Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers

Briton · 08-19-2008, 11:22 AM

AnandTech

Might not wait to upgrade after reading that. The Wolfdale is looking yummy @ $170.

*polonyc2* · 08-19-2008, 11:51 AM

interesting read...I wasn't planning on upgrading to Nehalem immediately anyhow but this just reinforces that decision...looks like I'll be sticking with my E8400 Penryn chip for a much longer period (maybe until the 2nd gen Nehalem chips?)...maybe I'll upgrade to a quad Penryn chip later on down the line or invest in a new GPU to improve performance for the forseeable future

Briton · 08-19-2008, 12:04 PM

I was hesitant to move to the Nehalem anyway because of DDR3 prices, but this definitely sold me on a ASUS P5Q Pro w/ a 3.0GHz Wolfdale processor. I can spend a little over a hundred for some good PC8500 RAM and most likely push it far enough that I won't have to worry for some time, and it won't break the bank.

chuckbam · 08-21-2008, 05:28 AM

I think the PC market has been to focused on gaming. I don't play games. And I did I would just buy a game box. I like the fact that video editing and real computing is emphasized with the Nehalem.

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ATINUT · 08-22-2008, 05:58 PM

A Q6600 Quad Core cpu is starting to look better after reading that.

chuckbam · 08-22-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ATINUT

A Q6600 Quad Core cpu is starting to look better after reading that.

I have been real happy with the Quad. It will over clock more than I run it. And, seems to be much more responsive than dual cores I go on.

I will eventually go Nehalem, but I will be in no rush. I think I will be able to wait till the prices settle a little.

I will not want to go with 6GBs of memory. So hopefully good DDR3 will be more affordable. May sound crazy, but, I want 12GBs.

ATINUT · 08-22-2008, 08:18 PM

My Core 2 Duo E6600, and my system over all started performing better when I went to 8GB's of ram in my system.

I'm waiting to see what Intel has up their sleeve in 2009 in the graphics and cpu market.

**Sandog** · 08-22-2008, 10:40 PM

For me gaming and computers go together. I remember being amazed at running through Windows 2.0 then 3.0/3.11 with my first computer (386SX25.) Then I purchased my first graphics cards (ATI Mach 8 then 32) and playing Wolfenstein3D. I've been hooked since and have managed to stay on the bleeding edge most of the time.

Briton · 08-23-2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckbam

I think the PC market has been to focused on gaming. I don't play games. And I did I would just buy a game box. I like the fact that video editing and real computing is emphasized with the Nehalem.

It seems to me like this processor is geared towards database and HPC jobs more than anything else, as rendering graphics is still something that is going to hold up on a Wolfdale or Yorkfield perfectly fine with the L2 cache.

I'm not seeing any immediate need to move to Nehalem.

Thandurin · 08-25-2008, 10:53 AM

This and the fact that early Nehalem motherboards will probably cost a fortune convinced me that Core 2 Quad is the way to go. It will probably be more stable in the long run too.

chuckbam · 08-25-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Thandurin

This and the fact that early Nehalem motherboards will probably cost a fortune convinced me that Core 2 Quad is the way to go. It will probably be more stable in the long run too.

Why more stable in the "long run". I would think only in the short run.

chuckbam · 08-25-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ATINUT

My Core 2 Duo E6600, and my system over all started performing better when I went to 8GB's of ram in my system.

I'm waiting to see what Intel has up their sleeve in 2009 in the graphics and cpu market.

I have not read anything on Intel graphics. Other than, the two PCI-E will both have x16 width. And 2.0 which is out now. I have read conflicting news about SLI support. Am I missing anything?

But, who knows what will be out by Q4/ 2009

Today I read that Intel on-board video will have dual monitor support. I like that because I will be up-grading 3 lower end computers and they have/ or want dual monitors. I am holding off the upgrades till LGA1366 has the lower end dual cores out. Basic DDR3 is cheap now. I will use Intel brand boards.

I think the Core 2 Quad Q6600 at under $200.00 is a great deal.

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traveler · 08-25-2008, 04:27 PM

Yes!!! So today is a good day to upgrade!!!

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chuckbam · 08-25-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thandurin

This and the fact that early Nehalem motherboards will probably cost a fortune convinced me that Core 2 Quad is the way to go. It will probably be more stable in the long run too.

Why more stable in the "long run". I would think only in the short run.

XJ. · 08-25-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

I think the Core 2 Quad Q6600 at under $200.00 is a great deal.

I think the one of 45nm Quads would be better, just because of the lower power usage - IMHO.

