new system build - Page 7

raging bull · 03-05-2008, 12:01 AM

i'd look at these:

Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-A17B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-A16B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

*polonyc2* · 03-05-2008, 01:31 PM

I took apart my system last night and re-built it...this time I placed the power supply on the top of the case instead of at the bottom...seemed to create more room this way and I was able to do a better job of wiring with the PSU on top

I also wanted to re-apply my Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro after noticing some higher then normal idle temps on my E8400...used rubbing alcohol to clean the CPU and re-applied the CPU cooler...I had removed the CPU a few times during my initial install and each time I did not re-apply a new coating of thermal paste so I wanted to ensure optimal heat transfer

one of the clips on my Freezer 7 Pro was also a bit damaged so I bought a new Freezer 7 Pro to put on as well

*polonyc2* · 03-11-2008, 01:31 AM

more good things to say about the Lian Li PC-A70B...the front 2 fans have removable dust filters on them...taking off the front part of the case was the easiest I have ever encountered...the power button and fan wires are not connected to the front piece and are connected to the main body of the case so no worries about wires getting in the way...front piece snaps off very easily...makes cleaning the filters a snap

my old NZXT Lexa case also had removable front fan filters but getting the front piece off was a pain in the ***...felt like it was going to break every time plus all the wires were attached and it made it so difficult that I barely ever cleaned the filters

the Lian Li case also has vented PCI slots which makes the cooling even better

I gotta take some pics soon once I get my hands on a digital camera

Mankal3 · 03-13-2008, 08:39 AM

Hows the Freezer 7 pro, in terms of cooling for you?

*polonyc2* · 03-16-2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mankal3

Hows the Freezer 7 pro, in terms of cooling for you?

excellent so far...running at everything at stock and load temps never went past 54C...even when running Prime95 small fft, Blend tests, OCCT and heavy Crysis gaming sessions the temps literally never went past 54C...I'm finding it hard to believe myself as I heard the E8400 temp monitoring might not be so accurate as people are reporting wide fluctuations...but if the temps are accurate then the cooler is fine

one thing I noticed is that the idle CPU temps seem to be higher then normal but under load they go up by only 5 -6 degrees max

don't know how good this cooler would be if you are planning on doing heavy overclocking but for stock to medium overclocks then you can't beat the price/performance ratio

also have to mention that I love this G.Skill memory...am running it at 4-4-4-12 at 1.95V with no problems...system defaulted to 5-5-5-15 but manually changed the timings and experienced no issues at all

Mankal3 · 03-16-2008, 08:25 AM

Thanks Polonyc2, I was thinking of the Freezer 7 also, I dont want to put a heavy cooler (almost 1 KG) like the zalman or tuniq, but want something that works well.

*polonyc2* · 03-16-2008, 02:29 PM

"one thing I noticed is that the stock CPU temps seem to be higher then normal but under load they go up by only 5 -6 degrees max"

sorry I meant to say idle CPU temps are higher then normal

*polonyc2* · 03-17-2008, 07:10 PM

my Western Digital drive started making this screeching noise every so often so I did an RMA...the model # of my drive was WD5000AAKS

WD Caviar SE16 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000AAKS )

they were out of stock of that drive so they sent me back model # WD5001ABYS

WD RE2 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5001ABYS )

seems like a better drive...similar specs but since it's an Enterprise drive it's rated for higher use plus the warranty is longer (5 years compared to 3 years for the desktop drive)

the drive got excellent reviews as well

SATA in the Enterprise - A 500 GB Drive Roundup | StorageReview.com

fvbounty · 03-17-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

my Western Digital drive started making this screeching noise every so often so I did an RMA...the model # of my drive was WD5000AAKS

WD Caviar SE16 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000AAKS )

they were out of stock of that drive so they sent me back model # WD5001ABYS

WD RE2 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5001ABYS )

seems like a better drive...similar specs but since it's an Enterprise drive it's rated for higher use plus the warranty is longer (5 years compared to 3 years for the desktop drive)

the drive got excellent reviews as well

SATA in the Enterprise - A 500 GB Drive Roundup | StorageReview.com

I'm using the 320 gig verison, and love it, very quiet, if my raptor ever goes down I think I'll just get another 320!

*polonyc2* · 03-17-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvbounty

I'm using the 320 gig verison, and love it, very quiet, if my raptor ever goes down I think I'll just get another 320!

you're currently using the 320GB Enterprise drive?

apparently the model # has changed slightly to reflect a newer drive...the older drives were WD3200ABYS and the new ones use WD3201ABYS...loooks like they added a '1' to the model number...I'm sure performance is about the same though

also looks like your drive uses 4 platters while the newer ones use 3 platters

traveler · 03-17-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

my Western Digital drive started making this screeching noise every so often so I did an RMA...the model # of my drive was WD5000AAKS

WD Caviar SE16 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000AAKS )

they were out of stock of that drive so they sent me back model # WD5001ABYS

WD RE2 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5001ABYS )

seems like a better drive...similar specs but since it's an Enterprise drive it's rated for higher use plus the warranty is longer (5 years compared to 3 years for the desktop drive)

the drive got excellent reviews as well

SATA in the Enterprise - A 500 GB Drive Roundup | StorageReview.com

Hey !!!!!!!

