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tamarelle · 05-15-2001, 11:04 AM

Hey Budz

OZZIE You just made me laugh

I have the same situation... I have AT&T Worldnet for a backup in case something happens to my cable.. but I had a problem with my cable for four days and when it was out i didn't even bother with the AT&T dial up.... its so slow I can't even stand it anymore...

definitely spoiled

Tam

**SubZero** · 05-15-2001, 11:10 AM

Thanks buddies for that info..

Gareth, I don't think think I have anything to choose. There is only one provider in our town and regarding innovation we are in the stone age compared to Australia and the US. But thanks for that detailed info. My head is starting to spin..

I'll just wait and see what happens overhere. I'll defenitely not go for any USB modems like you suggested (and tomp).

EDIT:>>> Yeah... forget to mention it: Ozzie, I love that GIF.. Gimme' some more!!

Mariner_abx · 05-16-2001, 09:47 AM

SZ,
I just read your post, and having just installed the ADSL stuff and living in the same stoneaged country, I can give you the following advise: don't use the USB modem but the the ethernet modem. ( probably Alcatel). A little bit more difficult to install but a lot less problems afterward.
Check the following (dutch sites):http://www.adsl-online.net/index_normal.shtml ;http://www.mordax.nl/
Any questions left about local ADSL problems just ask me.
Mariner

kaz · 05-17-2001, 04:30 PM

My .02 cents as Garteh and Tomp said forget USB I have a Westell external DSL modem and a Linksys router/switch, the whole thing only uses 1 Irq for the NIC......

wayneleake · 05-26-2001, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaz
My .02 cents as Garteh and Tomp said forget USB I have a Westell external DSL modem and a Linksys router/switch, the whole thing only uses 1 Irq for the NIC......

I've had Charter Pipeline for almost two weeks now.
It screams at 500kbps down. Only 128K up, but still better than landline or one way satellite(which still uses landline for uplink).
No DSL available here. Only two small areas in modesto that have DSL available. I think it's because PacBell suxx. They screwed up their internet, and sold it to Prodigy.
Earthlink lied about their satellite service, and decided to only offer two way at $69.95 a month, with a nearly $1,000.00 start up cost (gag....).
Charter pipeline suddenly, with no fanfare, other than a minor thing in a flier they sent out, announced that they were offering it for $49.90 a month, with a free install till a certain date.
I called and asked about it, the after discussing it with my dad, called back and scheduled it for install.
the installers, one for the cable iteslf, and one for the computer part, were early. And did an excellent job.
They provided a LAN card at no charge, mine to keep, and it was set up and running quite fast. I did have to call support to get email turned on...
I called support to ask about running a server. I was told this is not, supposedly, allowed.
I could contest this, though, as the agreement I have does not say a thing about that.
I also found out that I can save $10.00 a month if I buy my own cable modem. only have to make sure it is DOCSIS, and has a MAC address. I have added a linksys Router, which is working well, and was fairly easy to set up, so far. Didn't have to modify any address to get it working. did have to do one little tweak, I forget what excactly.
I already had a firewall, Zonealarm, set up and running.
I found I get a lot more pings and scans...
Don't run DSL or cable without a firewall, or, for that matter, a virus scanner.
And don't believe everything that the sales people tell you, as they don't know, sometimes, as much as they should.
I had been told it was 500K both ways, ha ha ha...
It is 500K+ downlink, but is limited to about 128K uplink. this information from their support line, which does well when they're not busy...
oh yes, I don't recommend D-Link for routers or cards. Linksys and Netgear I will... <|:^)>

S.SubZero · 05-26-2001, 03:51 AM

I have one of those business-type DSL setups (working for my ISP has it's benefits)

768k/768k SDSL service. I use a router with 14 "real" Internet IP's assigned to it, so I don't have any type of proxy/NAT stuff to deal with. The router is a Flowpoint 2200, which I think is from like 1992 because it only has 10Mbit ports on it. I uplink'd to a 10/100 switch and my workstations feed off of that.

My DSL is decent. I originally had 1.1Mbit SDSL, but for some reason my loop length mysteriously "changed" one day and now I can only get 768k. Still, it's a solid 768k, and my latency is exceptional. My friend a few towns over has cable, and I get a lower ping time to HIS gateway than HE does. One of the beauties is the transparancy of it.. My DSL is always on, always there, and never needs to be initialized. I turn a workstation on, it's on the net, immediately.

My town recently got cable modem access. I was thinking of checking it out, maybe doing some kinda multi-homed setup.. From my apartment! 8)

See, that's why I'm Super.

