My new game machine... - Page 12

TQ · 05-17-2008, 01:55 PM

So, seeing as how the TJ Max figure is 85c and my core distance readings are 46/46 (along with temps at 39c/39c) we're looking pretty good.

ctal · 05-17-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ

So, seeing as how the TJ Max figure is 85c and my core distance readings are 46/46 (along with temps at 39c/39c) we're looking pretty good.

Yes, and as I said to Hans it would probably read considerably lower than that if you did the calibration procedure described in the Realtemp writeup.

-- Al

TQ · 05-17-2008, 02:13 PM

Copy that.
I'll be tinkering quite a bit with my new system. I'm usually a set-it-and-forget-it user (Intel-built boards) but it would be a shame to waste all those BIOS options those Taiwanese Poindexter's put in there.

TQ · 05-17-2008, 02:16 PM

Did you see this geek fest?
Bring the credit card...

hansje · 05-17-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ctal

Hans -- I looked at your overclock thread. It looks like you wound up running your DDR2-667 at an actual rate of DDR2-1167, with an fsb rate (non-quad pumped definition) of 389MHz, and a memory clock-to-fsb clock ratio of 1.5. I'm surprised, even with loosened timings and a voltage increase, that your memory could run at such a fast clock rate.

Assuming a target overclock for your E8500 of 4.2gHz, your fsb would be 4.2/9.5 = 442MHz. For a 1:1 memory-to-fsb clock ratio, that would mean the memory would be running at 442 x 2 = DDR2-884. If your bios provides a 5:4 memory-to-fsb ratio (= 4:5 fsb-to-memory), that would be just about perfect for DDR2-1066 (884 x 5/4 = 1105).

Regards,

-- Al

Thanks for your time...looks interesting, see what I can do

Orthos no errors for an hour...with 4.2 but I need 1.43 Vcore BIOS to run this, will try lowering the Vcore.

Hans

hansje · 05-17-2008, 02:28 PM

Forgot...without the calibration procedure my TEMPS are MAX >> 66C

After one hour of ORTHOS

Hans.

ctal · 05-17-2008, 03:02 PM

The calibration procedure probably won't affect the 66degC too much. It mainly affects idle temps, or load temps that are lower (as a result of lower voltage or a lower overclock). Lowering the voltage should bring that down significantly.

Regards,
-- Al

hansje · 05-17-2008, 03:09 PM

I have the UNLINKED bios settings...and 5:4 but only FSB-MEM

Hans

hansje · 05-17-2008, 03:14 PM

How about that..found 4:5 FSB-MEM by accident

CPU-z :

4200
Multi >> X9
466.7
1866.8

Memory >> 583.5

5-5-5-15-2T

Hans

ctal · 05-17-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansje

How about that..found 4:5 FSB-MEM by accident

CPU-z :

4200
Multi >> X9
466.7
1866.8

Memory >> 583.5

5-5-5-15-2T

Hans

That's really good if it stays stable under load, and is also stable with Memtest86+.

Two comments, however:

-- The E8500 has a multiplier of 9.5, not 9 (under load, so that Speedstep is out of the picture). The E8400 has a multiplier of 9.

-- Memory at 583.5 corresponds to DDR2-1167. I'm very surprised that your DDR2-667 can do that, even with the relaxed timings. If you are planning to get new memory, as I suggested earlier I would go with a DDR2-1066 or similar, preferably one that overclocks well (see the user comments at NewEgg on whichever memories you are considering, where people often provide comments on the overclocks they achieved).

-- Al

hansje · 05-17-2008, 03:36 PM

So I have to use 9.5 ??

Sometimes its changing by itself it seems, BIOS...9 and the 9.5 !!!!

Hansje

ctal · 05-17-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansje

So I have to use 9.5 ??

Sometimes its changing by itself it seems, BIOS...9 and the 9.5 !!!!

Hansje

I wouldn't say that you have to, but if you don't you are losing some of your potential overclock. Are you using the latest CPU-Z? Earlier versions might not read it correctly. Is your bios up to date, considering that the E8xxx's were only introduced in January?

-- Al

hansje · 05-17-2008, 03:46 PM

Yes the latest BIOS and latest CPU-z.

Hansje

ctal · 05-17-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansje

Yes the latest BIOS and latest CPU-z.

