Ive got a revision to go make this afternoon

Nikademus · 01-25-2003, 08:42 AM

A guide to installing an OS cannot be complete without telling how to install a real OS..
Please tell us how to install linux or fbsd.

Mr Steveo · 01-25-2003, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Nikademus
A guide to installing an OS cannot be complete without telling how to install a real OS..
Please tell us how to install linux or fbsd.

A Guide to Linux and FreeBSD? Nonsense!

Thats like going on a camping trip and taking a cooler full of sandwiches

The whole idea and fun of Linux is the freedom and flying by the seat of your pants. (As Im sure you agree)

We dont need no stinkin Linux Guide, thats for wussies LOL

Nikademus · 01-25-2003, 09:03 AM

Hey, I know how to install them.
But many people are still hesitating, so a guide could be good. I also know that it's easier to install many linux distributions than to install windows, as long as you don't require dual boot.

Mr Steveo · 01-25-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nikademus
Hey, I know how to install them.
But many people are still hesitating, so a guide could be good.

Ooops...I htought you were being sarcastic

My bad.

Since you seem enthusiastic about it, I'd say talk to one of the Forum Moderators and see what they think. I dont mind if you want to add a Linux Guide to this thread, but its best to see what they think first.

Nikademus · 01-25-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Ooops...I thought you were being sarcastic

Well, I was a little bit, but I still think a guide could be great.

YoBoGo · 01-25-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoeBar
Till now in my opinion there isn't any "best bios" for P4PE. I've used 1001, all 1002 betas and now i'm with 1003.006. I haven't experienced any probs till now with any of them and didn't see any differences in performance or stability. The only thing changed form 1001 and 1002 is the sdram idle timer which is set now at 64 (1001 and 1002 where at 0 and 16 clocks).
The rule "if it ain't broken don't fix it" applies here. Whenever i get a new mb i do the first setup with it's shipped bios to test stability, performance and oc. Then i play with bios. However when i have devided on one, i prefer flashing it before setting up everything else.

Thanks JoeBar, appreciate the answer. It doesn't seem like anyone in any of these forums have landed on the "best" BIOS for this board, so I will just wait and see what which version I have when it arrives.

FB · 01-25-2003, 09:02 PM

a dual-boot guide to Linux would be nice because i want to install Linux on one of my computers, but the problem is it is a laptop i am required to rent every semester and there are certain proggies you can only get from the schools helpdesk when they re-image your drive...yes that is correct if you go in with a problem, they say and i quote "i don't know what that means, but we can reimage your HD if you want"

so yes for a n00b like me, a guide on how to dual-boot linux would be very helpful

BigCat · 01-25-2003, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brschmid
a dual-boot guide to Linux would be nice because i want to install Linux on one of my computers, but the problem is it is a laptop i am required to rent every semester and there are certain proggies you can only get from the schools helpdesk when they re-image your drive...yes that is correct if you go in with a problem, they say and i quote "i don't know what that means, but we can reimage your HD if you want"

so yes for a n00b like me, a guide on how to dual-boot linux would be very helpful

brschmid, in case you can't wait, here is a guide I ran into:

http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00011.asp

FB · 01-25-2003, 10:01 PM

thanks i am attempting to install linux right now

i just repartitioned my drive with partition magic

i am using WIN98SE

01-25-2003, 02:24 AM	#31
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01-25-2003, 04:02 AM	#33
PaleRider Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 118	He He Good one Mr Steveo __________________ * P4PE/R/L/F/SATA Retail * P4 2.4 B Retail H/S Fan ASIII Corsair 512MB CMX512-3200C2 PC3200 WD Special Edition 80 GB 8MB cache * Antec SX1040BII 400 watt ATX * "The rest is the usual suspects"
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01-25-2003, 07:39 AM	#35
shootcraps Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,023	Nice work Mr Steveo. I usually install Directx, video and sound drivers between motherboard drivers and add-on pci card drivers. My reasoning was these are more important than anything else and should be given priority. Any thoughts?
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01-25-2003, 08:42 AM	#37
Nikademus geek Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 105	A guide to installing an OS cannot be complete without telling how to install a real OS.. Please tell us how to install linux or fbsd. __________________ Nikademus P4 2000 @ 3000mhz \| Debian GNU/Linux \| NetBSD \| OpenBSD \| FreeBSD
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Nikademus geek Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 105	Hey, I know how to install them. But many people are still hesitating, so a guide could be good. I also know that it's easier to install many linux distributions than to install windows, as long as you don't require dual boot. __________________ Nikademus P4 2000 @ 3000mhz \| Debian GNU/Linux \| NetBSD \| OpenBSD \| FreeBSD
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FB Re-Retiring Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN, USA Posts: 24,834	a dual-boot guide to Linux would be nice because i want to install Linux on one of my computers, but the problem is it is a laptop i am required to rent every semester and there are certain proggies you can only get from the schools helpdesk when they re-image your drive...yes that is correct if you go in with a problem, they say and i quote "i don't know what that means, but we can reimage your HD if you want" so yes for a n00b like me, a guide on how to dual-boot linux would be very helpful __________________ Bye Bye ABXZone.....Rest In Peace.
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FB Re-Retiring Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN, USA Posts: 24,834	thanks i am attempting to install linux right now i just repartitioned my drive with partition magic i am using WIN98SE __________________ Bye Bye ABXZone.....Rest In Peace.
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