Going to AMD

insane_abx · 04-16-2001, 12:15 AM

I was hoping this day would never come, but AMDs offerings at the moment are better and more affordable, than Intel's.

I am still keeping my Celeron 633@1092 on my CUSL2 and building a whole new 1 Gig T-Bird AXIA system on an Asus A7V133. Should be able to get some really nice performance when I couple it with CAS 2 PC-166 RAM. I am hoping for at least 8.5 X ~160(1360), that would be sweet. But 9 X ~160(1440) would rule.

***Ozzie*** · 04-16-2001, 12:42 AM

Good luck with your new adventure - those AXIA's are really good cpu's and the chipsets are finally maturing.

There's a few here than run them as well as their CUSL2. I have 1.2 200 AXIA running aslo.

Hopefully the new forum (coming soon) will have a spot to discuss these other rigs.

ToBeMe · 04-16-2001, 12:47 AM

I've got two of each in my house right now!

They're both good and the price difference is closing!

The one thing I don't care for is "zealots" of either side!

***Ozzie*** · 04-16-2001, 01:09 AM

Absolutely right ToBeMe...

It IS human nature to think what you have is best and that you made a good buying decision.

I run three at my house - a BX, a VIA, and my CUSL2. They ALL have their good points.

I like to tinker - I'll always have one to play with...

Speedy-Evo · 04-16-2001, 03:48 AM

Are all AXIA's unlocked or only a few of them?

***Ozzie*** · 04-16-2001, 09:52 AM

From what I've been reading - most are unlocked.

Sir Skully · 04-16-2001, 10:03 AM

I also run BX, VIA, and cusl2. The VIA is on an Abit kt7a with a 1.2ghz Axia, soon to be water cooled hopefully.
Axia is oc'ed @1400 at this time.

owensdj · 04-16-2001, 10:18 AM

insane, I guess you haven't heard about all of the VIA chipset problems have been revealed recently? VIA 686B southbridge chips used on the Asus A7V133 are having some data corruption problems. If you go with an AMD processor, you pretty much have to use a VIA chipset.

Just a few days ago, I decided to upgrade my 667MHz P3 and mainboard. I picked the Asus CUSL2-C with a 1GHz Intel P3 over the Asus A7M266 with a 1.33GHz AMD Thunderbird. Even though the AMD processor would be somewhat faster, I just couldn't stand the thought of using a VIA chipset mainboard again. This is for a Win2K Pro machine, and I need stability.

Even though AMD only wants to make processors, they desperately need to make solid chipsets for their processors instead of depending on VIA. If AMD had a reliable chipset, I would have picked the 1.33MHz AMD processor.

Since you say you plan on overclocking, I guess that means stability is a lot less important than performance for you. Good luck with your A7V133.

[Edited by owensdj on 04-16-2001 at 10:22 AM]

Sir Skully · 04-16-2001, 10:47 AM

I have the VIA chip set, mine is stable, oc'ed and smooth. So far great!

ToBeMe · 04-16-2001, 12:10 PM

The 760's are looking pretty good.....in fact I was thinking about ordering one......now Via problems there!

Speedy-Evo · 04-16-2001, 01:24 PM

A7M266 doesn't use the VIA chipset... it uses the AMD 760 chipset, if I'm not mistaken... and actually, both the AMD 760 and the VIA KT133A or KT266 are really good chipsets

But of course... it depends on one's opinions

owensdj · 04-16-2001, 02:27 PM

Speedy-Evo, yes and no. The Asus A7M266 uses both the AMD 761 chipset and the VIA 686B Southbridge, so it's still vulnerable to that data corruption issue.

***Ozzie*** · 04-16-2001, 02:52 PM

This data corruption you guys are referring to is only SUPPOSED to happen with file transfers over 100mb.

One guy already has a fix for it and VIA is supposed to implement the fix in a week or so...

