Quick question about direct connection to Modem after Router failure

alien resident · 05-31-2007, 09:46 AM

I am helping a co-worker. HIs router is completley dead. BFSX-41 Linksys. Nothing special done to it, just going thru the default setup to get his two PC connected to the 'net. Anyway with it being dead he wanted to connect back to his modem directly to surf temporarily. He says that Now he cant get a connection. I asked him to reboot both modem and PC and try again. No luck. I've personally noticed this on one occassion where switching from a router to the modem, its not a simple connection. What am I missing ?

Dread · 05-31-2007, 12:14 PM

I think your friend has to call their ISP to make the change.
I sorta remember that when I added a router years ago, I had to register the mac address of the router with my ISP before it worked properly.
Hope it helps

traveler · 05-31-2007, 12:31 PM

You should be able to make the setting changes yourself.

Try pushing the reset button on the modem for six seconds to reset the modem back to factory defaults. Then access the modem using its IP address. After accessing the modem's settings, set them to what's needed for his ISP.

At the moment, the router is doing all the housekeeping. Without the router, the modem now has to do it. Factory defaults has this enabled for the initial setup of the modem.

Don't forget without the router there will be no hardware firewall.

I've had to do this a few times myself to avoid the extra charges from my ISP for networked extra computers. They charge me for one modem and one computer directly connected to it. I put in the router and switches and did the setting changes in the modem and router.

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alien resident · 05-31-2007, 01:00 PM

umm..I think there is a misunderstanding. It was hooked up to the modem directly before. Comcast. It was as simple as just hooking up and surfing . Then he bought a router and went thru it instead. And that was working fine. Since that fried he wants to GO BACK to hooking directly to modem. Thats not giving him a connection now. What could have changed ??

EDIT : not toyou Traveller. I posted this late...after you posted

traveler · 05-31-2007, 01:05 PM

No problem.

Push and hold the modem reset button for six seconds. See if that helps. Pushing the modem reset button for 1 or 2 seconds reboots the modem. Pushing the the reset button for 4 or 6 seconds resets the modem.

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*Bofinn* · 05-31-2007, 01:41 PM

unplug the modem for 60 seconds.

Dread · 05-31-2007, 02:16 PM

AR-

What I meant was I had to register my router with Comcast for it to work.
It makes sense to me that if the registered device is removed, that the connection will no longer work. Of course if simply resetting the modem fixes the problem, then it would be way easier to do that

Good luck!

