Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) - Page 3

jmlikos · 05-07-2008, 12:24 PM

Who knew a service pack could become so heated?!

bjbgraphics · 05-07-2008, 12:25 PM

"XPSP3 will continue to ship with IE6 and contains a roll-up of the latest security updates for IE6. If you are still running Internet Explorer 6, then XPSP3 will be offered to you via Windows Update as a high priority update. You can safely install XPSP3 and will have an updated version of IE6 with all your personal preferences, such as home pages and favorites, still intact."

IEBlog : IE and Windows XP Service Pack 3

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Raven

I downloaded the full 316MB SP3 file yesterday. I didn't now which is better to install that 316MB file or the 66.9MB file through windows update. Last night I went to windows update and instead of the 66.9MB file to download, the only item it wanted me to download was WGA at 1.1MB. Today when I turned on my pc, I got the windows update icon on the taskbar and it was to download SP3 (66.9MB-316MB) and I clicked on download. It just sat there and didn't do anything. I then clicked on download again and the window disappeared (not on desktop or the taskbar). I then checked the Task Manager and no windows update download process running.

What does SP3 do with IE? I'm currently running IE6 (I don't like IE7). When I install SP3, does it leave IE6 or does it intsall IE7?

fvbounty · 05-07-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlikos

Who knew a service pack could become so heated?!

Its only one guy!

zsaz1029 · 05-07-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlikos

Who knew a service pack could become so heated?!

I deal with his kind of attitude from 12 year olds play Warcraft. I think I need a sabbatical. Later all!

ctal · 05-07-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Raven

Today when I turned on my pc, I got the windows update icon on the taskbar and it was to download SP3 (66.9MB-316MB) and I clicked on download. It just sat there and didn't do anything. I then clicked on download again and the window disappeared (not on desktop or the taskbar). I then checked the Task Manager and no windows update download process running.

Yes, I've seen that behavior also, on other updates in the past. I have automatic updates set to provide notifications but not to download or install until I tell it to, which sounds like the way you are set also.

My guess is that when the icon goes away after you tell it to download, Windows is designed to automatically restart the update task, and to start the download process, at a later time when it senses a period of user inactivity. But I just ignore the notification icon altogether, and use Microsoft Update instead.

Regards,
-- Al

wallijonn · 05-07-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mrNazz

I was able to slipstream the original SP3 but when I went to install with that CD it would stop during file install. If I recall correclty the file was named mdma... I am curious if you will have the same issue. If not.. how did you slipstream?

Is this the file you mean?:

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Microsoft solved the MSD RMS issue with a hotfix, ... Microsoft suggests you install this hotfix before installing XP SP3 to avoid issues.

DailyTech - XP SP3 And Vista SP1 Back in Action

*polonyc2* · 05-07-2008, 03:16 PM

why is the Windows Update version of SP3 only 66 MB while the standalone version is over 300 MB?...seems like a huge difference...I can understand there being a slight difference based on the individual user's amount of updates previously installed...but a 234 MB difference seems out of whack

I think I'll go for the standalone version

ctal · 05-07-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by polonyc2

why is the Windows Update version of SP3 only 66 MB while the standalone version is over 300 MB?...seems like a huge difference...I can understand there being a slight difference based on the individual user's amount of updates previously installed...but a 234 MB difference seems out of whack

On my recent build, for which I installed from an XP-SP2 cd and then downloaded all the updates, there are 114 different $NTUninstall folders within C:\Windows. They seem to average around 1mB each, some smaller, some much larger. And those are associated with just the updates that are uninstallable, and are just for the post-SP2 updates. So the 234mB difference may very well make sense.

Regards,
-- Al

*Kage* · 05-07-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ATINUT

Kindly shut up, if these people would offer more proof than what they would, there wouldn't be a problem.

In this day and age, there has to be more proof than what people are saying. If you don't like it, take it to a mod. End of discussion, and you are now on my block list.

PM inbound.

*polonyc2* · 05-07-2008, 05:30 PM

a thumb wrestling deathmatch should solve all these problems

I blame global warming

Shadow_Raven · 05-07-2008, 07:06 PM

Since I had the 316MB SP3 downloaded file, I installed that. It took about 30 minutes, rebooted the pc (I was freaked when the screen turned yellow and the text "waiting........"). I also got 2 CMD windows on desktop for a while. Everything is running fine, and no problems so far.

