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Old 08-02-2004, 04:11 PM   #1
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PCChips M825G?

First of all, DON'T LAUGH!

This has just recently been made available in Canada:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...5&promoid=1048

http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m825gv92c.asp

For some reason dirt-cheap PC hardware interests me. I don't know why, but it started when I purchased an ECS K7SOM+ for $109 CDN, which I have had zero problems with!

That mobo is no longer available here, but the PCChips one just arrived. It's on sale for $115 CDN, regular $125. It would outperform the ECS one, with an Athlon proc and an AGP slot.

I'm puzzled as to what the CPU operating at 1333 MHz with a 133 MHz FSB might be though. Looking here, page 23, it might be an Athlon XP 1500+. Or it could be an old original Athlon 1333, see here, page 19. But don't both those have 200 or 266 MHz FSBs? And since the chipset (VIA KM266) is listed as supporting only 200 or 266 MHz FSB I'm confused.

I've done a Google search and it seems these boards are much more common overseas but couldn't find any reviews. And yes, people do seem to have a whole lot of problems with them. But then again, people have also had a lot of problems with the ECS K7SOM+, which has worked flawlessly for me.

It sure is cheap. The quality is probably quite low.

What do you think of this board for a low-end machine?

It would kill any of the VIA C3-based ITX boards for performance at half the price, but doesn't match the C3 boards in the quality department.
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:14 PM   #2
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Dont buy it Fraoch!! Google crap mobo and read the review lol
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:20 PM   #3
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I have a friend the got one of those, but the CPU was an AMD Pro 3200+. Windows XP identifies it as AMD XP 2200+. He got it as a second machine, only for work and internet. With a Seagate 80GB 7200 RPM and 512MB DDR that machine was quite fast With 32MB (S3 VIA266) shared we were albe to run Colin Mcrae 2 at 1024x768
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:20 PM   #4
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Dont buy it Fraoch!! Google crap mobo and read the review lol
I've already Googled it...no reviews. All I could find was this and he was using the version without the CPU on board.

Interestingly there were several positive responses on that thread.
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:23 PM   #5
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You have to be really brave to remove the CPU as over here they are glued on on!
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:26 PM   #6
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You have to be really brave to remove the CPU as over here they are glued on on!
I suspect it's soldered in like my K7SOM+, i.e. no socket and thus impossible to replace. Unless you're a neurosurgeon by trade.

But ECS manufactures versions of the K7SOM+ with a socket. I'm guessing PCChips do too.
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:28 PM   #7
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They have the socket but glue the HSF on and you cant open the ZIF clip!
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:33 PM   #8
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I have a friend the got one of those, but the CPU was an AMD Pro 3200+. Windows XP identifies it as AMD XP 2200+. He got it as a second machine, only for work and internet. With a Seagate 80GB 7200 RPM and 512MB DDR that machine was quite fast With 32MB (S3 VIA266) shared we were albe to run Colin Mcrae 2 at 1024x768
I have no idea what they were smoking when they came up with the goofy numbering scheme they use to identify their processors. I can't read what sticker they put on the CPU fan on this board, but on my K7SOM+ it reads "Pro 1800+" and even says so in the BIOS and on boot-up. It's actually a Duron 1.2 though.
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:34 PM   #9
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They have the socket but glue the HSF on and you cant open the ZIF clip!
Really!

Any links?

Glue can, of course, always be undone...
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Really lol no links though the pissychips website is fubar lol never got much help from them...my only experience is falling for the job of upgrading the cpu's in them It calls for bravery indeed...as i remember the ecs version is the same story...lift the lid and have a look at yours matey...Unless they've mended their ways
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Really lol no links though the pissychips website is fubar lol never got much help from them...my only experience is falling for the job of upgrading the cpu's in them It calls for bravery indeed...as i remember the ecs version is the same story...lift the lid and have a look at yours matey...Unless they've mended their ways
Mine's definitely soldered in. No socket in there...

Hmm I'd think all you'd need is to cut the glue out using an X-Acto knife. Of course that invalidates the warranty, but when it's that cheap, no big deal.

You're swimming against the current there, kipper! These boards are designed to have the CPUs permanently installed. These companies would in no way support you in replacing the CPUs in these.

In terms of customer service, an e-mail to ECS about wake-on-LAN was answered in less than 24 hours!
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