-SSZ

Mushkin Rules · 05-26-2001, 03:51 AM

Go for the speed. You won't believe how fast ADSL is, especially after upgrading from that crappy-old 56 K dial-up analog transfer. It has less downtime in a year

Don't forget to tweak your cable connection, find out on how to Optimizing your xDSL/Cable Modem Connection here:

http://www.hardwareoc.com/optimize.php

And fyi, the link to Intel Inf driver 2.90.007 is not working and is still there on the frontpage of this forum. The file located at ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/TRE...ie_290_007.exe has been deleted by Asus Germany as soon as the newer driver comes out

Mushkin Rules · 05-26-2001, 06:14 AM

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**SubZero** · 05-26-2001, 02:48 PM

Thanks for all the input guys!

Looks like I have to wait for a while. The speeds on the only ADSL line I can get are patetic (not only compared to what you guys told me). Cable Internet will be available this year (they say)...

I'll do a comparison then. What ticks me off most is that even the guys working for the company that provides me with ADSL (should I go for it), think it suxx.. 1024 mbit/s is pretty sucky.... It will give an enormous speed advantage of dial-up but that doesn't justify paying more than $60 a month for that connection. They better come up with something faster soon!

SSZ: funny story! hehe

You getting a lower ping to his system then he does hehe LOL... Sounds like you have a pretty decent connection.

bajo · 05-26-2001, 02:59 PM

Austin TX Jump.Net ...$35/mo.

**Perry_abx** · 05-26-2001, 03:20 PM

Using QWEST for my DSL (640K down/256K up). Been using them since December of '99. $29.95 a month for the DSL connection and $17.95 for ISP.

What sucks though is when I signed up I got an internal PCI ADSL modem. It's a Cisco 605 and it works fine but they only have drivers for WIN95, 98 & NT 4.0. I will eventually get sick of Win98SE but I will have to find a new ADSL modem!

Anybody know where to find a good external ADSL modem for a reasonable price. (QWEST will sell me one but they charge $295!)

bajo · 05-26-2001, 06:12 PM

$35/mo, no contract, FREE ext.modem

**Perry_abx** · 05-26-2001, 06:19 PM

Mushkin Rules · 05-26-2001, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pbeyer
Using QWEST for my DSL (640K down/256K up). Been using them since December of '99. $29.95 a month for the DSL connection and $17.95 for ISP.

What sucks though is when I signed up I got an internal PCI ADSL modem. It's a Cisco 605 and it works fine but they only have drivers for WIN95, 98 & NT 4.0. I will eventually get sick of Win98SE but I will have to find a new ADSL modem!

Anybody know where to find a good external ADSL modem for a reasonable price. (QWEST will sell me one but they charge $295!)

Hey pbeyer, you're looking for a nice ADSL modem? Just click here:
http://www.ibuyer.net/category.html?cid=1004

And click on the left for DSL & look for 3COM

**Perry_abx** · 05-26-2001, 07:11 PM

Still a little on the spendy side though.