Hansje

Well, maybe if it is sometimes indicating 9.5, it's ok. I don't know why it would fluctuate, though. Maybe it's a quirk of cpu-z when dealing with fractional multipliers.

Regards,
-- Al

hansje · 05-17-2008, 03:52 PM

When I try 4.2/9.5...memory 1:1 no problem.

mem 884 ..this is with the LINKED and SYNCED BIOS setting.

But with UNLINKED...I can't get my memory right

Most case I have to reset my BIOS again.

Hans

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05-17-2008, 02:13 PM	#168
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: My new game machine... Copy that. I'll be tinkering quite a bit with my new system. I'm usually a set-it-and-forget-it user (Intel-built boards) but it would be a shame to waste all those BIOS options those Taiwanese Poindexter's put in there. __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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05-17-2008, 02:16 PM	#169
TQ You gonna throw that? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,442	Re: My new game machine... Did you see this geek fest? Bring the credit card... __________________ Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me - Psalm 51:10 My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am... Daywalker Studio: Software: Adobe Audition 3.0/Pro Tools LE 7.4/Acid Pro 6.0/Multiple VST, DirectX and RTAS plugins/Kontakt 3 Sampler/Windows XP Professional PC Hardware: D975XBX2-504/E6600/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-6400/eVGA 800GTX/HP f1905 19" flat panel/Echo Audio Gina24 Sound Card/2 Maxtor 6B300SO's/1 Maxtor STM500AS/1 Western Digital WD2500JD/PleXwriter Premium/Plextor 716A/Samsung LightScribe DVD burner/Logitech Revolution MX/Antec P-180b/PPC&C Silencer 610/Zalman CNPS9500 HSF Recording Hardware: Mbox 2 Factory Pro/Mackie SR24.4VLZ Pro Console/M-Audio Axiom 25 MIDI Controller/Audio-Technica 4033a microphone/Symetrix 528E/PreSonus Eureka/Mackie MR8 active monitors Game Machine: Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6/E8400/4x2GB Mushkin XP2-8500/BFG GTX280/HP f2105 21" flat panel/Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro/Maxtor 6H500F0/Maxtor STM3320/Western Digital WD4000KD/Plextor 760A/Toshiba DVD-ROM/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec P-180/PPC&C Silencer 610/Ideazon Merc Stealth keyboard/Vista Business64 SP1
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05-17-2008, 02:28 PM	#171
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... Forgot...without the calibration procedure my TEMPS are MAX >> 66C After one hour of ORTHOS Hans. __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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05-17-2008, 03:02 PM	#172
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,235	Re: My new game machine... The calibration procedure probably won't affect the 66degC too much. It mainly affects idle temps, or load temps that are lower (as a result of lower voltage or a lower overclock). Lowering the voltage should bring that down significantly. Regards, -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States.
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05-17-2008, 03:09 PM	#173
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... I have the UNLINKED bios settings...and 5:4 but only FSB-MEM Hans __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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05-17-2008, 03:14 PM	#174
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... How about that..found 4:5 FSB-MEM by accident CPU-z : 4200 Multi >> X9 466.7 1866.8 Memory >> 583.5 5-5-5-15-2T Hans __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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05-17-2008, 03:36 PM	#176
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... So I have to use 9.5 ?? Sometimes its changing by itself it seems, BIOS...9 and the 9.5 !!!! Hansje __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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05-17-2008, 03:46 PM	#178
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... Yes the latest BIOS and latest CPU-z. Hansje __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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05-17-2008, 03:52 PM	#180
hansje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 1,932	Re: My new game machine... When I try 4.2/9.5...memory 1:1 no problem. mem 884 ..this is with the LINKED and SYNCED BIOS setting. But with UNLINKED...I can't get my memory right Most case I have to reset my BIOS again. Hans __________________ Internet/System: AMD Athlon XP 1800+--Soltek SL-75DRV5--Samsung PC2700 2x256--Nvidia Geforce Ti 4400(Leadtek)--Creative SB/LIVE--Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM--Samsung Syncmaster 152T--Windows XP Home Edition Game/System: Processor Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 @ 4.0 - EVGA nForce 680i (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 - Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (4-4-4-12-1T) - Asus TOP 260GTX - Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer - Seagate 200 GB, Seagate 80GB ViewSonic VX912 - Enermax 600 Watt - Windows XP Home Edition. Don't forget my Website(Race-Game-Links-Guides)....and lots of fun !!!!! http://www.hallo.ismooi.nl/
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