Need info abaut tempretures!!!???

alfasedin · 06-19-2001, 12:53 PM

Dear friends,

I bought an A7V133-C Mobo and AthlonT1200/266
At ASUS Probe Monitor Summary the 3.3V at values section
showes 3.648 and tels "+3.3V out of treshold".
What is this? Important or not?
If I upgrade my bios from 1004 to 1005 by auto update
does all bios adjustments change or not?
When I restart after installing a software, or when I shut down
my comp. Iam getting the blue screen, when I hit enter its ok.
Why????
If the memory stick is at the 3rd row does it makes any
different do I have to put it to the 1rst row?
For now I have Apacer 256MB memory.I will buy another 256MB.
For now these are my questions any help will make me happy.

after your answers

Thanks

Mushkin Rules · 06-20-2001, 02:33 PM

What version of probe? The latest & improved on AMD system is 2.14.03

If I upgrade my bios from 1004 to 1005 by auto update
does all bios adjustments change or not? Well, before you flash a new bios, it is better to make everything to default setting, and do not overclock, just in case. With that in mind, the bios setting is changed and has to be re setting.
Remember, it is wise to boot from Pure DOS

If the memory stick is at the 3rd row does it makes any
different do I have to put it to the 1rst row? It is better to start from DIMM 1 actually

When I restart after installing a software, or when I shut down
my comp. Iam getting the blue screen, when I hit enter its ok.
Why???? What O/S + any important drivers are you installing?

alfasedin · 06-20-2001, 03:29 PM

Thanks for your reply

Till now I allways used Intel stufs, this time I wanted to try AMD
because of the price and performans advantage.
I'm happy. I love it.
I'll write my configuration:
Windows ME
ASUS A7V133-C Bios 1004
AthlonT 1200/266
(operating at 60C- ASUS Probe but 51C-Bios)
ASUS V7100/2V1D
SB 16 PCI
512 MB Apacer PC133 SDRAM
ACER CDROM 50X
ACER CDRW 10X8X32
Alcatel USB Speed Tuch ADSL Modem.
Maxtor 30 GB 7200rpm HD

VIA 4 in 1 V4.31
ASUS Probe V 2.14.1

I was going to assamble myself my Comp. to have it cheeper but I'm a new beginer for assembling and the price I have paid to the shop is same and I have to tell that after I read all the forums abaut VIA I was affraid too. They load the VIA drivers and the OS they showed me at the shop everything was fine. They restart several times it was OK. At home I load the Modem driver, My softwares and ASUS Probe.
After I install ASUS poobe and run it the 3.3V was showing 3.648 and I realy don't know what it is. Is it important or not ?
To day I went to the shop and they told me that may be
I'm getting the blue screen because of WinME and USB conflict
and they told me to bring the Comp. back and they will load my own Win98 SE. They told me Win98 SE is better for VIA Chipset.
For now I'm playing games, using my software, surfing at
Internet no problem. No crash.
I was affraid abaut VIA 686B but now

I won't overclock my AthlonT. May be after I read a lot of documents and ask professionals what to do.
Thank you for replaying me.........
I will look for the newest version of ASUS probe.

Mushkin Rules · 06-21-2001, 08:13 AM

Get the latest Probe 2.14.03 here:

http://www.asusboards.com/vbulletin/...?threadid=5288

Mushkin Rules · 06-21-2001, 01:43 PM

Here's good info on PSU:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/power-supply.htm

Basically, The 3.3- and 5-volts are typically used by digital circuits, while the 12-volt is used to run motors in disk drives and fans. So if you have unstable 3.3 & 5 volt in your PSU, and you still force it to run, worst come to worst your HDD will have bad sectors. But try to uninstall the older version of Probe and install the latest Probe 2.14.03 which is stable in detecting your Voltage & improve in monitoring your cpu temperature.

Here 's some fixes on Probe:

2.14.00 [1]Be compatible with ASUS iPanel on VIA series motherboard.

2.14.01 [1]Add alert volume adjustment.

2.14.02 [1]Calibrate the AMD CPU temperature of AS99127F-A.

2.14.03 [1]Solve the chassis fan of low rotation speed not detect problem.
[2]Fix VIA series chipset shutdown fail bug.

In addition, MBM 5.07B is also a good one.

alfasedin · 06-21-2001, 02:49 PM

OK my friends

I installed the latest version of ASUS Probe and the CPU temp
falled down from 60 to 50 Celcius. GREAT!!!
Except the 3.3V all the voltages are fine.
OK, I'm not expert like you, now what do I have to do to put the
3.3V down to the normal voltage from 3.648V.
Can you give me any advice.

