Linux Install guide? - Page 2

PCBruiser · 01-06-2005, 05:06 PM

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precast · 01-06-2005, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas_Maximus

Would anyone be interested if I did a linux install guide, so it would help people install pretty much any of the popular distro's of linux?

Excellent idea Lucas_Maximus.

I look forward to reading it.

Lucas_Maximus · 01-06-2005, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeFrat

I would love one. I'm tired of the "RTFM" attitude that I get when asking questions on other forums.

well what I am doing is not trying to walk you through, as most linux's that are "easy" have nice installer that are't too difficult to get on with if you installed windows.

I going through more confusing things such as bootloaders and partitioning. If you understand this stuff you'll be able to install some of the "hard disto's"

As far as setting up your hardware etc. I not going to cover that. I may talk about things like dependancy managers etc.

Anyway I will see from your comments what you shall all think.

Lucas_Maximus · 01-06-2005, 07:29 PM

Right here is the first draft, no pictures no prettiness.

Please read through it and suggest modifications and also suggest stuff that you would like me to include. What i explained well What i didn't and anything I may have missed.

So I looking forward to your comments.

DBoone · 01-06-2005, 08:01 PM

Pretty good start! I haven't used Linux yet but want to make a firewall box running Linux only. Anyway, I think I understood it pretty well. My two suggestions/comments are:

1. Page 6 Bootloaders - You say that you prefer grub but the numbered steps say to use LILO. Maybe you transitioned and I didn't catch it.

2. Will you be including any information on installing Linux as a stand alone OS as I intend to use? Or at least note the differences as to formatting and partitioning as a single boot Linux system?

Thanks Lucas and keep up the good work!

Lucas_Maximus · 01-06-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBoone

Pretty good start! I haven't used Linux yet but want to make a firewall box running Linux only. Anyway, I think I understood it pretty well. My two suggestions/comments are:

1. Page 6 Bootloaders - You say that you prefer grub but the numbered steps say to use LILO. Maybe you transitioned and I didn't catch it.

2. Will you be including any information on installing Linux as a stand alone OS as I intend to use? Or at least note the differences as to formatting and partitioning as a single boot Linux system?

Thanks Lucas and keep up the good work!

Firstly thankyou very much for your praise and comments.

You have brought up some very good points to address you're first.

I moved from Grub to LILO because many people do not wish to overite their windows MBR. However Looking again I didnt explain this very well. Also grub is very difficult to install manually if you have no experience with it.

The steps needed to install a linux distro standalone without windows is very similar to one mentioned above however there is no need to ressize create other partitions, I shall add a sperate section to the guide.

I would like feedback. this wll help me improve the How-to duide it is very basic skeleton layout.

Unfortunately my new hardware hasn't come throuhg and I was writing the whole thing from memory.

next week I shall have hopefully all my hardware and will be able to install it on my properly on my current machine.

Concerning your Firewall box needs, Froach has had some very good luck with clark connect firewall, this is a firwall system based on linux, however i do not know the specifics. Froach's thread is hear.

Wow - ClarkConnect Firewall the best thing since the mouse!

DBoone · 01-06-2005, 08:20 PM

I've been paying very close attention to Froach's thread on CC. I have cable instead of DSL so I'm hoping not to have the same issues he has.

wallijonn · 01-06-2005, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeFrat

I'm tired of the "RTDM" attitude that I get when asking questions on other forums.

Visit us over at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

We're a friendly bunch.

PCBruiser · 01-07-2005, 09:48 AM

I have moved this thread temporarily to the Reviews Forum so that only members can see the draft of Lucas' guide. Once the guide is edited and reviewed, the final version will be posted in a new thread in the Reviews Forum, this thread will be put back in the Linux Forum, and the draft will be deleted from the thread. That should happen later today or tomorrow. I do need a volunteer who is experienced to assist Lucas with installing Linux on SCSI and Raid as he requested. I've not gone through that myself, so help would be appreciated.

Please feel free to post any comments you may have on the draft in this thread. Also, remember that posts to the Review Forum requires moderation, but I will check the moderation queue every half hour or so, and approve any posts that members have made to this thread. So, if your post here doesn't appear immediately, it will when I approve the queue for this thread.

Thanks, in advance, for any assistance and comments.

barureddy · 01-07-2005, 11:10 AM

I like the draft so far.

A section you should include is what verious file systems people have to choose from and pros and cons of each.