08-19-2008, 11:22 AM	#1
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08-19-2008, 11:51 AM	#2
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,444	interesting read...I wasn't planning on upgrading to Nehalem immediately anyhow but this just reinforces that decision...looks like I'll be sticking with my E8400 Penryn chip for a much longer period (maybe until the 2nd gen Nehalem chips?)...maybe I'll upgrade to a quad Penryn chip later on down the line or invest in a new GPU to improve performance for the forseeable future __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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08-19-2008, 12:04 PM	#3
Briton Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 2,778	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers I was hesitant to move to the Nehalem anyway because of DDR3 prices, but this definitely sold me on a ASUS P5Q Pro w/ a 3.0GHz Wolfdale processor. I can spend a little over a hundred for some good PC8500 RAM and most likely push it far enough that I won't have to worry for some time, and it won't break the bank. __________________ ASUS P5Q Pro \|\| E8400 Wolfdale \|\| 4GB G.Skill DDR2 1200 \|\| MSI Radeon 4850 \|\| AVerMedia PCIe Tuner \|\| SB Audigy2 ZS Platinum \|\| Zalman 750W PSU \|\| LG GGW-H20L HD/BR Burner \|\| Vista Ultimate 64 \|\| Samsung 22" LCD (Desktop) Lenovo T60p \|\| T7600 Core 2 Duo \|\| 3GB \|\| 160GB \|\| FireGL 5250 \|\| Vista Ultimate / Backtrack (School) Lenovo X61 \|\| T8300 Centrino Pro \|\| 3GB \|\| 160GB \|\| XP Pro (Work)
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08-21-2008, 05:28 AM	#4
chuckbam Personal Advocate Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Louisiana USA Posts: 2,201	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers I think the PC market has been to focused on gaming. I don't play games. And I did I would just buy a game box. I like the fact that video editing and real computing is emphasized with the Nehalem. . __________________ Q6600 G0 Quad CPU at 3.28 GHz/ FSB 1640 MHz ~ Asus P5B Deluxe ~ mushkin EM2-6400, 8 GB at 810 MHz, 5-6-6-18 ~ 3x MaXLine Pro 500 RAID 0 ~ Barracuda 7200.11 1TB ~ HD 3850 512MB/ HD 2600 PRO 512MB ~ 2x ATI Theater 650 Pro ~ Silverstone OP650 PS ~ 3 LCD Multiple Display w/ full custom Aero ... Vista Ultimate 64-bit ... Windows Experience Index 5.9 ... C1E Enabled ~ System Runs 24/7 .... chuckbam.com
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08-22-2008, 05:58 PM	#5
ATINUT Just Plain Crazy! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,278	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers A Q6600 Quad Core cpu is starting to look better after reading that. __________________ Intel D975XBX2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 8GB's of Mushkin HP2 6400 memory(DDR2 800) two Sapphire GDDR4 Radeon 3870 videocards HT Omega Claro(Cmedia 8788HD chip) 120GB&200GB&320GB Western Digital harddrives LG DVDROM & LG DVDBURNER HP Deskjet 920C Logitech X-540 speakers Viewsonic VG2030wm 20inch Widescreen LCD Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit with Service Pack 1 Who'se the fool that approved the design for this place. - The Dwarf, Sacred Underworld.
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08-22-2008, 08:18 PM	#7
ATINUT Just Plain Crazy! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,278	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers My Core 2 Duo E6600, and my system over all started performing better when I went to 8GB's of ram in my system. I'm waiting to see what Intel has up their sleeve in 2009 in the graphics and cpu market. __________________ Intel D975XBX2 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 8GB's of Mushkin HP2 6400 memory(DDR2 800) two Sapphire GDDR4 Radeon 3870 videocards HT Omega Claro(Cmedia 8788HD chip) 120GB&200GB&320GB Western Digital harddrives LG DVDROM & LG DVDBURNER HP Deskjet 920C Logitech X-540 speakers Viewsonic VG2030wm 20inch Widescreen LCD Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit with Service Pack 1 Who'se the fool that approved the design for this place. - The Dwarf, Sacred Underworld.
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08-22-2008, 10:40 PM	#8
Sandog DP45SG/Q9650 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,184	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers For me gaming and computers go together. I remember being amazed at running through Windows 2.0 then 3.0/3.11 with my first computer (386SX25.) Then I purchased my first graphics cards (ATI Mach 8 then 32) and playing Wolfenstein3D. I've been hooked since and have managed to stay on the bleeding edge most of the time.
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08-25-2008, 10:53 AM	#10
Thandurin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 9	Re: Nehalem might not be worth it for gamers This and the fact that early Nehalem motherboards will probably cost a fortune convinced me that Core 2 Quad is the way to go. It will probably be more stable in the long run too. __________________ Windows Vista Home Premium 64 Service Pack 1, Antec P182, AMD Phenom 9500 2.2GHz, Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066 4x1GB, Seagate Barracuda 500GB, VisionTek Radeon HD 4870 512MB, Ultra X3 800W, Sony FW900 24" Widescreen CRT Monitor.
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