I wouldn't be terribly concerned about it. I haven't had the problem at all. But them I'm also using the Raid controller so I might not even be affected...

1ksw · 04-16-2001, 04:01 PM

I too run 3 different systems... a BX, CUSL2-C and an A7V133. All run great with no problems (except one of my 20GB IBM 75GXP Hard Drives just died -OEM - no warranty

).

The A7V133 has a 1.33Ghz AXIA 266fsb and it is allot faster than my pIII 866EB@981Mhz.

I havn't really overclocked it yet, but I have run it at 1400Mhz stable (need better cooling - just got my swiftech MC462 but havn't installed it yet - that sucker is HUGE!!)

Yes, there are issues with corrupting data on the VIA chipset, but those have already been resloved by a VXD driver that can be installed. And, as mentioned by Ozzie, the MB Manufacturers will have a BIOS fix soon.

anfo1369 · 04-20-2001, 01:02 PM

from http://www.viahardware.com

"George has released a new PCI Latency patch to address the PCI problems on VIA chipsets with the 686b south bridge. The most noticeable fixes are to the large file transfers and problems associated with the SB Live! This new version brings us up to 1.4 and if you have any of the following problems, I suggest you try this out:

Files copied from one IDE hard disk drive to another are corrupted
The computer stops ("freezes", "hangs", "locks up") when playing sounds, especially to a Creative SoundBlaster LIVE! card
The computer stops ("freezes", "hangs", "locks up"), or files are corrupted, when copying to or from an IDE DVD, CDROM, or CDRW drive
Sounds from a SoundBlaster LIVE! card are distorted when other PCI settings are adjusted in the computer
Before installing, its also suggested that users read the Read Me.

Posted on Friday, April 20, 2001 "