JimTram · 05-07-2008, 08:44 PM

No problems either - used the Windows update version. Been keeping my rig updated all along so the sp3 update only took a few minutes.

ctal · 05-07-2008, 10:17 PM

No problems here so far. I installed from the 316mB file, that I had burned onto a cd, onto a 5-year old Sager laptop that was up-to-date with all previous patches. I very briefly saw the command windows that Shadow_Raven referred to (for about 3 seconds). The required reboot went through some various gyrations, but a subsequent reboot was normal. The whole process took a little over 15 minutes.

I noticed that there is now a new tab in msconfig called "Tools," with shortcuts to about a dozen system tools and information things. None of them are new, but on occasion being able to get to them this way might be a small convenience.

Regards,
-- Al

PeterT · 05-07-2008, 11:06 PM

I updated 2 machines through Windows Update. No problems. Relatively painless.

Unfortunate that this thread got a little ugly. No need for that.

maxidius · 05-08-2008, 12:44 AM

I downloaded the stand-alone SP3 and installed it on my laptop and a desktop. It took about 30 - 35 minutes, but after a required reboot, it seems booting faster. Other responses are not equally fast. Some apps come up fast, others appear to take few seconds. Except for the large backup for uninstall, I do not have any problem yet.

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05-07-2008, 07:06 PM	#41
Shadow_Raven Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 118	Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) Since I had the 316MB SP3 downloaded file, I installed that. It took about 30 minutes, rebooted the pc (I was freaked when the screen turned yellow and the text "waiting........"). I also got 2 CMD windows on desktop for a while. Everything is running fine, and no problems so far.
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05-07-2008, 08:44 PM	#42
JimTram Seabees, USN-Retired Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Camarillo, California Posts: 2,909	Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) No problems either - used the Windows update version. Been keeping my rig updated all along so the sp3 update only took a few minutes. __________________ Intel DP965LT rev 209, Q6700, KVR800D2 4096M (4x1024), eVGA 9800GTX, Seagate ST3300620AS (2x), Audigy 2ZS Platinum, SyncMaster 940BX, Brother MSC7420, Creative Inspire T3000, Sony FDD, Iomega Ext HDD 80GB, Pioneer DVR-212D, Logitech 518, Logitech Extreme 3d Pro Wingman, Antec SLK 3000-B, Antec 550W-Trio, and XPPro SP3. Dell XPS M140, Intel Pentium M750 (1.86GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB), 1024M DDR, 80GB HDD, 8X DVD+/-RW Drive, TV Tuner, and XPMCE.
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05-07-2008, 10:17 PM	#43
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,304	Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) No problems here so far. I installed from the 316mB file, that I had burned onto a cd, onto a 5-year old Sager laptop that was up-to-date with all previous patches. I very briefly saw the command windows that Shadow_Raven referred to (for about 3 seconds). The required reboot went through some various gyrations, but a subsequent reboot was normal. The whole process took a little over 15 minutes. I noticed that there is now a new tab in msconfig called "Tools," with shortcuts to about a dozen system tools and information things. None of them are new, but on occasion being able to get to them this way might be a small convenience. Regards, -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States.
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PeterT C/TUSL2C/P4P800D/P5B-D Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunny Florida, USA Posts: 2,011	Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) I updated 2 machines through Windows Update. No problems. Relatively painless. Unfortunate that this thread got a little ugly. No need for that. __________________ Proud Member: Team-CUSL2 - 'The Old School Crew' Current: P5B-D, E6600 @ 3.0, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500, EVGA 8800GTS 512MB Old: P4P800-D, P4 2.4C @ 3.0, 4x512MB Mushkin PC3200, ATI AIW X800XT 256MB Older: TUSL2C, P3-S 1.4, 2x256MB Corsair XMS150, ATI 9800PRO 128MB, TB Santa Cruz Oldest: CUSL2, P3 1.0, 1x256MB & 2x128MB Corsair PC133, Asus V7700D 32MB, SB Live!
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05-08-2008, 12:44 AM	#45
maxidius Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 480	Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 available (for real this time) I downloaded the stand-alone SP3 and installed it on my laptop and a desktop. It took about 30 - 35 minutes, but after a required reboot, it seems booting faster. Other responses are not equally fast. Some apps come up fast, others appear to take few seconds. Except for the large backup for uninstall, I do not have any problem yet. __________________ max --------- If you know you know, you don't say you know because you know no one will believe you know, being that they don't know, and can't believe anyone else know. If you don't know, you don't know you don't know, and there is no idea to say that you don't know.
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