PCBruiser · 01-07-2005, 11:45 AM

....bump.... for volunteers to help with the draft, particularly with installing Linux on Raid and SCSI setups.

Lucas_Maximus · 01-07-2005, 11:47 AM

I shall write up version 2 within a few hours.

barureddy · 01-07-2005, 12:08 PM

What do you need help in specifically?

Generally there are 3 different types of raid. 0,1,5 strip, redundant, and a mixter of both with more than 3 drives respectivelly.

There is is built in linux software raid which each distro will have, which will do the raid for you.

If you want hardware raid I would first scour the net for evidence of driver support. Many highpoint, adaptec, promise and lsi raid and scsi cards are supported within the linux kernel itself, but check to be sure.

I don't think you are going for compiling your own kernel section yet so you don't need to be that much more specific. All distros will have support for scsi and raid, it is just how it is done. Obvious the big distros like mandrake, red hat, and suse will have farily easy ways to implement this and distros like gentoo and debian will need some work.

Lucas_Maximus · 01-07-2005, 01:51 PM

I have never installed windows on any sort of SCSI or Raid setup and I am unsure on how to do it. My knowledge is only of installing on IDE and IDE SATA drives.

Lucas_Maximus · 01-07-2005, 01:52 PM

this is re-written and version 2 is now available.

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DBoone Just call me Dave Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 796	Pretty good start! I haven't used Linux yet but want to make a firewall box running Linux only. Anyway, I think I understood it pretty well. My two suggestions/comments are: 1. Page 6 Bootloaders - You say that you prefer grub but the numbered steps say to use LILO. Maybe you transitioned and I didn't catch it. 2. Will you be including any information on installing Linux as a stand alone OS as I intend to use? Or at least note the differences as to formatting and partitioning as a single boot Linux system? Thanks Lucas and keep up the good work! __________________ ASUS P5B-Deluxe, Intel E6600, 2 GB RAM, Sapphire X1950 Pro
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01-06-2005, 08:20 PM	#22
DBoone Just call me Dave Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 796	I've been paying very close attention to Froach's thread on CC. I have cable instead of DSL so I'm hoping not to have the same issues he has. __________________ ASUS P5B-Deluxe, Intel E6600, 2 GB RAM, Sapphire X1950 Pro
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01-07-2005, 09:48 AM	#24
PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	I have moved this thread temporarily to the Reviews Forum so that only members can see the draft of Lucas' guide. Once the guide is edited and reviewed, the final version will be posted in a new thread in the Reviews Forum, this thread will be put back in the Linux Forum, and the draft will be deleted from the thread. That should happen later today or tomorrow. I do need a volunteer who is experienced to assist Lucas with installing Linux on SCSI and Raid as he requested. I've not gone through that myself, so help would be appreciated. Please feel free to post any comments you may have on the draft in this thread. Also, remember that posts to the Review Forum requires moderation, but I will check the moderation queue every half hour or so, and approve any posts that members have made to this thread. So, if your post here doesn't appear immediately, it will when I approve the queue for this thread. Thanks, in advance, for any assistance and comments.
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01-07-2005, 11:10 AM	#25
barureddy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,414	I like the draft so far. A section you should include is what verious file systems people have to choose from and pros and cons of each.
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01-07-2005, 11:45 AM	#26
PCBruiser Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13,497	....bump.... for volunteers to help with the draft, particularly with installing Linux on Raid and SCSI setups.
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01-07-2005, 11:47 AM	#27
Lucas_Maximus Self Terminated Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,311	I shall write up version 2 within a few hours.
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01-07-2005, 12:08 PM	#28
barureddy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,414	What do you need help in specifically? Generally there are 3 different types of raid. 0,1,5 strip, redundant, and a mixter of both with more than 3 drives respectivelly. There is is built in linux software raid which each distro will have, which will do the raid for you. If you want hardware raid I would first scour the net for evidence of driver support. Many highpoint, adaptec, promise and lsi raid and scsi cards are supported within the linux kernel itself, but check to be sure. I don't think you are going for compiling your own kernel section yet so you don't need to be that much more specific. All distros will have support for scsi and raid, it is just how it is done. Obvious the big distros like mandrake, red hat, and suse will have farily easy ways to implement this and distros like gentoo and debian will need some work.
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01-07-2005, 01:51 PM	#29
Lucas_Maximus Self Terminated Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,311	I have never installed windows on any sort of SCSI or Raid setup and I am unsure on how to do it. My knowledge is only of installing on IDE and IDE SATA drives.
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