Thanks

Mushkin Rules · 06-21-2001, 04:28 PM

My +3.3V in the Asus Probe 2.14.03 reads 3.424 and the +5V reads 4.972. Try this:
1) It also might be your Alcatel USB Speed Tuch ADSL Modem, although it has it's own power. Try turn it off and see the +3.3 V
2)Try to take out the power of one of your CDROM, either ACER CDROM 50X OR ACER CDRW 10X8X32 and see what the +3.3V reads.

Try no 1 first

alfasedin · 06-21-2001, 05:24 PM

Not to you Mushkin..........

I remove the usb modem nothing changed.
I removed CDRW power cable nothing changed.
I removed the CDROM power cable my mouse blocked but I was able to start ASUS Probe and nothing changed.
My case is AOPEN Full tower 300 Wat.

What shoul I do now

Mushkin Rules · 06-21-2001, 05:37 PM

Is it Probe voltage monitor reads stable at 3.648 or is it fluctuating? As long as it is not fluctuating, it's ok. Fluctuates +3 and +5 that can make HDD has bad sector

Tranced_abx · 06-21-2001, 09:33 PM

Hey southern neigboar..

Looking at you location I think your from the french speaking part, correct me if I'm wrong

The only good way to check if your voltages are out of spec is to go to your local handyman (Do-it-yourself-house-freaking-shop) and buy a (overhere we call it a: ) multimeter... (volt, ampere, ohm snooper)

Doesn't matter if it cost less then 200 Bfr ($4.22) it has the same accuracy of a 20000000 Bfr thing...

Find out what color is supposed to be what voltage (listed in the ASUS manual) and poke around at the back of the big connector on the MOBO, make sure the multimeter is in VOLT mode before starting.

Probing the voltages while the mobo is powered on is ok because the multimeter has a VERY high resistance in voltage mode and virtually doesn't draw any energy from the PSU

Master PooBaa · 06-22-2001, 12:01 AM

I personally think ASUS Probe is a pile of {BEEEP}!

ive got the latest version and it still has loads of bugs.
comparing the results to the bios and MotherBoard Monitor (MBM),
the core temp is out by 7 to 9 deg C! depending on load and overclocking level (i vary from 1200C to 1350)
board temp is ok.
3.3V reads as 3.5
5V reads as 4.8
12V reads as 12.1 to 12.4
the options screen on asus probe is STILL not displayed properly e.g. half the settings are off page!
and every few minutes one of the sensors drops out, spikes or falls to zero.
and ive watched things like the fan and it never stops depsite the probe falling to zero for up to 5 seconds.

what is up with asus probe????

Quote:

Originally posted by alfasedin
Not to you Mushkin..........

I remove the usb modem nothing changed.
I removed CDRW power cable nothing changed.
I removed the CDROM power cable my mouse blocked but I was able to start ASUS Probe and nothing changed.
My case is AOPEN Full tower 300 Wat.

What shoul I do now

***Ozzie*** · 06-22-2001, 12:20 AM

Hey Master PooBaa

Welcome to the forum...

That's quite a spread with the temp differences...

Hate to say it, but I fully agree with you about probe.
I know a lot of people here use it, but it has never been a good program.
I've always used MBM instead. It's not perfect, but I've relied on it for a long time - it works. On a number of different boards.

Mushkin Rules · 06-22-2001, 12:42 AM

Ya, compare your voltage monitoring with the latest MBM 5.07B first and see how tehy compare

Master PooBaa · 06-22-2001, 01:00 AM

YES!
thank god someone agrees.

ive been using MBM (latest version) and its got alot more nifty options,
namely temps in the task bar, or even better, always on top of the windows background.
useful when overclocking. very visible, but not in the way.

BYE BYE "anal Probe 2.4"

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozzie
Hey Master PooBaa

Welcome to the forum...

That's quite a spread with the temp differences...

Hate to say it, but I fully agree with you about probe.
I know a lot of people here use it, but it has never been a good program.
I've always used MBM instead. It's not perfect, but I've relied on it for a long time - it works. On a number of different boards.

***Ozzie*** · 06-22-2001, 01:06 AM

I'm curious - just where is Ozland?
Is that in Kansas?