05-15-2001, 11:04 AM	#16
tamarelle talented amateur Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris, France and Florida Posts: 3,265	Hey Budz OZZIE You just made me laugh I have the same situation... I have AT&T Worldnet for a backup in case something happens to my cable.. but I had a problem with my cable for four days and when it was out i didn't even bother with the AT&T dial up.... its so slow I can't even stand it anymore... definitely spoiled Tam __________________ Asus P5B Motherboard - Intel Q6600 @ 3.1 ghz ADATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - EVGA 8800 GT PCI - XiFI Platinum - Seagate SATA 320 go, Seagate 320 go - SAMSUNG 18x DL+ Lightscribe DVD and Samsung 20x DL+ Lightscribe DVD - Windows VISTA 64 bit,Server 2003 and Vista Ultimate - Rosewill 19" LCD R912E monitor
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05-15-2001, 11:10 AM	#17
SubZero Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Below sealevel Posts: 9,665	Thanks buddies for that info.. Gareth, I don't think think I have anything to choose. There is only one provider in our town and regarding innovation we are in the stone age compared to Australia and the US. But thanks for that detailed info. My head is starting to spin.. I'll just wait and see what happens overhere. I'll defenitely not go for any USB modems like you suggested (and tomp). EDIT:>>> Yeah... forget to mention it: Ozzie, I love that GIF.. Gimme' some more!! __________________ Main Rig: Asus P5K \| Intel Core Quad Q6600 \| Corsair XMS 6400-4gig eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX KO ACS3 \| X-Fi ExtremeMusic \| Z-5500D OCZ GameXstream 850W \| ThermalTake Aguila \| Logitech G-15 Logitech MX1000 \| Synology DS-207+ NAS (2x500WD-SATA2-RAID0)
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05-16-2001, 09:47 AM	#18
Mariner_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 96	SZ, I just read your post, and having just installed the ADSL stuff and living in the same stoneaged country, I can give you the following advise: don't use the USB modem but the the ethernet modem. ( probably Alcatel). A little bit more difficult to install but a lot less problems afterward. Check the following (dutch sites):http://www.adsl-online.net/index_normal.shtml ;http://www.mordax.nl/ Any questions left about local ADSL problems just ask me. Mariner
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05-17-2001, 04:30 PM	#19
kaz ØLÐ GUÝ® Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,514	My .02 cents as Garteh and Tomp said forget USB I have a Westell external DSL modem and a Linksys router/switch, the whole thing only uses 1 Irq for the NIC...... __________________ "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
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05-26-2001, 03:51 AM	#21
S.SubZero Vista x64 User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,265	I have one of those business-type DSL setups (working for my ISP has it's benefits) 768k/768k SDSL service. I use a router with 14 "real" Internet IP's assigned to it, so I don't have any type of proxy/NAT stuff to deal with. The router is a Flowpoint 2200, which I think is from like 1992 because it only has 10Mbit ports on it. I uplink'd to a 10/100 switch and my workstations feed off of that. My DSL is decent. I originally had 1.1Mbit SDSL, but for some reason my loop length mysteriously "changed" one day and now I can only get 768k. Still, it's a solid 768k, and my latency is exceptional. My friend a few towns over has cable, and I get a lower ping time to HIS gateway than HE does. One of the beauties is the transparancy of it.. My DSL is always on, always there, and never needs to be initialized. I turn a workstation on, it's on the net, immediately. My town recently got cable modem access. I was thinking of checking it out, maybe doing some kinda multi-homed setup.. From my apartment! 8) See, that's why I'm Super. -SSZ
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05-26-2001, 03:51 AM	#22
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Go for the speed. You won't believe how fast ADSL is, especially after upgrading from that crappy-old 56 K dial-up analog transfer. It has less downtime in a year Don't forget to tweak your cable connection, find out on how to Optimizing your xDSL/Cable Modem Connection here: http://www.hardwareoc.com/optimize.php And fyi, the link to Intel Inf driver 2.90.007 is not working and is still there on the frontpage of this forum. The file located at ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/TRE...ie_290_007.exe has been deleted by Asus Germany as soon as the newer driver comes out Last edited by Mushkin Rules : 05-26-2001 at 05:06 AM.
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05-26-2001, 02:48 PM	#24
SubZero Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Below sealevel Posts: 9,665	Thanks for all the input guys! Looks like I have to wait for a while. The speeds on the only ADSL line I can get are patetic (not only compared to what you guys told me). Cable Internet will be available this year (they say)... I'll do a comparison then. What ticks me off most is that even the guys working for the company that provides me with ADSL (should I go for it), think it suxx.. 1024 mbit/s is pretty sucky.... It will give an enormous speed advantage of dial-up but that doesn't justify paying more than $60 a month for that connection. They better come up with something faster soon! SSZ: funny story! hehe You getting a lower ping to his system then he does hehe LOL... Sounds like you have a pretty decent connection. __________________ Main Rig: Asus P5K \| Intel Core Quad Q6600 \| Corsair XMS 6400-4gig eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX KO ACS3 \| X-Fi ExtremeMusic \| Z-5500D OCZ GameXstream 850W \| ThermalTake Aguila \| Logitech G-15 Logitech MX1000 \| Synology DS-207+ NAS (2x500WD-SATA2-RAID0)
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05-26-2001, 02:59 PM	#25
bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,176	DSL basic service Austin TX Jump.Net ...$35/mo. __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x200GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6001SP1
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Perry_abx Modulator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Paul, MN - USA Posts: 5,912	Using QWEST for my DSL (640K down/256K up). Been using them since December of '99. $29.95 a month for the DSL connection and $17.95 for ISP. What sucks though is when I signed up I got an internal PCI ADSL modem. It's a Cisco 605 and it works fine but they only have drivers for WIN95, 98 & NT 4.0. I will eventually get sick of Win98SE but I will have to find a new ADSL modem! Anybody know where to find a good external ADSL modem for a reasonable price. (QWEST will sell me one but they charge $295!) __________________ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066, Palit 9600GT Sonic, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1600, 250GB Seagate, 250GB Maxtor, Lite-On XJ-HD166, NEC ND-2510A, Antec SLK3700BQE, Antec SP-500, LG L226WT Widescreen
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bajo C1eaner Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: TX, USA Posts: 17,176	Jump.Net DSL service - TX $35/mo, no contract, FREE ext.modem __________________ USA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Duke (The Shootist) Gigabyte_AGP_LGA775, PentiumD960_dual core 3.6GHz, SapphireHD3850_AGP512MB_DDR2, WD RaptorX 150GB SATA_clearTop_16MB + Seagate 1TB SATA_32MB, CorsairDominator 2GB 8500_1066MHz, Dell 24" 2408WFP *AGP +DVIx2 +HDMI +DisplayPort +USB2x4, XPproSP3 Inspiron9400 17"uxga CentrinoC2duoT7600_2.39GHz_685MHz 4GB Micron6400@800_675_400MHz GeForceGo7900GSMobileForce_M6Enhanced_256MB 2x200GbSATA_7200rpm_16MBcache Vista hp, VistaP6001SP1
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05-26-2001, 07:11 PM	#30
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