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Old 09-19-2003, 01:19 AM   #226
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Old 09-19-2003, 01:21 AM   #227
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Hey buddy! I was just thinking about you. Have you seen nVidia driver 51.90. Some bloke has it listed on the ARC website...

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Old 09-19-2003, 01:24 AM   #228
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Don't forget about the price per processor. You would be best going with a dually Opteron 248...

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Take a look at this ChuckBam, you are going to be in for a big surprise soon. I know you have already heard about this, but here is a newer article in regards. Some said it was not worth the hype. I say they are very very wrong..

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11604
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Old 09-19-2003, 01:26 AM   #229
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Don't forget about the price per processor. You would be best going with a dually Opteron 248...
I want a 3.2GHz Prescott. I think that will be a good upgrade for my 2.8C.
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Old 09-19-2003, 01:37 AM   #230
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I want a 3.2GHz Prescott. I think that will be a good upgrade for my 2.8C.
How many 15cm fans are you planning to use to run it cool?
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Old 09-19-2003, 01:44 AM   #231
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How many 15cm fans are you planning to use to run it cool?
As many as I need and what ever I need to do. As long as I waite till 2-15. It looks like the best date/price mark. I hope I can hold off till then.
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Thank you for reminding me Realdieu!!!

To be honest, I never really gave them a second thought until I had seen how you and Pointreyes feel so confident with the chips. They must be pretty reliable thus far.

However, seeing that Intel is finally going to release Armagedon on AMD with these new chips, I somehow have a feeling that Intel is going to be able to hold AMD off for alittle longer, until AMD can get up to speeds of no less than 3.6 to 4GHZ with the current Opterons. If AMD could do that, I may consider it in the future. But the impact of the L3 cache is going to really put AMD in a rough spot in a short time from now. The L3 cache will make it easier for the P4's to scale to a level of around 5GHZ in the very near future. So imagine if you will a 4GHZ P4 with a 1333FSB with 2.5MB of on-die cache and DDR666. Yeah, I know it is going to obliviate AMD's Opteron.. This will happen Realdieu, I promise..
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:01 AM   #233
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I agree.

That will be the same time when AMD releases their 3GHz Opteron with a 1600FSB and 3MB of on-die L2 cache while handedly outperforming Intel’s new 80-stage pipeline 4GHz P4 overclocked to 4.8GHz...


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Thank you for reminding me Realdieu!!!

So imagine if you will a 4GHZ P4 with a 1333FSB with 2.5MB of on-die cache and DDR666. Yeah, I know it is going to obliviate AMD's Opteron.. This will happen Realdieu, I promise..
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:14 AM   #234
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I agree.

That will be the same time when AMD releases their 3GHz Opteron with a 1600FSB and 3MB of on-die L2 cache while handedly outperforming Intel’s new 80-stage pipeline 4GHz P4 overclocked to 4.8GHz...
That my friend, will cost you no less than $4500.00. But it would be a sight to behold..!!
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:15 AM   #235
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To be honest, I never really gave them a second thought until I had seen how you and Pointreyes feel so confident with the chips. They must be pretty reliable thus far.

However, seeing that Intel is finally going to release Armagedon on AMD with these new chips, I somehow have a feeling that Intel is going to be able to hold AMD off for alittle longer, until AMD can get up to speeds of no less than 3.6 to 4GHZ with the current Opterons. If AMD could do that, I may consider it in the future. But the impact of the L3 cache is going to really put AMD in a rough spot in a short time from now. The L3 cache will make it easier for the P4's to scale to a level of around 5GHZ in the very near future. So imagine if you will a 4GHZ P4 with a 1333FSB with 2.5MB of on-die cache and DDR666. Yeah, I know it is going to obliviate AMD's Opteron.. This will happen Realdieu, I promise..
Your focus is too much on the proc. Have fun using a U320 SCSI on a 32-bit PCI bus. And what if HL2 is converted over to 64-bit? What good is a TerraBit of throughput if the bus is only going at Megabit speeds? And don't forget that the Xeon's L3 cache did very little to help out. I have 2Meg of L2 cache running at full-clock with 4 i/o pipes. However, I have one very severe limit-no tweaking on a serverboard.
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Your focus is too much on the proc. Have fun using a U320 SCSI on a 32-bit PCI bus. And what if HL2 is converted over to 64-bit? What good is a TerraBit of throughput if the bus is only going at Megabit speeds? And don't forget that the Xeon's L3 cache did very little to help out. I have 2Meg of L2 cache running at full-clock with 4 i/o pipes. However, I have one very severe limit-no tweaking on a serverboard.
I understand your Point, Pointreyes..!! Believe me, I want nothing more than for AMD to do well. It speeds up innovation. Backing Intel into a corner is what we all want. Thats the only time they understand the problem they are facing.

A 64bit version of HL2 would do wonders for AMD's position. It would bring 64bit computing to the forfront faster than Intel is willing to let it come.

But we shall all know the answer very soon. In maybe one month we should start seeing the benchmarks for the new P4's.
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In point of fact, a 64-bit HL2 will do nothing to strengthen AMD’s position. AMD’s position will only grow when industry integrates the Opteron into their enterprise network. That is, from the server to the desktop. 64-bit applications such as MS Windows Server and Desktop, MS Office Professional, Adobe Photoshop, AutoCAD, 3DSM, Maya and perhaps Linux will validate the AMD Opteron. At that juncture, there is nothing Intel can do but join the cause and compete. AMD is certainly not looking to penetrate the niche gaming market with their flagship 64-bit processor…


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I understand your Point, Pointreyes..!! Believe me, I want nothing more than for AMD to do well. It speeds up innovation. Backing Intel into a corner is what we all want. Thats the only time they understand the problem they are facing.

A 64bit version of HL2 would do wonders for AMD's position. It would bring 64bit computing to the forfront faster than Intel is willing to let it come.

But we shall all know the answer very soon. In maybe one month we should start seeing the benchmarks for the new P4's.
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Hey buddy! I was just thinking about you. Have you seen nVidia driver 51.90. Some bloke has it listed on the ARC website...
Nope, havent seen it. 51.75 is doing fine, thow it knocked out "Smartdoctor"... Cant measure the heat for more than about 5 minutes gaming, then it alarmes that my AGP voltage is 0...and all the other voltages are 0 too... I dont believe that. It must be false... But as I OC'd the AGP bus frquency one step to 75 or what it was, I also increased the AGP voltage to 1.6. The puter is rock solid, but I wonder if the 430W PSU will take a FX5900/Radeon "max".

If u see somethin, please let me know. If anybody want the 5175, I can upload it somewhere. Just tell me where.
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Old 09-19-2003, 09:33 PM   #240
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For some reason I dont like this benchmarking software, anyways my scores are:
GFX: 3094
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