06-19-2001, 12:53 PM	#1
alfasedin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	Need info abaut tempretures!!!??? Dear friends, I bought an A7V133-C Mobo and AthlonT1200/266 At ASUS Probe Monitor Summary the 3.3V at values section showes 3.648 and tels "+3.3V out of treshold". What is this? Important or not? If I upgrade my bios from 1004 to 1005 by auto update does all bios adjustments change or not? When I restart after installing a software, or when I shut down my comp. Iam getting the blue screen, when I hit enter its ok. Why???? If the memory stick is at the 3rd row does it makes any different do I have to put it to the 1rst row? For now I have Apacer 256MB memory.I will buy another 256MB. For now these are my questions any help will make me happy. after your answers Thanks __________________ AOPEN 300W Full Twr. A7V133-C Athlon 1200/266 512 MB SDRam SB 128 PCI Creative GF4 440 64MB DDR Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm LG 52X CDROM Hitachi DVD 12X ACER CDRW 20X10X32 Eicon Diva 2340 Multipc Gateway Sitecom Fast Ethernet card Creative Webcam II Plus USB Microec Scanmaker 4800 USB Lexmark Z43 USB CTX 19" VL950 Samsung Floppy Win XP Pro I'm happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........
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06-20-2001, 02:33 PM	#2
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	What version of probe? The latest & improved on AMD system is 2.14.03 If I upgrade my bios from 1004 to 1005 by auto update does all bios adjustments change or not? Well, before you flash a new bios, it is better to make everything to default setting, and do not overclock, just in case. With that in mind, the bios setting is changed and has to be re setting. Remember, it is wise to boot from Pure DOS If the memory stick is at the 3rd row does it makes any different do I have to put it to the 1rst row? It is better to start from DIMM 1 actually When I restart after installing a software, or when I shut down my comp. Iam getting the blue screen, when I hit enter its ok. Why???? What O/S + any important drivers are you installing? __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-20-2001, 03:29 PM	#3
alfasedin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	Thanks for your reply Till now I allways used Intel stufs, this time I wanted to try AMD because of the price and performans advantage. I'm happy. I love it. I'll write my configuration: Windows ME ASUS A7V133-C Bios 1004 AthlonT 1200/266 (operating at 60C- ASUS Probe but 51C-Bios) ASUS V7100/2V1D SB 16 PCI 512 MB Apacer PC133 SDRAM ACER CDROM 50X ACER CDRW 10X8X32 Alcatel USB Speed Tuch ADSL Modem. Maxtor 30 GB 7200rpm HD VIA 4 in 1 V4.31 ASUS Probe V 2.14.1 I was going to assamble myself my Comp. to have it cheeper but I'm a new beginer for assembling and the price I have paid to the shop is same and I have to tell that after I read all the forums abaut VIA I was affraid too. They load the VIA drivers and the OS they showed me at the shop everything was fine. They restart several times it was OK. At home I load the Modem driver, My softwares and ASUS Probe. After I install ASUS poobe and run it the 3.3V was showing 3.648 and I realy don't know what it is. Is it important or not ? To day I went to the shop and they told me that may be I'm getting the blue screen because of WinME and USB conflict and they told me to bring the Comp. back and they will load my own Win98 SE. They told me Win98 SE is better for VIA Chipset. For now I'm playing games, using my software, surfing at Internet no problem. No crash. I was affraid abaut VIA 686B but now I won't overclock my AthlonT. May be after I read a lot of documents and ask professionals what to do. Thank you for replaying me......... I will look for the newest version of ASUS probe. __________________ AOPEN 300W Full Twr. A7V133-C Athlon 1200/266 512 MB SDRam SB 128 PCI Creative GF4 440 64MB DDR Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm LG 52X CDROM Hitachi DVD 12X ACER CDRW 20X10X32 Eicon Diva 2340 Multipc Gateway Sitecom Fast Ethernet card Creative Webcam II Plus USB Microec Scanmaker 4800 USB Lexmark Z43 USB CTX 19" VL950 Samsung Floppy Win XP Pro I'm happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........ Last edited by alfasedin : 06-21-2001 at 06:35 AM.
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06-21-2001, 08:13 AM	#4
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Get the latest Probe 2.14.03 here: http://www.asusboards.com/vbulletin/...?threadid=5288 __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-21-2001, 01:43 PM	#5
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Here's good info on PSU: http://www.howstuffworks.com/power-supply.htm Basically, The 3.3- and 5-volts are typically used by digital circuits, while the 12-volt is used to run motors in disk drives and fans. So if you have unstable 3.3 & 5 volt in your PSU, and you still force it to run, worst come to worst your HDD will have bad sectors. But try to uninstall the older version of Probe and install the latest Probe 2.14.03 which is stable in detecting your Voltage & improve in monitoring your cpu temperature. Here 's some fixes on Probe: 2.14.00 [1]Be compatible with ASUS iPanel on VIA series motherboard. 2.14.01 [1]Add alert volume adjustment. 2.14.02 [1]Calibrate the AMD CPU temperature of AS99127F-A. 2.14.03 [1]Solve the chassis fan of low rotation speed not detect problem. [2]Fix VIA series chipset shutdown fail bug. In addition, MBM 5.07B is also a good one. __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-21-2001, 02:49 PM	#6