That's what I run !!!!! The WD 500 RE2 drives.

Here's the thread on the RE2 drives.

Does anyone have the WD RE2 TLER enable/disable utility?

fvbounty · 03-17-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

you're currently using the 320GB Enterprise drive?

apparently the model # has changed slightly to reflect a newer drive...the older drives were WD3200ABYS and the new ones use WD3201ABYS...loooks like they added a '1' to the model number...I'm sure performance is about the same though

also looks like your drive uses 4 platters while the newer ones use 3 platters

Here's the one I have WD RE 3200YS, I know it has the 5 year warrenty, I didn't even know they had changed but I've had my 150 gig raptor and the 320 gig for4 months now!

CDW Product Overview: WD RE WD3200YS - hard drive - 320 GB - SATA-300

*polonyc2* · 03-25-2008, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polonyc2

my Western Digital drive started making this screeching noise every so often so I did an RMA...the model # of my drive was WD5000AAKS

WD Caviar SE16 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000AAKS )

they were out of stock of that drive so they sent me back model # WD5001ABYS

WD RE2 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5001ABYS )

seems like a better drive...similar specs but since it's an Enterprise drive it's rated for higher use plus the warranty is longer (5 years compared to 3 years for the desktop drive)

the drive I got back from RMA is definitely a better drive...another reason why Western Digital is the best

noise levels and heat output are the same low levels as the WD5000AAKS plus my new WD5001ABYS uses PMR (perpendicular magnetic recording) which improves performance...and along with it being an Enterprise drive with the 5 year warranty and rated for longer use, it's a nice upgrade over my previous desktop Caviar SE16 drive

*polonyc2* · 05-07-2008, 05:41 PM

this Lian Li PC-A70B is really the best case I've ever owned...love it...yesterday I saw some dust build up on the outside of my case so I decided to clean the front fans as they both come with dust filters on it...couldn't have been easier!!

the front panel snaps off so easily it was almost too simple...the case comes with dual front fans and both holders and filters came off with a simple twist...I was expecting it to be a pain in the ### to remove the filters based on previous cases I owned (NZXT Lexa case) but it was too easy...my NZXT case was murder to remove the front panel as the front case wires were attached to it and it was a nightmare to remove...with the Lian Li the wires aren't attached to the front panel so everything came off in a snap

washed the filters, dried them using my AC and put them back in within 10 minutes...Lian Li is the best!!

ctal · 05-07-2008, 05:49 PM

My sentiments exactly, on my new build that has the same case except in silver and with a window. Everything about it simply seems perfect (for those who can accommodate its size), with the one very very minor exception that the power switch feels a little flimsy.

