Operating System / Software Installation Guide

[Dan-Baer]

The only DX 10 cards out now are NVIDIA's high end ones. There should be lots more lower cost choices from both companies in a few months. Unless you have to have a new card right now, unless you want to pay that much I would get nothing right now.

[bdj470]

Thanks for the posts about the new cards coming out.

The Ati that card I am receiving (infact just got it today) was for someone else. The person backed out. I know I could have sent it back but I said what the heck I install in this new system until I can afford something better.

Thanks again.

[Slipstream_abx]

Mr Stevo
I built a P4C800 Deluxe and followed your install and everything worked out just fine. I'm building new rig P5K3 Deluxe with 2G DRR3 and Intel Q6600. Will the same basic procedure work work with this combo and XP Pro?

[byGeorge]

In the old days after an operating system install you would still have an exclamation point in device manager for your video adapter (and your monitor would operate in a crude low resolution mode) until you loaded the latest ATI drivers and control panel relevent to your card. After a fresh install of WXP Pro SP2 on an old system with a Radeon 7000/VE card this week I see that Windows loaded a driver automatically. The driver is over 3 years old and I would like to update it. There are no items in Start>CP>AR programs related to ATI including the uninstall utility but an ATI driver is found in device manager under the video adaptor. ATI tells me that I have to follow this detailed process for previous driver removal which includes registry modifications before the first install of the proper drivers/CP. Is this really the process for a fresh OS install with an ATI based card?:

Fresh OS install complete with an automatically inserted, outdated driver
Complicated removal of outdated driver including registry modifications
Install of the proper ATI driver
Hope that you do not hose your fresh install

All of this is particularly troubling given the known sensitivity of proper removal/install of ATI drivers as discussed by Mr. Steveo, ATI technical, various forum posts, etc.

Does nVidia have this problem? I am thinking of making a switch after 10 years and a dozen computer builds with ATI.

Thanks,

[Dan-Baer]

I have loaded the last three versions of NVIDIA's drivers right on top of each other with no problems. They state that the new WHQL drivers include the proper uninstall commands. I always used to delete the drivers then use driver cleaner. With their latest it no longer seems necessary.
See my Sig for my hardware.

[tracirose]

Already helped :o)

[Richardtw]

Good Evening.

Firstly let me apologise if this has been discussed previously and I have just been unable to find it.

With the Asus P5E3 Premium motherboard I am intending to load XP Pro.
The drives I will be connecting are as follows:-
2 - SATA-II VelociRaptors 300GB each
2 - Western Digital SATA-II 640GB each
1 - Blu-Ray Rewriter + DVD/CD etc. SATA-II
2 - IDE DVD Rewriters
1 - Floppy + 10 card multi reader/writer

The question is-

How can I get the Bios and XP operating system to see the drives in the following sequence before and during the setup of the Bios and installation of the XP Pro operating system?
1st VelociRaptor (SATA) as Drive C and bootable
2nd Velociraptor (SATA as Drive D
the 2 Western Digital SATA drives as Drive E and Drive F
the Blu-Ray Rewriter (SATA) as Drive G
the primary IDE DVD Rewriter as Drive H and bootable (Needed for XP Install)
the slave IDE DVD rewriter as Drive I
the Floppy as Drive A
the other multi reader/writers as drives J and above


Kind Regards


Richard

[zman88]

Pretty sure you have to make a slipstreamed xp CD with at least sp2 if not sp3.

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by Richardtw

Good Evening.

Firstly let me apologise if this has been discussed previously and I have just been unable to find it.

With the Asus P5E3 Premium motherboard I am intending to load XP Pro.
The drives I will be connecting are as follows:-
2 - SATA-II VelociRaptors 300GB each
2 - Western Digital SATA-II 640GB each
1 - Blu-Ray Rewriter + DVD/CD etc. SATA-II
2 - IDE DVD Rewriters
1 - Floppy + 10 card multi reader/writer

The question is-

How can I get the Bios and XP operating system to see the drives in the following sequence before and during the setup of the Bios and installation of the XP Pro operating system?
1st VelociRaptor (SATA) as Drive C and bootable
2nd Velociraptor (SATA as Drive D
the 2 Western Digital SATA drives as Drive E and Drive F
the Blu-Ray Rewriter (SATA) as Drive G
the primary IDE DVD Rewriter as Drive H and bootable (Needed for XP Install)
the slave IDE DVD rewriter as Drive I
the Floppy as Drive A
the other multi reader/writers as drives J and above


Kind Regards


Richard

You joined in July 2001 and this is your first post?!?!?!?! WOW!

p.s. you could just install the boot drive and optical for the install and then add all the other drives later.

[Richardtw]

Originally Posted by PeterT

You joined in July 2001 and this is your first post?!?!?!?! WOW!

p.s. you could just install the boot drive and optical for the install and then add all the other drives later.

Thanks for the suggestion PeterT

Most answers are available by browsing the net. This Guide of Steveo's has helped me with my first P4C800 setup & installation and many times since. Other contributors to this thread have also been extremely helpful. So there has been no need for me to clutter the forum until now.

It appears that the new boards with the combination of different storage devices have been causing major problems and I have not really found a satisfactory answer. From what I have been reading, I get the impression that when one adds the floppy + multimedia drives, they take A AND C upwards - before the IDE and SATA drives get a chance. In addition it seems that IDE gets a crack at drive allocation before SATA. Also the sequence of SATA drive allocation is also random. Hence the post. Trying and get it working correctly from the start.

From your suggestion I derive that a staggered approach of adding the drives one by one, only after XP Pro is loaded, and 'hard' selecting the drive position before adding the next would be the way to proceed. Floppy + multimedia would be last item added.

Only questions left are:-
how do we get the SATA to be seen as drive C and the DVD rewriter as drive D from the start?
Is the Floppy not required to load some drivers during installation?

[RoadStar]

Originally Posted by Richardtw

Only questions left are:-
how do we get the SATA to be seen as drive C and the DVD rewriter as drive D from the start?
Is the Floppy not required to load some drivers during installation?

What I did on my System was only had the SATA HD and a PATA DVD ROM installed. When XP rebooted for the final time and before windows stared for the first time, I went into BIOS and asigned the SATA as first in boot sequence. XP recognize the SATA as C and the DVD as D...................

[Richardtw]

Originally Posted by RoadStar

What I did on my System was only had the SATA HD and a PATA DVD ROM installed. When XP rebooted for the final time and before windows stared for the first time, I went into BIOS and asigned the SATA as first in boot sequence. XP recognize the SATA as C and the DVD as D...................

Thanks for your comments on your experience, RoadStar.

Between you and PeterT I now have a plan of action for the hard drive installations.

One last question outstanding - does one not need to load drivers from a floppy during the XP installation?

Regards


Richard

[RoadStar]

If yer asking about the chipset or SATA drivers, you can use a CD. But I usually just install all my drivers after XP is installed, I've had no problems so far. I turned off the Floppy Drive in the BIOS..............

[DBoone]

Originally Posted by RoadStar

If yer asking about the chipset or SATA drivers, you can use a CD. But I usually just install all my drivers after XP is installed, I've had no problems so far. I turned off the Floppy Drive in the BIOS..............

Me too.