Link directly to file
http://www.viahardware.com/download/...tency_v014.zip

04-16-2001, 12:15 AM	#1
insane_abx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 39	I was hoping this day would never come, but AMDs offerings at the moment are better and more affordable, than Intel's. I am still keeping my Celeron 633@1092 on my CUSL2 and building a whole new 1 Gig T-Bird AXIA system on an Asus A7V133. Should be able to get some really nice performance when I couple it with CAS 2 PC-166 RAM. I am hoping for at least 8.5 X ~160(1360), that would be sweet. But 9 X ~160(1440) would rule.
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04-16-2001, 12:42 AM	#2
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,242	Good luck with your new adventure - those AXIA's are really good cpu's and the chipsets are finally maturing. There's a few here than run them as well as their CUSL2. I have 1.2 200 AXIA running aslo. Hopefully the new forum (coming soon) will have a spot to discuss these other rigs. __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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04-16-2001, 12:47 AM	#3
ToBeMe The Game Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 130	I've got two of each in my house right now! They're both good and the price difference is closing! The one thing I don't care for is "zealots" of either side! __________________ "I'm More Afraid Of Failing Than I Am Of Getting Hurt"
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04-16-2001, 01:09 AM	#4
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,242	Absolutely right ToBeMe... It IS human nature to think what you have is best and that you made a good buying decision. I run three at my house - a BX, a VIA, and my CUSL2. They ALL have their good points. I like to tinker - I'll always have one to play with... __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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04-16-2001, 03:48 AM	#5
Speedy-Evo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 3	Are all AXIA's unlocked or only a few of them?
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04-16-2001, 09:52 AM	#6
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,242	From what I've been reading - most are unlocked. __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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04-16-2001, 10:03 AM	#7
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 25,980	I also run BX, VIA, and cusl2. The VIA is on an Abit kt7a with a 1.2ghz Axia, soon to be water cooled hopefully. Axia is oc'ed @1400 at this time.
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04-16-2001, 10:18 AM	#8
owensdj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 31	insane, I guess you haven't heard about all of the VIA chipset problems have been revealed recently? VIA 686B southbridge chips used on the Asus A7V133 are having some data corruption problems. If you go with an AMD processor, you pretty much have to use a VIA chipset. Just a few days ago, I decided to upgrade my 667MHz P3 and mainboard. I picked the Asus CUSL2-C with a 1GHz Intel P3 over the Asus A7M266 with a 1.33GHz AMD Thunderbird. Even though the AMD processor would be somewhat faster, I just couldn't stand the thought of using a VIA chipset mainboard again. This is for a Win2K Pro machine, and I need stability. Even though AMD only wants to make processors, they desperately need to make solid chipsets for their processors instead of depending on VIA. If AMD had a reliable chipset, I would have picked the 1.33MHz AMD processor. Since you say you plan on overclocking, I guess that means stability is a lot less important than performance for you. Good luck with your A7V133. [Edited by owensdj on 04-16-2001 at 10:22 AM]
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04-16-2001, 10:47 AM	#9
Sir Skully ABX KNIGHT EXEMPLAR Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA-GA Posts: 25,980	I have the VIA chip set, mine is stable, oc'ed and smooth. So far great!
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04-16-2001, 12:10 PM	#10
ToBeMe The Game Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 130	The 760's are looking pretty good.....in fact I was thinking about ordering one......now Via problems there! __________________ "I'm More Afraid Of Failing Than I Am Of Getting Hurt"
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04-16-2001, 01:24 PM	#11
Speedy-Evo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 3	A7M266 doesn't use the VIA chipset... it uses the AMD 760 chipset, if I'm not mistaken... and actually, both the AMD 760 and the VIA KT133A or KT266 are really good chipsets But of course... it depends on one's opinions
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04-16-2001, 02:27 PM	#12
owensdj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 31	Speedy-Evo, yes and no. The Asus A7M266 uses both the AMD 761 chipset and the VIA 686B Southbridge, so it's still vulnerable to that data corruption issue.
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04-16-2001, 02:52 PM	#13
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,242	This data corruption you guys are referring to is only SUPPOSED to happen with file transfers over 100mb. One guy already has a fix for it and VIA is supposed to implement the fix in a week or so... I wouldn't be terribly concerned about it. I haven't had the problem at all. But them I'm also using the Raid controller so I might not even be affected... __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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04-16-2001, 04:01 PM	#14
1ksw Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24	I too run 3 different systems... a BX, CUSL2-C and an A7V133. All run great with no problems (except one of my 20GB IBM 75GXP Hard Drives just died -OEM - no warranty ). The A7V133 has a 1.33Ghz AXIA 266fsb and it is allot faster than my pIII 866EB@981Mhz. I havn't really overclocked it yet, but I have run it at 1400Mhz stable (need better cooling - just got my swiftech MC462 but havn't installed it yet - that sucker is HUGE!!) Yes, there are issues with corrupting data on the VIA chipset, but those have already been resloved by a VXD driver that can be installed. And, as mentioned by Ozzie, the MB Manufacturers will have a BIOS fix soon.
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04-20-2001, 01:02 PM	#15
anfo1369 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City, Mo. Posts: 122	from http://www.viahardware.com "George has released a new PCI Latency patch to address the PCI problems on VIA chipsets with the 686b south bridge. The most noticeable fixes are to the large file transfers and problems associated with the SB Live! This new version brings us up to 1.4 and if you have any of the following problems, I suggest you try this out: Files copied from one IDE hard disk drive to another are corrupted The computer stops ("freezes", "hangs", "locks up") when playing sounds, especially to a Creative SoundBlaster LIVE! card The computer stops ("freezes", "hangs", "locks up"), or files are corrupted, when copying to or from an IDE DVD, CDROM, or CDRW drive Sounds from a SoundBlaster LIVE! card are distorted when other PCI settings are adjusted in the computer Before installing, its also suggested that users read the Read Me. Posted on Friday, April 20, 2001 " Link directly to file http://www.viahardware.com/download/...tency_v014.zip __________________ It's not what you take when you leave this world behind you, It's what you leave behind you when you go.
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