alfasedin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	OK my friends I installed the latest version of ASUS Probe and the CPU temp falled down from 60 to 50 Celcius. GREAT!!! Except the 3.3V all the voltages are fine. OK, I'm not expert like you, now what do I have to do to put the 3.3V down to the normal voltage from 3.648V. Can you give me any advice. Thanks __________________ AOPEN 300W Full Twr. A7V133-C Athlon 1200/266 512 MB SDRam SB 128 PCI Creative GF4 440 64MB DDR Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm LG 52X CDROM Hitachi DVD 12X ACER CDRW 20X10X32 Eicon Diva 2340 Multipc Gateway Sitecom Fast Ethernet card Creative Webcam II Plus USB Microec Scanmaker 4800 USB Lexmark Z43 USB CTX 19" VL950 Samsung Floppy Win XP Pro I'm happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........
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06-21-2001, 04:28 PM	#7
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	My +3.3V in the Asus Probe 2.14.03 reads 3.424 and the +5V reads 4.972. Try this: 1) It also might be your Alcatel USB Speed Tuch ADSL Modem, although it has it's own power. Try turn it off and see the +3.3 V 2)Try to take out the power of one of your CDROM, either ACER CDROM 50X OR ACER CDRW 10X8X32 and see what the +3.3V reads. Try no 1 first __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-21-2001, 05:24 PM	#8
alfasedin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	Not to you Mushkin.......... I remove the usb modem nothing changed. I removed CDRW power cable nothing changed. I removed the CDROM power cable my mouse blocked but I was able to start ASUS Probe and nothing changed. My case is AOPEN Full tower 300 Wat. What shoul I do now __________________ AOPEN 300W Full Twr. A7V133-C Athlon 1200/266 512 MB SDRam SB 128 PCI Creative GF4 440 64MB DDR Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm LG 52X CDROM Hitachi DVD 12X ACER CDRW 20X10X32 Eicon Diva 2340 Multipc Gateway Sitecom Fast Ethernet card Creative Webcam II Plus USB Microec Scanmaker 4800 USB Lexmark Z43 USB CTX 19" VL950 Samsung Floppy Win XP Pro I'm happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........ Last edited by alfasedin : 06-21-2001 at 05:33 PM.
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06-21-2001, 05:37 PM	#9
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Is it Probe voltage monitor reads stable at 3.648 or is it fluctuating? As long as it is not fluctuating, it's ok. Fluctuates +3 and +5 that can make HDD has bad sector __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-21-2001, 09:33 PM	#10
Tranced_abx Who, me? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: N51°34'01.5" E5°03'54.9" Posts: 1,631	Hey southern neigboar.. Looking at you location I think your from the french speaking part, correct me if I'm wrong The only good way to check if your voltages are out of spec is to go to your local handyman (Do-it-yourself-house-freaking-shop) and buy a (overhere we call it a: ) multimeter... (volt, ampere, ohm snooper) Doesn't matter if it cost less then 200 Bfr ($4.22) it has the same accuracy of a 20000000 Bfr thing... Find out what color is supposed to be what voltage (listed in the ASUS manual) and poke around at the back of the big connector on the MOBO, make sure the multimeter is in VOLT mode before starting. Probing the voltages while the mobo is powered on is ok because the multimeter has a VERY high resistance in voltage mode and virtually doesn't draw any energy from the PSU __________________ Laptop: P4 3.2/800 HT 1Gb DDR400 60gb 7200rpm Server: Asus S-Presso P4 2.8/800 HT 512MB DDR400 250GB SATA
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06-22-2001, 12:20 AM	#12
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,237	Hey Master PooBaa Welcome to the forum... That's quite a spread with the temp differences... Hate to say it, but I fully agree with you about probe. I know a lot of people here use it, but it has never been a good program. I've always used MBM instead. It's not perfect, but I've relied on it for a long time - it works. On a number of different boards. __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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06-22-2001, 12:42 AM	#13
Mushkin Rules Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mushkin Tropical Island Posts: 2,563	Ya, compare your voltage monitoring with the latest MBM 5.07B first and see how tehy compare __________________ Show Your Supports by Clicking This Advertisers...
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06-22-2001, 01:06 AM	#15
*Ozzie* missin' TQ Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 10,237	I'm curious - just where is Ozland? Is that in Kansas? __________________ Have you supported your forum today? Change is the only constant in life
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