-- Al

03-05-2008, 12:01 AM	#91
raging bull Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north carolina Posts: 289	Re: new system build i'd look at these: Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-A17B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-A16B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail __________________ P5KdeluxeWiFi/E6750(2.66-NoOC)C2D/2X1G-Mushkin eXtremePerformanceDDR2-1066(PC2-8500)/Two320GB SeagateBarracuda7200.10s/Lite-On20X/Pioneer18X/AsusX1950Pro-256/X-Fi XtremeGamer/Corsair520HX/LianLiA16B/VistaBusiness P4P800e/2.4c@3.1(1.79v);2x1G-OCZ5001024ELGEGXT(3-4-3-8-1T) WD36/WD200;Memorex16x/Lite-on52x;eVGA6800GS256AGP; SBAudigy2;Enermax 465 T61/C2D-T7300(2.0G)/2GB-PC2-5300/DDR2-667/nVidia Quadro NVS140/100GB-HD-7200rpm/DVD-recordable 8X-DL/Bluetooth/VistaBusiness
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03-05-2008, 01:31 PM	#92
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,454	I took apart my system last night and re-built it...this time I placed the power supply on the top of the case instead of at the bottom...seemed to create more room this way and I was able to do a better job of wiring with the PSU on top I also wanted to re-apply my Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro after noticing some higher then normal idle temps on my E8400...used rubbing alcohol to clean the CPU and re-applied the CPU cooler...I had removed the CPU a few times during my initial install and each time I did not re-apply a new coating of thermal paste so I wanted to ensure optimal heat transfer one of the clips on my Freezer 7 Pro was also a bit damaged so I bought a new Freezer 7 Pro to put on as well __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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03-11-2008, 01:31 AM	#93
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,454	more good things to say about the Lian Li PC-A70B...the front 2 fans have removable dust filters on them...taking off the front part of the case was the easiest I have ever encountered...the power button and fan wires are not connected to the front piece and are connected to the main body of the case so no worries about wires getting in the way...front piece snaps off very easily...makes cleaning the filters a snap my old NZXT Lexa case also had removable front fan filters but getting the front piece off was a pain in the *...felt like it was going to break every time plus all the wires were attached and it made it so difficult that I barely ever cleaned the filters the Lian Li case also has vented PCI slots which makes the cooling even better I gotta take some pics soon once I get my hands on a digital camera __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) * EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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03-13-2008, 08:39 AM	#94
Mankal3 Here's Looking at You Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 787	Re: new system build Hows the Freezer 7 pro, in terms of cooling for you? __________________ Antec PlusView 1000AMG Case Antec TrueBlue 480 PSU-ASUS P4P800-D BIOS is still 1005-Intel P4 3.0@ 3.25 (1:1)-Zalman CNPS7000Al-Cu-Mushkin PC3500 RAM 1GB Level II-PNY 6800GT-Lite-on DVD burner-ASUS 52X48X52 CD-RW-Maxtor 7200rpm 8MB 80GB X2-WinXP SP2 AND WAITING FOR NEHALEM to upgrade
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03-16-2008, 08:25 AM	#96
Mankal3 Here's Looking at You Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 787	Re: new system build Thanks Polonyc2, I was thinking of the Freezer 7 also, I dont want to put a heavy cooler (almost 1 KG) like the zalman or tuniq, but want something that works well. __________________ Antec PlusView 1000AMG Case Antec TrueBlue 480 PSU-ASUS P4P800-D BIOS is still 1005-Intel P4 3.0@ 3.25 (1:1)-Zalman CNPS7000Al-Cu-Mushkin PC3500 RAM 1GB Level II-PNY 6800GT-Lite-on DVD burner-ASUS 52X48X52 CD-RW-Maxtor 7200rpm 8MB 80GB X2-WinXP SP2 AND WAITING FOR NEHALEM to upgrade
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03-16-2008, 02:29 PM	#97
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,454	"one thing I noticed is that the stock CPU temps seem to be higher then normal but under load they go up by only 5 -6 degrees max" sorry I meant to say idle CPU temps are higher then normal __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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03-17-2008, 07:10 PM	#98
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,454	my Western Digital drive started making this screeching noise every so often so I did an RMA...the model # of my drive was WD5000AAKS WD Caviar SE16 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5000AAKS ) they were out of stock of that drive so they sent me back model # WD5001ABYS WD RE2 500 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD5001ABYS ) seems like a better drive...similar specs but since it's an Enterprise drive it's rated for higher use plus the warranty is longer (5 years compared to 3 years for the desktop drive) the drive got excellent reviews as well SATA in the Enterprise - A 500 GB Drive Roundup \| StorageReview.com __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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05-07-2008, 05:41 PM	#104
polonyc2 Helter Skelter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 7,454	this Lian Li PC-A70B is really the best case I've ever owned...love it...yesterday I saw some dust build up on the outside of my case so I decided to clean the front fans as they both come with dust filters on it...couldn't have been easier!! the front panel snaps off so easily it was almost too simple...the case comes with dual front fans and both holders and filters came off with a simple twist...I was expecting it to be a pain in the ### to remove the filters based on previous cases I owned (NZXT Lexa case) but it was too easy...my NZXT case was murder to remove the front panel as the front case wires were attached to it and it was a nightmare to remove...with the Lian Li the wires aren't attached to the front panel so everything came off in a snap washed the filters, dried them using my AC and put them back in within 10 minutes...Lian Li is the best!! __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula (X38) *** EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB Intel E8400 * Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro G.Skill 4 GB (2 X 2 GB) DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 * Western Digital RE2 500 GB WD5001ABYS Lian Li PC-A70B (black) * Corsair HX620 AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 * Creative Inspire P5800 5.1 speakers Lite-On DVD-RW w/LightScribe LH-20A1L-06 * Sony GDM-F520 21' CRT monitor (19.8' viewable) Vista Business 64-bit w/SP1 * standard 3.5" floppy drive Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 *** Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 (Black)
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05-07-2008, 05:49 PM	#105
ctal Eschews Obfuscation Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 1,314	Re: new system build My sentiments exactly, on my new build that has the same case except in silver and with a window. Everything about it simply seems perfect (for those who can accommodate its size), with the one very very minor exception that the power switch feels a little flimsy. -- Al __________________ "I didn't say I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear." -- George Romney, in 1968, while campaigning for the Republican nomination for President of the United States.
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