05-31-2007, 09:46 AM	#1
alien resident a xeno..what ?? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,104	Quick question about direct connection to Modem after Router failure I am helping a co-worker. HIs router is completley dead. BFSX-41 Linksys. Nothing special done to it, just going thru the default setup to get his two PC connected to the 'net. Anyway with it being dead he wanted to connect back to his modem directly to surf temporarily. He says that Now he cant get a connection. I asked him to reboot both modem and PC and try again. No luck. I've personally noticed this on one occassion where switching from a router to the modem, its not a simple connection. What am I missing ? __________________ My Rig AMD FX-60 \| Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe \| 2x1Gb Corsair XMS 3500LL Pro \| 2X Asus 7900 GTX in SLI \| OCZ 600W PSU \| Koolance EXOS-1 with CPU-305-V06 Block \| Razer Copperhead Chaos with eXactmat My Laptop USED Alienware Area-51 : Intel P4 1.8 Ghz \| Intel i845M mobo \| 2x512 Corsair \| ATI Mobile 7500 Radeon \| Samsung 100Gb HD \| Dual boot OS : XP Home & Ubuntu Linux \| Razer Diamondback Wife's Rig Intel P4 3.4c @ 3.6 Vcore 1.5625v \| Kingston HyperX 1 Gb (512x2) DDR434 2.5,3,3,7 Vdimm 2.8v \| Gigabyte GA-8KNXP Rev 2.0 FH BIOS \| WIN XP Pro Sp 2 \| Powercolor X800 XT PE \| SB Audigy 2 ZS \| 36Gb Raptors X 2 RAID O 128k Stripe \| Liteon 52X/16X CD/DVD ROM \| Antec True 550W PSU \| MSI Floppy \|
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05-31-2007, 12:14 PM	#2
Dread Eddie would go Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,045	I think your friend has to call their ISP to make the change. I sorta remember that when I added a router years ago, I had to register the mac address of the router with my ISP before it worked properly. Hope it helps __________________ P4C800-Deluxe (BIOS 1016) \| P4 2.6C SL6WS @ 3.3 \| 2*512MB Kingston HyperX 3500 (5:4) 2.5-3-3-7 \| ATI Radeon X800XL \| WD 60GB 7200 / WD 120GB 7200 8MB \| Memorex 16X DVD-Rom \| Sony DRU-530A ±R/±RW DVD Burner \| OCZ Powerstream 520 \| Thermaltake Tsunami Black \|Windows XP Pro SP1a
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05-31-2007, 12:31 PM	#3
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,168	You should be able to make the setting changes yourself. Try pushing the reset button on the modem for six seconds to reset the modem back to factory defaults. Then access the modem using its IP address. After accessing the modem's settings, set them to what's needed for his ISP. At the moment, the router is doing all the housekeeping. Without the router, the modem now has to do it. Factory defaults has this enabled for the initial setup of the modem. Don't forget without the router there will be no hardware firewall. I've had to do this a few times myself to avoid the extra charges from my ISP for networked extra computers. They charge me for one modem and one computer directly connected to it. I put in the router and switches and did the setting changes in the modem and router. __________________ Visit and chat with the Buds at the #ABxZone channel on EFnet Internet Relay Chat If you don't have it then download mIRC from www.mIRC.com
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05-31-2007, 01:00 PM	#4
alien resident a xeno..what ?? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,104	umm..I think there is a misunderstanding. It was hooked up to the modem directly before. Comcast. It was as simple as just hooking up and surfing . Then he bought a router and went thru it instead. And that was working fine. Since that fried he wants to GO BACK to hooking directly to modem. Thats not giving him a connection now. What could have changed ?? EDIT : not toyou Traveller. I posted this late...after you posted __________________ My Rig AMD FX-60 \| Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe \| 2x1Gb Corsair XMS 3500LL Pro \| 2X Asus 7900 GTX in SLI \| OCZ 600W PSU \| Koolance EXOS-1 with CPU-305-V06 Block \| Razer Copperhead Chaos with eXactmat My Laptop USED Alienware Area-51 : Intel P4 1.8 Ghz \| Intel i845M mobo \| 2x512 Corsair \| ATI Mobile 7500 Radeon \| Samsung 100Gb HD \| Dual boot OS : XP Home & Ubuntu Linux \| Razer Diamondback Wife's Rig Intel P4 3.4c @ 3.6 Vcore 1.5625v \| Kingston HyperX 1 Gb (512x2) DDR434 2.5,3,3,7 Vdimm 2.8v \| Gigabyte GA-8KNXP Rev 2.0 FH BIOS \| WIN XP Pro Sp 2 \| Powercolor X800 XT PE \| SB Audigy 2 ZS \| 36Gb Raptors X 2 RAID O 128k Stripe \| Liteon 52X/16X CD/DVD ROM \| Antec True 550W PSU \| MSI Floppy \|
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05-31-2007, 01:05 PM	#5
traveler Where to next? Join Date: May 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 18,168	No problem. Push and hold the modem reset button for six seconds. See if that helps. Pushing the modem reset button for 1 or 2 seconds reboots the modem. Pushing the the reset button for 4 or 6 seconds resets the modem. __________________ Visit and chat with the Buds at the #ABxZone channel on EFnet Internet Relay Chat If you don't have it then download mIRC from www.mIRC.com
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05-31-2007, 01:41 PM	#6
Bofinn I'm gettin' dizzy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 11,035	unplug the modem for 60 seconds. __________________ ---------- JimBo ----------- When in doubt, smack it!
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05-31-2007, 02:16 PM	#7
Dread Eddie would go Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,045	AR- What I meant was I had to register my router with Comcast for it to work. It makes sense to me that if the registered device is removed, that the connection will no longer work. Of course if simply resetting the modem fixes the problem, then it would be way easier to do that Good luck! __________________ P4C800-Deluxe (BIOS 1016) \| P4 2.6C SL6WS @ 3.3 \| 2*512MB Kingston HyperX 3500 (5:4) 2.5-3-3-7 \| ATI Radeon X800XL \| WD 60GB 7200 / WD 120GB 7200 8MB \| Memorex 16X DVD-Rom \| Sony DRU-530A ±R/±RW DVD Burner \| OCZ Powerstream 520 \| Thermaltake Tsunami Black \|Windows XP Pro SP1a
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