"P4C800-E Deluxe" OC'ing tips etc. - Page 6

BBThumper · 12-03-2003, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by sierra_bound
Spread spectrum allows you to reduce electro-magnetic interference (EMI) on your motherboard. But it can cause your system to become unstable if you're overclocking. Therefore it should be turned off. Regarding ICH delayed transaction, I've never heard a really good explanation. But my system works better when it's enabled.

.......I think ICH Delay is the same as PCI Delay. Since our mobos have the ICH controller it would make sense. I always have it enabled.........been asking Adrian for 4 weeks now and still no response

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OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 02:28 PM

I just about tried every frickin' setting for the memory (see my previous 4 posts and it still doesn't pass all the tests.

Can I conclude my memory can't handle a 3.5Ghz CPU???

Does anyone think it'll work when switching the vdimm to 2.85??? For some reason, I don't.

I'm figuring maybe it's best to get some corsair TWINX or something like that, or maybe buy some active memcoolers en try and push the FSB slowly from 233 to 250 running memory at 1:1....

Any suggestions, anyone??

Sierra_abx · 12-03-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by BBThumper
.......I think ICH Delay is the same as PCI Delay. Since our mobos have the ICH controller it would make sense. I always have it enabled.........been asking Adrian for 4 weeks now and still no response ................

Thanks, BBThumper.

I checked the Asus website and found no info. :sad: I'll be installing my 2.4C this weekend. Will let you know what happens. I want to join all you high FSB guys.

kkant · 12-03-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by sierra_bound
Spread spectrum allows you to reduce electro-magnetic interference (EMI) on your motherboard.

It should be mentioned that the actual amount of EMI is no different between spread spectrum enabled and disabled, in case anyone is worrying about turning into Fallout Boy if they disable this.

Since the EMI spectrum is "spread" across a frequency band rather than concentrated at one point, it can fool EMI detectors into thinking that there are less emmisions. So the "enabled" setting is used to pass government EMI tests, and the "disabled" setting is used to overclock (since you don't want frequencies wavering when you OC).

OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 03:02 PM

I've never heard of an explanation like yours, but I like it!!!!

I think I'm gonna disable that stuff.

Where did you get this info?

enroscado · 12-03-2003, 03:54 PM

You can use The Definitive BIOS Optimization Guide as a reference, and to clear that kind of things up, but you have to know that not every mobo responds the same way to those inputs.

OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 03:58 PM

How am I going to be sur it's my mem that's holding me back?

enroscado · 12-03-2003, 04:03 PM

Use Memtest and you'll be sure.

BTW, did you up vdimm to 2.85? That's the first thing i would do.

OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 04:07 PM

I'm downloading memtest right now (done).

Actually I got fed up with testing so I didn't even try the 2.85 setting. Have you read my test results? Based on that, would you say 2.85 will work?? What settings should I begin with?

enroscado · 12-03-2003, 04:19 PM

Yes i have.
You should start with everything AUTO, and if it works, start tweaking one thing at a time.

I don't know if 2.85V will work, but it sure will help.

OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 04:22 PM

Just found out that the mem DOES run at CAS 2. Right now it totally crashed b/c I tried setting RAS to 2.

I'll keep the info coming....!

enroscado · 12-03-2003, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by OC-Otto
I'll keep the info coming....!

We'll be waiting!

OC-Otto · 12-03-2003, 04:30 PM

For some reason this crash-free crap doesn't work for me, I have to move the RTC jumper every time it crashes. Any word on this??

Update: sorry, it does. It's just that it doesn't do it all the time.

Without OCing the FSB, I've got the mem up to 2-3-3-7 instead of 2.5-3-3-8.....

Update: got it down to 2-3-3-5, have the bus up to 250 again, using a 5/4 divider for the mem (FSB233 and mem on 1:1, doesn't work anymore with these settings).

We're back in 3DMark03 again......

enroscado · 12-03-2003, 04:39 PM

Sometimes Crash-Free just doesn't kick in. In those cases, turn you computer off, and then back on, more tha once if necessary. Works for me.

BBThumper · 12-03-2003, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by enroscado
Sometimes Crash-Free just doesn't kick in. In those cases, turn you computer off, and then back on, more tha once if necessary. Works for me.

......bios 1014 fixed that for me..............

12-03-2003, 02:28 PM	#77
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	I just about tried every frickin' setting for the memory (see my previous 4 posts and it still doesn't pass all the tests. Can I conclude my memory can't handle a 3.5Ghz CPU??? Does anyone think it'll work when switching the vdimm to 2.85??? For some reason, I don't. I'm figuring maybe it's best to get some corsair TWINX or something like that, or maybe buy some active memcoolers en try and push the FSB slowly from 233 to 250 running memory at 1:1.... Any suggestions, anyone?? __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side)
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12-03-2003, 03:02 PM	#80
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	I've never heard of an explanation like yours, but I like it!!!! I think I'm gonna disable that stuff. Where did you get this info? __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side)
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12-03-2003, 03:54 PM	#81
enroscado -_- Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Argentina Posts: 390	You can use The Definitive BIOS Optimization Guide as a reference, and to clear that kind of things up, but you have to know that not every mobo responds the same way to those inputs. __________________ www.losvagos.net
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12-03-2003, 03:58 PM	#82
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	How am I going to be sur it's my mem that's holding me back? __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side)
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12-03-2003, 04:03 PM	#83
enroscado -_- Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Argentina Posts: 390	Use Memtest and you'll be sure. BTW, did you up vdimm to 2.85? That's the first thing i would do. __________________ www.losvagos.net
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12-03-2003, 04:07 PM	#84
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	I'm downloading memtest right now (done). Actually I got fed up with testing so I didn't even try the 2.85 setting. Have you read my test results? Based on that, would you say 2.85 will work?? What settings should I begin with? __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side)
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12-03-2003, 04:19 PM	#85
enroscado -_- Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Argentina Posts: 390	Yes i have. You should start with everything AUTO, and if it works, start tweaking one thing at a time. I don't know if 2.85V will work, but it sure will help. __________________ www.losvagos.net
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12-03-2003, 04:22 PM	#86
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	Just found out that the mem DOES run at CAS 2. Right now it totally crashed b/c I tried setting RAS to 2. I'll keep the info coming....! __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side)
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12-03-2003, 04:30 PM	#88
OC-Otto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	For some reason this crash-free crap doesn't work for me, I have to move the RTC jumper every time it crashes. Any word on this?? Update: sorry, it does. It's just that it doesn't do it all the time. Without OCing the FSB, I've got the mem up to 2-3-3-7 instead of 2.5-3-3-8..... Update: got it down to 2-3-3-5, have the bus up to 250 again, using a 5/4 divider for the mem (FSB233 and mem on 1:1, doesn't work anymore with these settings). We're back in 3DMark03 again...... __________________ Intel Pentium 4C 2.8Ghz@3150Mhz P4C800-E Deluxe 2 x OEM DDR400 512MB in Dual Channel 2 x Maxtor 120GB SATA 8M on ICH5R RAID0 Hercules 3D Prohpet 9800 PRO Zalman 7000A-AlCu 4 Coolermate ALU led fans (2 intakes front, 2 outtakes rear) 1 x 90mm fan (intake side) 1 x 80mm fan (intake side) Last edited by OC-Otto : 12-03-2003 at 04:49 PM.
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12-03-2003, 04:39 PM	#89
enroscado -_- Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Argentina Posts: 390	Sometimes Crash-Free just doesn't kick in. In those cases, turn you computer off, and then back on, more tha once if necessary. Works for me. __________________ www.losvagos.net
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